Don't go for second best, baby. Put your ILM ARTIST POLL #31: MADONNA to the test.

but i will say, the vagueness is one of the greatest things about "live to tell." i remember getting obsessed with it as a kid, with what it could possibly be about.

I actually agree a bit with you DJP in that I think "Vogue" is the sound of her trying on a genre and making it look couture, whereas "Deeper and Deeper" finds her appropriately unsettled. She's not in the driver's seat in the latter, and it terrifies her.

lex OTM

+ it works in the narrative of the song - she's not just listened to her mothers advice and gone headfirst into love, but become her own mother, and instead of instructing how to sing like her mother did ("when you know the notes to sing you can sing most anything" which is in ITSELF a callback reference obv, they parallel) now she's instructing herself how to DANCE, which is so immesurabley greater

man there are so many callbacks in the madonna discography

how much would it enrage ppl if I let slip that I like "Fever" a ton more than "Deeper and Deeper"

that's what Erotica does, right? She records a genre record, choosing points of view with which she's also unfamiliar.

You see, that's why the "Beautiful Stranger" video is so good--she's not in the driver's seat, and it terrifies her.

hahahahahahahahaha

Can you post the last two together JF? I need my dinner!

lol @ clemenza

lol bravo

how much would it enrage ppl if I let slip that I like "Fever" a ton more than "Deeper and Deeper"

Not at all.

those defending D&D have yet to explain how it deserves top 3. beautiful stranger sounds like sub-britney IMO

LOL british cars

"fever" is great! kinda surprised it didn't place

i'm one of the eight who had 'deeper and deeper' #1, sometimes my fave piece of pop music ever. had 'borderline' number two - there's a reason that was the breakthrough.

I appreciate that the overarching sound of the Erotica album is just something that will never jibe with my personal taste, but wouldn't supporters of that record even admit that, in 1992, she'd crawled up her own ass and was indulging in immense Madonna-ness to the point of alienation of her typical chart pop fans? I guess she'd earned that right, but there's really just no entry into it for me (though I did come to appreciate "Words" more in the past couple weeks). "Bad Girl" and "Rain" I kind of leave out of this equation, because they're more traditional pop ballad styles.

those defending D&D have yet to explain how it deserves top 3

more people voted for it?

i mean okay i guess we didn't need more erotica

the middle eight of "deeper and deeper" really is the most perfectly told story within the song - you have no idea where she's going with it, it's so finely paced and each line only moves it forward a tiny bit, it's like when you're lost and drunk in an unfamiliar club and you're pushing your way through the bodies, and then "AND I'M NEVER GONNA HIDE IT AGAIN" is the moment when you just fall into the dancefloor, the place you're meant to be

then, the flamenco drop

that actually definitely is my favourite moment in all of pop music ever

wouldn't supporters of that record even admit that, in 1992, she'd crawled up her own ass and was indulging in immense Madonna-ness to the point of alienation of her typical chart pop fans?

Nah. It's her Low.

Because it's fucking amazing, xps

beautiful stranger sounds like "the joy of cola"

but wouldn't supporters of that record even admit that, in 1992, she'd crawled up her own ass and was indulging in immense Madonna-ness

no

the title track maybe

"fever" should come at -20 or something, in accordance with its temperature - the iciest thing ever

lex I'll give you $10 if you change your dn to flamenco drop

r&b flamenco drop

doesn't tim finney have a long otm post about deeper and deeper somewhere on ilm that we can drop on the haters and be done with this already

wouldn't supporters of that record even admit that, in 1992, she'd crawled up her own ass and was indulging in immense Madonna-ness to the point of alienation of her typical chart pop fans?

erotica was chart pop! house beats were all over the charts in the early 90s, my first ever music purchase was a 40-strong compilation of them, and those beats were my first mainstream chart love

does anyone else's copy of the Like A Prayer vinyl album still smell of Patchouli? mine *just about* does. pretty amazing since it was a release-day purchase.

lex I'll give you $10 if you change your dn to flamenco drop

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i need no encouragement

if Erotica had come packaged with a smell it would be of sweat-moist dancefloor dick

lex otm, at any rate. the sheer brassy desperation of the delivery of "mama couldn't be aaaaaaaaaaaaaaall wrooooooooooong" the first time the chorus comes around still makes me thrill. what a great song.

uh, "daddy" of course. o_O at me.

it basically sounds like Shep Pettibone stuck a microphone up his ass and then Madonna sang some lyrics into it
DJP, that's the second time you made me LOL tonight about something poopy. The first time was something about a wet fart I believe.

Re: 'Beautiful Stranger': the dananadanana hook > the high acid-bubbly synth in the bridge > the low acid-bubbly synth in the verses >>>> the whole of Erotica.

http://i.imgur.com/I6rEpVP.jpg

02. "OPEN YOUR HEART" from True Blue (1986) [44 votes, 1,167 points, 2 first place votes]

http://i.imgur.com/iMONiew.jpg

01. "INTO THE GROOVE" from the single Into the Groove (1985) [48 votes, 1,330 points, 6 first place votes]

righteous

hurrah!

the dananadanana hook

ripped off from Love's "She Comes In Colors."

Still, one of my favorite Madonna songs.

i like #3 better than #2 better than #1 but still #1 feels most right of all

Great ending--if "Holiday" wasn't going to be there, that's the next best 1-2.

Can we talk about how the first couple minute of the 12" extended version of "Open Your Heart" is almost Balearic? Yum.

can we talk about my poor subject-verb agreement

i am calling all of you Erotica haters "Bitch" to the sound of breaking glass in my head

both too low!

most of the Erotica singles drastically underperformed in the US pop charts; "Erotica" (3) and "Deeper and Deeper" (7) were the only ones to crack the top ten, "Rain" stalled at 14 and "Bad Girl" barely scraped into the charts at 36, while "Fever" and "Bye Bye Baby" didn't chart at all

so, while there was definitely stuff in the pop charts mining this territory, most people over here were turning towards someone else besides Madonna for it

very righteous and well-deserved 1-2

"Open Your Heart" my #1.

Perfect 1-2!

"into the groove" is the greatest song of all time.

Into the Groove was my #1 and Open Your Heart was #7, though it could easily have been higher.