Don't go for second best, baby. Put your ILM ARTIST POLL #31: MADONNA to the test.

I will say that for me Deeper And Deeper is a whole new song when you dance to it, rather than just actively listening to it. I did vote for it, just not as high as some of you crazy mf'ers.

and the callback to "Vogue" is just lazy

omg no it's the perfect, most exultatory climax, she's almost shouting those words out, like she's only just reached a new level of understanding of what they mean and more than that she's also realised how vital it is to believe in them

Shep wrong for "Deeper and Deeper," wrong for America!

So tempted to troll some of those "Vogue"/"Deeper and Deeper" hatred by tossing out a casual accusation of homophobia.

I like Vogue!

I'm only 50% nohomo I guess, since I love Vogue and have zero time for Deeper.

Vogue feels to me like she couldn't do a house record without stiffly and self-consciously tying it to a dancefloor trend whereas Deeper & Deeper is just a great vocal house record with an intuitive feel for the genre - the way lines like "round and round" and "deeper and deeper" play with the repetition of the groove.

okay sure (I disagree but whatever, I see and get the point), but all of the instrumentation on "Vogue" sounds like it's living in the same universe and working together and "Deeper and Deeper" sounds like everything has its own timbre specifically engineered to make it sound like none of the parts actually belong together, including the reverb on Madonna's voice

lex OTM in every respect

you motherfuckers thinking bemusedly about 'deeper and deeper' need to step the fuck off imo.

balls otm

lots of otm'ing the EDMs

Haven't heard "Deeper in Deeper" in ages, just looked at the video--8-tracks! Still sounds kind of ordinary to me; much, much prefer "Vogue."

but i will say, the vagueness is one of the greatest things about "live to tell." i remember getting obsessed with it as a kid, with what it could possibly be about.

I actually agree a bit with you DJP in that I think "Vogue" is the sound of her trying on a genre and making it look couture, whereas "Deeper and Deeper" finds her appropriately unsettled. She's not in the driver's seat in the latter, and it terrifies her.

lex OTM

+ it works in the narrative of the song - she's not just listened to her mothers advice and gone headfirst into love, but become her own mother, and instead of instructing how to sing like her mother did ("when you know the notes to sing you can sing most anything" which is in ITSELF a callback reference obv, they parallel) now she's instructing herself how to DANCE, which is so immesurabley greater

man there are so many callbacks in the madonna discography

how much would it enrage ppl if I let slip that I like "Fever" a ton more than "Deeper and Deeper"

that's what Erotica does, right? She records a genre record, choosing points of view with which she's also unfamiliar.

You see, that's why the "Beautiful Stranger" video is so good--she's not in the driver's seat, and it terrifies her.

hahahahahahahahaha

Can you post the last two together JF? I need my dinner!

lol @ clemenza

lol bravo

how much would it enrage ppl if I let slip that I like "Fever" a ton more than "Deeper and Deeper"

Not at all.

those defending D&D have yet to explain how it deserves top 3. beautiful stranger sounds like sub-britney IMO

LOL british cars

"fever" is great! kinda surprised it didn't place

i'm one of the eight who had 'deeper and deeper' #1, sometimes my fave piece of pop music ever. had 'borderline' number two - there's a reason that was the breakthrough.

I appreciate that the overarching sound of the Erotica album is just something that will never jibe with my personal taste, but wouldn't supporters of that record even admit that, in 1992, she'd crawled up her own ass and was indulging in immense Madonna-ness to the point of alienation of her typical chart pop fans? I guess she'd earned that right, but there's really just no entry into it for me (though I did come to appreciate "Words" more in the past couple weeks). "Bad Girl" and "Rain" I kind of leave out of this equation, because they're more traditional pop ballad styles.

those defending D&D have yet to explain how it deserves top 3

more people voted for it?

i mean okay i guess we didn't need more erotica

the middle eight of "deeper and deeper" really is the most perfectly told story within the song - you have no idea where she's going with it, it's so finely paced and each line only moves it forward a tiny bit, it's like when you're lost and drunk in an unfamiliar club and you're pushing your way through the bodies, and then "AND I'M NEVER GONNA HIDE IT AGAIN" is the moment when you just fall into the dancefloor, the place you're meant to be

then, the flamenco drop

that actually definitely is my favourite moment in all of pop music ever

wouldn't supporters of that record even admit that, in 1992, she'd crawled up her own ass and was indulging in immense Madonna-ness to the point of alienation of her typical chart pop fans?

Nah. It's her Low.

Because it's fucking amazing, xps

beautiful stranger sounds like "the joy of cola"

but wouldn't supporters of that record even admit that, in 1992, she'd crawled up her own ass and was indulging in immense Madonna-ness

no

the title track maybe

"fever" should come at -20 or something, in accordance with its temperature - the iciest thing ever

lex I'll give you $10 if you change your dn to flamenco drop

r&b flamenco drop

doesn't tim finney have a long otm post about deeper and deeper somewhere on ilm that we can drop on the haters and be done with this already

wouldn't supporters of that record even admit that, in 1992, she'd crawled up her own ass and was indulging in immense Madonna-ness to the point of alienation of her typical chart pop fans?

erotica was chart pop! house beats were all over the charts in the early 90s, my first ever music purchase was a 40-strong compilation of them, and those beats were my first mainstream chart love

does anyone else's copy of the Like A Prayer vinyl album still smell of Patchouli? mine *just about* does. pretty amazing since it was a release-day purchase.

lex I'll give you $10 if you change your dn to flamenco drop

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i need no encouragement

if Erotica had come packaged with a smell it would be of sweat-moist dancefloor dick

lex otm, at any rate. the sheer brassy desperation of the delivery of "mama couldn't be aaaaaaaaaaaaaaall wrooooooooooong" the first time the chorus comes around still makes me thrill. what a great song.

uh, "daddy" of course. o_O at me.

it basically sounds like Shep Pettibone stuck a microphone up his ass and then Madonna sang some lyrics into it
DJP, that's the second time you made me LOL tonight about something poopy. The first time was something about a wet fart I believe.

Re: 'Beautiful Stranger': the dananadanana hook > the high acid-bubbly synth in the bridge > the low acid-bubbly synth in the verses >>>> the whole of Erotica.

http://i.imgur.com/I6rEpVP.jpg

02. "OPEN YOUR HEART" from True Blue (1986) [44 votes, 1,167 points, 2 first place votes]

http://i.imgur.com/iMONiew.jpg

01. "INTO THE GROOVE" from the single Into the Groove (1985) [48 votes, 1,330 points, 6 first place votes]

righteous

hurrah!

the dananadanana hook

ripped off from Love's "She Comes In Colors."

Still, one of my favorite Madonna songs.