"express yourself" is alright but i don't think it's that special - like "cherish" (which is v much proto "beautiful stranger") and "beautiful stranger" aren't nec highest-tier madge singles for me, but at times they're just what you want. "express yourself" is like the 30th best madonna song in all situations, never the best
― r&b morcilla (lex pretend), Monday, 11 March 2013 15:06 (thirteen years ago)
oh i fucking hate everything about austin powers but it bizarrely gave us three pretty great pop songs that all stand up over a decade on
― r&b morcilla (lex pretend), Monday, 11 March 2013 15:07 (thirteen years ago)
"The Look of Love" was written in 1967.
― Zero Dark 33⅓: The Final Insult (Eric H.), Monday, 11 March 2013 15:09 (thirteen years ago)
Getting swept away by the Austin Powers franchise wasn't really a factor in my feelings about "Beautiful Stranger" (though I do love that video, and wish it had finished second in the video poll).
― clemenza, Monday, 11 March 2013 15:09 (thirteen years ago)
Even when I reduce Madonna's singles catalog down the to the 40-41 songs I believe most people could name off the tops of their heads or recognize from radio play, I find it mind-boggling that people couldn't find 20 better songs than "Beautiful Stranger"
IMO you could limit the list to every single she did in the 80s and still EASILY find 20 better songs, and I don't even like all of those singles (and have zero recollection of "Gambler")
― Darth Icky (DJP), Monday, 11 March 2013 15:13 (thirteen years ago)
lol okay 30 seconds in and I can confidently say that "Beautiful Stranger" is better than "Gambler"
― Darth Icky (DJP), Monday, 11 March 2013 15:15 (thirteen years ago)
haha
― Johnny Fever, Monday, 11 March 2013 15:16 (thirteen years ago)
strange that every actual measurement of that sort - the charts, this poll - counters yr argument
― balls, Monday, 11 March 2013 15:16 (thirteen years ago)
http://i.imgur.com/X0Gjs73.jpg
17. "HUMAN NATURE" from Bedtime Stories (1994) [21 votes, 465 points, 1 first place vote]
Nice. Was getting worried about that one not placing. By far my favorite single from BS.
― Zero Dark 33⅓: The Final Insult (Eric H.), Monday, 11 March 2013 15:17 (thirteen years ago)
gimme a break
― balls, Monday, 11 March 2013 15:17 (thirteen years ago)
haha wow, didn't think this would place so high
― Darth Icky (DJP), Monday, 11 March 2013 15:17 (thirteen years ago)
Every poll involving artists I love with large catalogues have two or three high placements that baffle me. It it would be even more baffling if that didn't happen.
― clemenza, Monday, 11 March 2013 15:18 (thirteen years ago)
my number one
and i'm not sorry
― emo canon in twee major (BradNelson), Monday, 11 March 2013 15:18 (thirteen years ago)
DJP working overtime to hurt my feelings this morning.
― the little prince of inane false binary hype (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 11 March 2013 15:18 (thirteen years ago)
xps: I'm not your bitch don't hang your balls on me.
― how's life, Monday, 11 March 2013 15:19 (thirteen years ago)
That's the one with the animals getting whipped, right?
― clemenza, Monday, 11 March 2013 15:21 (thirteen years ago)
best bits of "human nature"
1) that fucking bassline2) "would it sound better if i were a man?" - simultaneously scorning the world and coming on to it in the queerest possible way
― r&b morcilla (lex pretend), Monday, 11 March 2013 15:22 (thirteen years ago)
xp Ha, DJP's constant hatred for Beautiful Stranger on the nominations thread made me protectively nudge it further up my ballot. I like faux-psych. Great production job. Don't remember the video.
― Deafening silence (DL), Monday, 11 March 2013 15:22 (thirteen years ago)
"Human Nature" beating "Cherish", "Beautiful Stranger", "Material Girl" and "Like A Virgin" = hi dere, welcome to ILX
― Darth Icky (DJP), Monday, 11 March 2013 15:23 (thirteen years ago)
C'mon. "Like a Virgin" is really an ungood song.
― Zero Dark 33⅓: The Final Insult (Eric H.), Monday, 11 March 2013 15:25 (thirteen years ago)
that was not a criticism! didn't I just spend 90 minutes talking about how BS has the most apt iniitals?
― Darth Icky (DJP), Monday, 11 March 2013 15:26 (thirteen years ago)
don't repress yourself
― the little prince of inane false binary hype (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 11 March 2013 15:29 (thirteen years ago)
for contrast: http://www.rollingstone.com/music/pictures/readers-poll-the-best-madonna-songs-of-all-time-20120404
10. Holiday9. Into the Groove8. Like A Virgin7. Express Yourself6. Frozen5. Live To Tell4. Borderline3. Ray of Light2. Vogue1. Like a Prayer
― Darth Icky (DJP), Monday, 11 March 2013 15:29 (thirteen years ago)
lol two of those have the exact same placement in our poll.
― Johnny Fever, Monday, 11 March 2013 15:30 (thirteen years ago)
"Human Nature" feels like the Dita version of "Express Yourself."
― your fretless ways (Eazy), Monday, 11 March 2013 15:31 (thirteen years ago)
guessing 'vogue' at 2 and either 'holiday' or 'borderline' for the other
― balls, Monday, 11 March 2013 15:32 (thirteen years ago)
that rolling stone top 10 is kind of boring and obvious though
― r&b morcilla (lex pretend), Monday, 11 March 2013 15:35 (thirteen years ago)
Bet there's a split between those who most love the quintessential Madonna songs most and those who most love her songs that step outside her usual conventions ("Beautiful Stranger" and "Human Nature", say).
― your fretless ways (Eazy), Monday, 11 March 2013 15:35 (thirteen years ago)
http://i.imgur.com/ShQbeIJ.jpg
16. "DRESS YOU UP" from Like a Virgin (1984) [24 votes, 553 points, 1 first place vote]
― Johnny Fever, Monday, 11 March 2013 15:35 (thirteen years ago)
aw yeah
― the little prince of inane false binary hype (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 11 March 2013 15:36 (thirteen years ago)
TOO LOW
― something of an astrological coup (tipsy mothra), Monday, 11 March 2013 15:36 (thirteen years ago)
That one sort of surprises me...didn't vote for it, but I like it.
― clemenza, Monday, 11 March 2013 15:36 (thirteen years ago)
<3 "dress you up", second best song on like a virgin imo
― r&b morcilla (lex pretend), Monday, 11 March 2013 15:37 (thirteen years ago)
agreed ("Angel" being the first best)
― Johnny Fever, Monday, 11 March 2013 15:38 (thirteen years ago)
I was the #1 for Cherish: not to get all Geir over here, but I find lots of the main chorus hooks in the songs from her imperial period have kind of worn away their appeal to me, but one thing I've come to realize even more lately is how good she is at verses; Like a Virgin had zero chance to make my ballot until I listened to it again and realized that the best hook was right before the chorus--the "you make me feel shiny and new" part, I'm not telling you guys anything you don't already know--anyways, I think "Cherish" is p much a master class in verse-writing, the way that Madonna switches up the emphases in each subsequent bar to signal that sort of gradual build which then topples over with "don't underestimate my point of view" strikes me as really melodically inventive. If that song really was an idiotic toss-off then perhaps I still have yet to give her enough credit.
― Josh and D.A.M. (Drugs A. Money), Monday, 11 March 2013 15:38 (thirteen years ago)
and she doesn't trip over "don't underestimate" either
― the little prince of inane false binary hype (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 11 March 2013 15:39 (thirteen years ago)
^yeah otm
also I agree with Eric H. about being relieved to see Human Nature, not so much about LAV being ungood
I think I've voted for every one of the last five
― Josh and D.A.M. (Drugs A. Money), Monday, 11 March 2013 15:39 (thirteen years ago)
I will say this, though, many of my earliest memories of MTV involve Madonna sloshing around in high tide, so that may have something to do with Cherish topping my ballot
― Josh and D.A.M. (Drugs A. Money), Monday, 11 March 2013 15:41 (thirteen years ago)
i've still never gotten how 'dress you up' made the pmrc list, maybe it was just the current madonna hit and they wanted it to be known they weren't crazy about this chick either but there were other tracks at the time (and obv very much so after) that would've made a little more sense.
― balls, Monday, 11 March 2013 15:41 (thirteen years ago)
I doubt it's that binary, I mean here are the songs that have placed so far that I have voted for:
The Power of GoodbyeWhite HeatLa Isla BonitaWhat It Feels Like For A GirlFrozenAngelExpress YourselfHuman NatureDress You Up
I'm pretty sure that's not THAT far removed from the way most people picked their ballots aside from the ppl who put the entirety of Erotica on theirs
― Darth Icky (DJP), Monday, 11 March 2013 15:42 (thirteen years ago)
appalled at the low placing for "Express Yourself," what the hell people
the secret best Madonna/William Orbit song is "Amazing" off Music imo
― some dude, Monday, 11 March 2013 16:03 (thirteen years ago)
http://i.imgur.com/osD7X7V.jpg
15. "JUSTIFY MY LOVE" from The Immaculate Collection (1990) [26 votes, 567 points]
― Johnny Fever, Monday, 11 March 2013 16:05 (thirteen years ago)
gosh
― Ismael Klata, Monday, 11 March 2013 16:06 (thirteen years ago)
weak song, fake prince by lenny kravitz, who the fuck needs it
― some dude, Monday, 11 March 2013 16:07 (thirteen years ago)
Going to be an awful lot of sugar and not much vinegar in the top 10.
― Zero Dark 33⅓: The Final Insult (Eric H.), Monday, 11 March 2013 16:07 (thirteen years ago)
No.15 is a disgrace, what is wrong with you people?
― Ismael Klata, Monday, 11 March 2013 16:09 (thirteen years ago)
Agreed
― Josh and D.A.M. (Drugs A. Money), Monday, 11 March 2013 16:10 (thirteen years ago)
i just hope the beast within mix places in the remixes poll
― r&b morcilla (lex pretend), Monday, 11 March 2013 16:11 (thirteen years ago)
madonna's sugar >>>>>>>>>>>>> her vinegar
― some dude, Monday, 11 March 2013 16:11 (thirteen years ago)