I mean, someone voted this song #1 above EVERY OTHER SONG in Madonna's catalog
― Darth Icky (DJP), Monday, 11 March 2013 14:26 (thirteen years ago)
That would be me, yes.
― clemenza, Monday, 11 March 2013 14:27 (thirteen years ago)
lol at facepalm, very good
― Ismael Klata, Monday, 11 March 2013 14:27 (thirteen years ago)
can you send me your address so I know where to direct the medical bills from all of the headdesking this is causing me
― Darth Icky (DJP), Monday, 11 March 2013 14:28 (thirteen years ago)
I do applaud facepalm.gif tho
Martin Scorsese called. He prefers "Thief of Hearts."
― Zero Dark 33⅓: The Final Insult (Eric H.), Monday, 11 March 2013 14:29 (thirteen years ago)
Honestly, I don't get your hate for it...and it did very well in Pazz & Jop, if I'm remembering correctly--loving it is hardly an aberration.
― clemenza, Monday, 11 March 2013 14:30 (thirteen years ago)
it's a super sappy, unnatural-sounding dripfest in its own right but what really cemented my hatred was the fucking video
― Darth Icky (DJP), Monday, 11 March 2013 14:31 (thirteen years ago)
Sappy? Ballads are sappy--I thought you'd say corny attempt at psychedelia or something.
― clemenza, Monday, 11 March 2013 14:32 (thirteen years ago)
between 'cherish' and 'dear jessie' and the various rol thru american life stuff i wonder if you could make a comp of madonna doing the late 60s sunshine pop and hippie rock she clearly grew up on or listens to when she does yoga.
― balls, Monday, 11 March 2013 14:32 (thirteen years ago)
http://i.imgur.com/uJdMGAk.jpg
19. "EXPRESS YOURSELF" from Like a Prayer (1989) [21 votes, 457 points]
― Johnny Fever, Monday, 11 March 2013 14:32 (thirteen years ago)
So.happy I didn't have MTV then!
― the little prince of inane false binary hype (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 11 March 2013 14:32 (thirteen years ago)
(by "unnatural-sounding" I mean this is really the advent of disconnected robot Madonna for me)
― Darth Icky (DJP), Monday, 11 March 2013 14:33 (thirteen years ago)
Actually, summer '99 was among the happiest times of my life, and the songs puts me in mind of it, so on that completely solipsistic level, good on that song.
― Zero Dark 33⅓: The Final Insult (Eric H.), Monday, 11 March 2013 14:33 (thirteen years ago)
An authenticity argument on behalf of Madonna...you're messing with my mind here.
― clemenza, Monday, 11 March 2013 14:35 (thirteen years ago)
Never liked Express Yourself. I was going to posit that songs in the imperative never work, but NWA immediately expose that theory as bollocks.
― Ismael Klata, Monday, 11 March 2013 14:35 (thirteen years ago)
"Express Yourself" is great, especially that bridge
― Darth Icky (DJP), Monday, 11 March 2013 14:37 (thirteen years ago)
;_; @ Express Yourself being this low. I picked it as a dark horse candidate for No. 1
― Josh and D.A.M. (Drugs A. Money), Monday, 11 March 2013 14:37 (thirteen years ago)
I am pretty sure I hate about 80% of this side of Madonna's output
― Darth Icky (DJP), Monday, 11 March 2013 14:38 (thirteen years ago)
Despite some conversation about which version of EY was better in the voting thread, I used the single mix in the Spotify playlist. Its reach as a single is far more pervasive than as an album cut.
― Johnny Fever, Monday, 11 March 2013 14:39 (thirteen years ago)
which is odd cuz that same era is ground zero for like 80% of the cure
― balls, Monday, 11 March 2013 14:39 (thirteen years ago)
I also hate "Mint Car" and "Push"
― Darth Icky (DJP), Monday, 11 March 2013 14:41 (thirteen years ago)
I found an image of Robot Madonna and Child, just for DJP (too large to post).
― clemenza, Monday, 11 March 2013 14:42 (thirteen years ago)
also the way she sings the Rs in "stranger" and "heard" is one of my biggest pet peeves (see also "Linger" by the Cranberries)
― Darth Icky (DJP), Monday, 11 March 2013 14:44 (thirteen years ago)
lol i voted for "beautiful stranger," now tinged with some regret if it's so far ahead of "secret," "bad girl," etc.
― emo canon in twee major (BradNelson), Monday, 11 March 2013 14:46 (thirteen years ago)
but you know great spiraling ecstatic track that inspires a kind of impressive ire in dan
Even as somebody who only voted for singles in this, I'm surprised "Beautiful Stranger" is so high. I even like it -- or I remember liking it, haven't heard it in years -- but I had to cut so many better songs than that one from my ballot that its placement surprises me.
― something of an astrological coup (tipsy mothra), Monday, 11 March 2013 14:49 (thirteen years ago)
Stranger is the apogee of M's britsnobbery.
― the little prince of inane false binary hype (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 11 March 2013 14:52 (thirteen years ago)
Also, "Express Yourself" is my favorite iteration of that late-'80s empowerment pop thing (see also "Sisters Are Doing It for Themselves," "New Sensation," I feel like there was a lot of shiny positivity on the charts there for a bit).
― something of an astrological coup (tipsy mothra), Monday, 11 March 2013 14:53 (thirteen years ago)
Did she ever express any affection for, or even interest in, Blighty when she was in her pomp?
― Ismael Klata, Monday, 11 March 2013 14:54 (thirteen years ago)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cf-cOavfchs
― Darth Icky (DJP), Monday, 11 March 2013 14:54 (thirteen years ago)
http://i.imgur.com/oEEoWms.jpg
18. "CHERISH" from Like a Prayer (1989) [22 votes, 463 points, 1 first place vote]
― Johnny Fever, Monday, 11 March 2013 14:57 (thirteen years ago)
and here I was thinking I would have my furysplosion over the placement of "Cherish"
― Darth Icky (DJP), Monday, 11 March 2013 14:57 (thirteen years ago)
can't wait for "dear jessie"'s placement and dan's immolation
― emo canon in twee major (BradNelson), Monday, 11 March 2013 14:58 (thirteen years ago)
first herb ritts video right?
― balls, Monday, 11 March 2013 14:59 (thirteen years ago)
just gonna assume you are asking that of "Dear Jessie" because lol
― Darth Icky (DJP), Monday, 11 March 2013 15:00 (thirteen years ago)
In 2009, during an interview with Rolling Stone, Madonna confessed that she had never been able to predict if her songs would be successful, irrespective of her personal opinion of them. As an example, she cited "Cherish" as one of the most "retarded" songs she had written, but noted it became a commercial success.[6]
(I love it, fwiw.)
― something of an astrological coup (tipsy mothra), Monday, 11 March 2013 15:01 (thirteen years ago)
Cherish is v much not "retarded"
― Josh and D.A.M. (Drugs A. Money), Monday, 11 March 2013 15:03 (thirteen years ago)
"beautiful stranger" is likeable and really, really catchy, i don't know why the surprise? i seem to recall it being pretty popular on release, it's this light-hearted bubblegummy straight-up pop song released in the middle of an otherwise quite seriousfaced/experimental/electronic period
― r&b morcilla (lex pretend), Monday, 11 March 2013 15:04 (thirteen years ago)
I figured that once Goldmember came out and people started turning on the Austin Powers franchise, people went back to "Beautiful Stranger" and realized it is fucking terrible
― Darth Icky (DJP), Monday, 11 March 2013 15:06 (thirteen years ago)
"express yourself" is alright but i don't think it's that special - like "cherish" (which is v much proto "beautiful stranger") and "beautiful stranger" aren't nec highest-tier madge singles for me, but at times they're just what you want. "express yourself" is like the 30th best madonna song in all situations, never the best
― r&b morcilla (lex pretend), Monday, 11 March 2013 15:06 (thirteen years ago)
oh i fucking hate everything about austin powers but it bizarrely gave us three pretty great pop songs that all stand up over a decade on
― r&b morcilla (lex pretend), Monday, 11 March 2013 15:07 (thirteen years ago)
"The Look of Love" was written in 1967.
― Zero Dark 33⅓: The Final Insult (Eric H.), Monday, 11 March 2013 15:09 (thirteen years ago)
Getting swept away by the Austin Powers franchise wasn't really a factor in my feelings about "Beautiful Stranger" (though I do love that video, and wish it had finished second in the video poll).
― clemenza, Monday, 11 March 2013 15:09 (thirteen years ago)
Even when I reduce Madonna's singles catalog down the to the 40-41 songs I believe most people could name off the tops of their heads or recognize from radio play, I find it mind-boggling that people couldn't find 20 better songs than "Beautiful Stranger"
IMO you could limit the list to every single she did in the 80s and still EASILY find 20 better songs, and I don't even like all of those singles (and have zero recollection of "Gambler")
― Darth Icky (DJP), Monday, 11 March 2013 15:13 (thirteen years ago)
lol okay 30 seconds in and I can confidently say that "Beautiful Stranger" is better than "Gambler"
― Darth Icky (DJP), Monday, 11 March 2013 15:15 (thirteen years ago)
haha
― Johnny Fever, Monday, 11 March 2013 15:16 (thirteen years ago)
strange that every actual measurement of that sort - the charts, this poll - counters yr argument
― balls, Monday, 11 March 2013 15:16 (thirteen years ago)
http://i.imgur.com/X0Gjs73.jpg
17. "HUMAN NATURE" from Bedtime Stories (1994) [21 votes, 465 points, 1 first place vote]
Nice. Was getting worried about that one not placing. By far my favorite single from BS.
― Zero Dark 33⅓: The Final Insult (Eric H.), Monday, 11 March 2013 15:17 (thirteen years ago)