amanda palmer's open poem to jonathan chait (and other crimes)

I think Amanda Palmer already won the eyebrow-off, then abused the fuck out of it

sayles looks kinda sw0le in that pic

hey nice shirt inigo montoya

How is she a person of letters? Honestly.

She has a working familiarity with letters

I'd like to think that's face Sayles will make when he hears AP's tales of suffering for her art.

"I wrote "Piranha" I don't need this shit"

$10 says she writes her letter on her body, and that it is to herself.

She only knows one letter, "I," amirite?

there's no I in eyebrow

Look into my Is

http://www.hungryi.net/23590380.png

this feels pertinent
http://vimeo.com/58412851

this thread was bad enough without dragging the oatmeal into it :-(

only tangentially.
http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/sequential/stripped-the-final-push

Maura bringing fiah:

http://maura.tumblr.com/post/45293757359/inkwellinkingwell-said-your-rant-makes-zero-sense

I don't think Palmer has ever denied that she was particularly well-placed to make this work and that it's not for everybody. She knows that the fanbase she fostered with Dresden Dolls enabled her to do what she couldn't have done if she was just some new artist straight out of the gate. At least that was her stance last year. Maybe she's changed her tune in the last few months, I haven't watched the TED talk yet.

she's changing the world

Amanda Palmer should launch a Kickstarter fo Veronica Mars, and Veronica Mars should launch a Kickstarter for her. Then they could collaborate on a concept album.

Veronica Mars should be a rap alter-ego.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7MutFHKzhjc

Just assume it sucks and don't click on it, because it's horrible.

Why is it everyone thinks they can rap? "Come on, freestyle with us! Anyone can do it!". No they can't!

I clicked on it, only because I assumed it was Kristen Bell badly rapping. No, it's some guy rapping abuot Kristen.

For $2 mil, I will rap, and rap well. Biggest donors get a cameo on my cut.

Oh, of course.

http://www.wired.com/underwire/2013/03/amanda-palmer-2/

ctrl+f 'eyebrows' = 0 results

missing the point, imo

oops 1 result for eyebrows.

My distrust of her doesn't lie in the fact that she's a woman or who she's married to, it pretty much wholly stems from reading blog posts that were 100% written by her. Useful strawmen tho.

here are all these reasons people say they don't like her, but would these reasons matter if she was a he?

it's a free country I can hate who I want, eyebrows or no

i am comfortable disliking anyone -- i don't care if you're black, white, purple -- who writes:

then again, who else but [refers to self in third person] could write a mini-ukulele-opera and get MORE to the core point of connection and crowdfunding and money and energy and art and love than a simple talk could? this is the kind of shit i do.

the KLF, probably

http://weirdestband.files.wordpress.com/2012/04/tiny-tim.jpg

Actually, I totally agree with that article. I fucking hate Amanda Palmer, but in a lot of the conversations I've had about her with otherwise sane, non-sexist, rational people, there have been things said that I find pretty fucking gross. The article explicitly states it's not defending her actions, it's responding to the vitriol she's received. And it is OTM.

get MORE to the core point of connection and crowdfunding

does this just mean, inasfar as the crowd's funds are effectively gotten?

It's responding to a type of vitriol, sure

sorry but as someone who it implicitly called sexist I totally think you're wrong Emily. it was way too broad brush in its accusations, to the point of being little more than your typical "haters gonna hate" whinge.

maura, why don't you believe that LOVE is INFINITE?

Ha, okay, I didn't follow the links there, so you may be right in that it's not going after the right guys (well, definitely in some cases), but it is a very very real thing in the discussions around AP.

btw I think Neil Gaiman's prose is overwrought and his comics work was nice 20 years ago for a few issues, but he's not making pronouncements in the public sphere about his abilities and THAT is why I don't clown him

Also, the property battle from which he is some folk hero for creator rights is mainly about this character (click images):
http://www.google.com/search?q=spawn+angela

If the argument is "you are clowning AP because she is a woman," no. It's because of how she speaks of her work, not the work itself, or her gender. That said, if she worked with a label again, I would likely not criticize -- she hasn't directly spoken against large record labels, only criticized aspects of the one she was signed to a few years ago. Being well in control of your artistic vision and free agency is one thing, but acting like you're able to do that in a vacuum is the thing

Basically, I find laughing at Amanda Palmer in public to be too tiring to be worthwhile, because I have to keep smacking down idiots who decide to slut-shame, body-police, diminish because she's only some woman, her husband is famous, blah blah blah blah, when all I want to do is laugh at a terrible person.

You need to find a better brand of snark

have you tried ILX brand?

Yes people that say sexist things should be called out. But bringing this up most of the times AP's business practices are scrutinized is a rather dull way to deflect the discussion, and doesn't exactly strengthen her arguments. Neil Gaiman doesn't go around telling people he is THE FUTURE OF LITERATURE while asking his fans for free writing for his books, does he?

He's apparently involved with blackberry which is totally the future of phones (hehe)

Neither I nor the writer of that article have defended her on those bases.

remember all the 'why we hate anne hathaway' pieces? because she's too ambitious/full of herself/drama club earnest?

ap is textbook that, and there's nothing intrinsically wrong with that. some people even like her music -- pretty sure i liked at least one dresden dolls song.

but good lord when you present yourself as the apotheosis of media/creative humanity while hawking a ukelele album, come the fuck on. tao lin sucks too, and it's not racist to say so.

drama club versus tourist district street performer hustlin'

I think if you google your name often enough to have a nickname for the activity you are a bit too full of yourself.

tbh I love Anne Hathaway BECAUSE she is so ambitious/drama club earnest, which comes across as her being full of herself