xpost I thought Thriller was the first
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 6 March 2013 23:36 (eleven years ago) link
fun fact: Lenny Kravitz wrote, produced, and did bg vocals ("hoh oh-ohhhh"/"yeah yeaaahhhh"/etc)
― ferreira rocher (Stevie D(eux)), Wednesday, 6 March 2013 23:37 (eleven years ago) link
The Human League did it first, apparently.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/VHS#VHS_single
― Johnny Fever, Wednesday, 6 March 2013 23:38 (eleven years ago) link
On December 3, 1990, ABC's Nightline played the video in its entirety, then interviewed Madonna live about the video's sexual content and censorship. When asked whether she stood to make more money selling the video than airing it on MTV, she appeared impatient and answered, "Yeah, so? Lucky me."[18]
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G3yvKGQl6A4https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CUtMgR6tmwg
― balls, Wednesday, 6 March 2013 23:55 (eleven years ago) link
What an interview! Sadly, we're still having the same arguments 23 years later.
― Johnny Fever, Thursday, 7 March 2013 00:16 (eleven years ago) link
she comes off nervous (way more nervous than she ever was w/ loder) but huge kudos for calling out mtv on their bullshit for showing the 'wild thing' video (even if my 13 yr old self thanked god for it), calling out the networks for refusing to run condom ads, and (never can be done enough) calling out american parents for being lazy. crazy time capsule stuff going on in that interview w/ culture wars, second wave feminism v. third wave feminism
― balls, Thursday, 7 March 2013 01:22 (eleven years ago) link
when i was a kid mtv europe seemed to only show durex ads. i miss mtv europe, it always seemed so polymorphously pan-europa, like there was this suggestion that everyone had been cast after sleeping with some executive at a party in jeanpaul gaultiers house, or at least it seems super fabulous like this at the time, and i also miss the clocks for different time zones. when they regionalised that was the moment it got boring for me. SIDENOTE.
― plax (ico), Thursday, 7 March 2013 02:02 (eleven years ago) link
quite curious to see where these singles place: "Papa Don't Preach," "True Blue," and "Ray of Light" i.e. seemed iconic at the time
― the little prince of inane false binary hype (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 7 March 2013 03:12 (eleven years ago) link
"ray of light" seemed like a twofer for some rock critics, got to show that see they do like pop music and also see they're not afraid of techno (when there's a SONG you can HUM for a CHANGE amirite). i'm fine w/ it (i like several rol tracks, including all the other singles, a good bit more), suspect it won't place that high? could be some real narcissistic 'everyone shares my take' thought process there but yknow what? four tunnel of love tracks in the top twenty. i'm gonna ride this feeling and see where it takes me.
― balls, Thursday, 7 March 2013 03:17 (eleven years ago) link
not so fond of "Ray of Light" myself -- she sounds like she's singing from a wind tunnel in outer space, which I guess is the point.
― the little prince of inane false binary hype (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 7 March 2013 03:21 (eleven years ago) link
it's that sound of someone not even aiming for the high notes they used to hit w/o thinking twice, cf bono
― balls, Thursday, 7 March 2013 03:25 (eleven years ago) link
tbf during her Oprah appearance she does (and she looks great)
― the little prince of inane false binary hype (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 7 March 2013 03:28 (eleven years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4AX55nr-Hxw
― the little prince of inane false binary hype (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 7 March 2013 03:29 (eleven years ago) link
look at Oprah dance!
― the little prince of inane false binary hype (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 7 March 2013 03:31 (eleven years ago) link
i will say, and this is maybe perverse, but i did find myself liking it more after i heard the curtiss maldoon track it bites pretty shamelessly:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DyCURI6PiaI
tbh though that's just 'the older i get, the more i find myself sympathizing w/ hippies', if i think of 'ray of light' as madonna offering a similar vibe for her now middle aged wannabes i can feel that, 'and i feel like i just got home' makes way more sense, is way more perfectly specifically joyous in the soccer mom context than in the celestial child of the universe in the brotherhood of man context.
xpost lol and there's oprah to provide the context
― balls, Thursday, 7 March 2013 03:32 (eleven years ago) link
well, she gives them songwriting credit
― the little prince of inane false binary hype (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 7 March 2013 03:32 (eleven years ago) link
"Ray Of Light" imo has aged terribly, i'm sure "Frozen" and maybe even some deep cuts/minor hits off that album will do better. would love if it missed the top 50 entirely.
― some dude, Thursday, 7 March 2013 03:33 (eleven years ago) link
I really should think "Nothing Really Matters" is worse than it is, but you don't even have to look at the credits to hear how it's a Patrick Leonard co-write.
― the little prince of inane false binary hype (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 7 March 2013 03:34 (eleven years ago) link
god that sounds awesome, the fuck am i talking about 'ray of light' is awesome
― balls, Thursday, 7 March 2013 03:37 (eleven years ago) link
lol otm
― "Bellini." (DJP), Thursday, 7 March 2013 03:45 (eleven years ago) link
the Oprah performance is a good argument -- if someone wants to make it -- for how the opera helped.
― the little prince of inane false binary hype (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 7 March 2013 03:48 (eleven years ago) link
I love how in that Oprah link you can tell that the echo is bothering her sometimes
― "Bellini." (DJP), Thursday, 7 March 2013 03:51 (eleven years ago) link
also yeah, she couldn't have done those long-ass phrases near the end without the voice lessons
― "Bellini." (DJP), Thursday, 7 March 2013 03:54 (eleven years ago) link
was tempted to write "the Oprah lessons"
― the little prince of inane false binary hype (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 7 March 2013 03:58 (eleven years ago) link
the swoops and bleeps (and lol at that EKG meter graphics) designed to make her audience know that THIS IS DANCE MUSIC Y'ALL were dated even in '98 though.
― the little prince of inane false binary hype (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 7 March 2013 04:00 (eleven years ago) link
also:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M1G3FI_Wa0E
aww <3
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 7 March 2013 05:29 (eleven years ago) link
i miss mtv europe
Haha wow, they must have regionalised about a week after we got MTV, I had totally forgotten it ever existed. There were still echoes I suppose, like when the MTV Europe awards would be all US/UK acts, and then Jovanotti shows up like he's a megastar
― Ismael Klata, Thursday, 7 March 2013 07:41 (eleven years ago) link
Ray Of Light is awesome
mtv uk started after britpop basically as the uk and rest of europe certainly was quite different. but the 1st few years of mtv when cable hit here (94) was mtv europe and it really was hugely different. Stuff like Whale was on constantly, dEUS, and tricky.
― Algerian Goalkeeper, Thursday, 7 March 2013 07:49 (eleven years ago) link
'and i feel like i just got home' makes way more sense, is way more perfectly specifically joyous in the soccer mom context
why i voted for it (low)
― the white queen and her caustic judgments (difficult listening hour), Thursday, 7 March 2013 08:58 (eleven years ago) link
"do you want me to promote one of my up-and-coming button-pushing products"
― the white queen and her caustic judgments (difficult listening hour), Thursday, 7 March 2013 09:00 (eleven years ago) link
ha i'd never heard that line in the hippie new age sense, it's always been a bizarre flash of the mundane (and the ecstatic therein) on the album. play it when you get home from work, return to the sanctuary
― r&b morcilla (lex pretend), Thursday, 7 March 2013 09:03 (eleven years ago) link
quite curious to see where these singles place: "Papa Don't Preach," "True Blue," and "Ray of Light" i.e. seemed iconic at the timethe little prince of inane false binary hype (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn) wrote this at 2013-03-07 03:12:14.201
the little prince of inane false binary hype (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn) wrote this at 2013-03-07 03:12:14.201
I never liked any of these very much, compared to their contemporaries. When reviewing songs for this poll though, I rated Papa Don't.Preach very highly. Hope it's reflected in the poll results.
The other two I still don'tcare for.
― how's life, Thursday, 7 March 2013 11:00 (eleven years ago) link
Don't go for second best, baby. Put your ILM ARTIST POLL #31: MADONNA to the test.
― Johnny Fever, Thursday, 7 March 2013 15:23 (eleven years ago) link
so Madonna is officially pop music's first billionaire
― Diddy-Drugs A. Money (some dude), Thursday, 28 March 2013 22:56 (eleven years ago) link
nah she ain't - http://www.forbes.com/sites/zackomalleygreenburg/2013/03/28/why-madonna-isnt-on-the-forbes-billionaires-list/
― balls, Thursday, 28 March 2013 23:01 (eleven years ago) link
makes sense but would not have predicted roger waters was the second highest earning musician last year (dre first obv).
― balls, Thursday, 28 March 2013 23:04 (eleven years ago) link
haha oh nm
― Diddy-Drugs A. Money (some dude), Thursday, 28 March 2013 23:04 (eleven years ago) link
In advance I want to apologize for the fellow gays who will comment on that article and rip the asshole to shreds for "hating on" Madonna.
― the little prince of inane false binary hype (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 28 March 2013 23:06 (eleven years ago) link
i thought it would be mccartney is why i googled it. take that were #5 top earner last year fwiw.
― balls, Thursday, 28 March 2013 23:07 (eleven years ago) link
i'm almost certain sure she's a billionaire - that forbes estimate fails to account for her private investments, assets, royalties and her art collection that's worth hundreds of millions alone.
not that they're "hating" per se but i think there's been bad blood in the past with madonna refusing to release her private financial details to them (you can imagine what she's like) + other sources going out and calling her a billionaire first when forbes like to consider themselves the sole authority on this sort of thing mustn't have sat well with them.
we probably won't find out everything till she dies
― prolego, Friday, 29 March 2013 00:01 (eleven years ago) link
i def think if she hadn't have managed to become a singer she would have ended up being a ceo of a huge corporation
― prolego, Friday, 29 March 2013 00:03 (eleven years ago) link
she'd have been a dancer
― balls, Friday, 29 March 2013 00:04 (eleven years ago) link
nothing pains me more than bono being the world's richest musician, just cause he bought up shares of facebook ten years ago
― prolego, Friday, 29 March 2013 00:06 (eleven years ago) link
he also did the 1st and 5th highest grossing tours of all time, so not JUST because of that obviously
― Diddy-Drugs A. Money (some dude), Friday, 29 March 2013 05:13 (eleven years ago) link
Nah, Bono's earned it. According to Flanagan's book U2 tours were barely profitable until the mid-90s - they sunk so much money into the visuals, or whatever the hell they did pre-Achtung Baby, that they had to sell every ticket to pretty much break even.
On a related note, was it Madonna who raised the bar on ticket prices? I dimly recall top-act prices virtually trebling overnight at some point, and have a feeling she was the first to realise the Market could take it.
― Ismael Klata, Friday, 29 March 2013 15:55 (eleven years ago) link
It was the fucking Eagles who were first with $100 tickets.
Actually looked into seeing Waters last year, but tickets were $400. Interestingly, according to Mojo, Pink Floyd barely broke even on their 1994 tours because they didn't want to charge more than $40/ticket, but they had insane expenses.
― Darth Magus (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Friday, 29 March 2013 16:00 (eleven years ago) link
sorry, just bumping so I can relive the magic :)
― Flamenco Drop (VegemiteGrrl), Sunday, 23 August 2015 18:26 (eight years ago) link
I can keep up with you
― The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 23 August 2015 18:27 (eight years ago) link