Techno/House Bobbins of the past

anyways - soul ii soul 'african dance'! dope!

it's so slow

ok so i listened to contact special again and it is excellent so i need to amend my comment upthread.

the narrative arc is abduction/levitation/lift-off (first half or so) followed by struggle, inquisitiveness and finally, a kind of acceptance or contentment (not acquiescence). the music is mostly economical mills (if you want to talk comme des garçons, rei kawakubo's mottos are "strength" and "never repeat yourself"; mills' might also be strength and a kind of refinement through repetition and deep knowledge of his reduced musical tools.) the sonic palette is is mostly 909s and trademark millsian synth leads (the phrasal stuff i gush about), but there are a few housier cuts/cut-ups. nothing feels as willfully portentous as some of the soundtrack work and the album does really flow together contrary to my "it would work better as the singles" comment. it would have been exciting to collect the singles as there's a kind of chapter aspect to the flow.

my friend was at that jeff mills talk at Sonar and apparently he genuinely believes the age of aquarius is going to arrive in 2069. and that techno is paving the way for it.

Right now I have an overwhelming urge to listen to Timewriter...

This review of Sonar over at FACT FACT amused me. Proves that the Detroit camp are capable of spouting just as much bull as Richie and his minus cohorts:

The other big deal on the first proper Sónar by Night was M—nus Records presents Contakt. I’m not sure anyone who wasn’t actively involved knew everything that was going on, but the basic premise was that Magda, Gaiser, Troy Pierce, Mark Houle and Heartthrob rotated between their laptops, a bit like when you played round the world table tennis at school, and Richie Hawtin made new tunes up from different bits of their tunes on his cube. It was total Computer World, a bit like when Hot Chip make the songs up in front of you, but a thousand times more grandiose, space age and camp, right down to the outfits in the promo shots. Compare it to Jeff Mills and Mike Banks the next night, whose X-102 return was billed as ‘a conceptual tour de force which explores all the aspects of this mysterious planet (Saturn), including its rings and moons, at the classic co-ordinates of UR’ and actually resulted in a guff performance (Mills reckons that for electronic music to develop ‘we need to stop dancing, it gets in the way’), and it’s clear which techno luminary's having more fun with his vast amounts of spare time.

Mills reckons that for electronic music to develop ‘we need to stop dancing, it gets in the way’

FFS x 10,000,000,000,000

I was about to duck in and ask where just really enjoying dancing to music comes in, and I think that just got non-answered in brave new ways

Proves that the Detroit camp are capable of spouting just as much bull as Richie and his minus cohorts

c'mon you must've read some D May quotes from '89-'90?

but i wish we could talk more about specific old tracks here and what makes them so distinctly great (inc technical/musical talk, usually fun to geek on), as opposed to this wider picture stuff which is pretty circular

Start it!

(not meant to sound snide or anything--you know I always like what you have to say).

i'm including myself in that 'we', sadly

http://www.scribd.com/doc/3242075/The-Disco-Handbook

well okay let's talk joy here: i put 'girl from botany bay' on my ipod shuffle, and it came on when i was in a shit mood, and i was elevated all over again.

also, i've been listening to Lindstrom again because of the new album. and i can't decide whether he's a totally amazing one-trick pony or has actually progressed quite a bit in the last few years.

Wow, thank God I was away last week. . .

either way the environmental mix on this kills.
Lovely house tool which may or may not sample Koyanisqatii, got it for a dollar last winter and it's great to put on top of everything.

From the Beatport sample you're damn right. Good find.

Basic Channel just released its second CD of BC stuff. Not sure if that's noteworthy or not.

not really sure where to bobbins this but in chicago a couple songs that seem huge around here from the past couple years maybe? or maybe older. im bad with years. anyway these get played on all kinds of radio stations around here, and im wondering why theres no mention of for example:

craig loftus - jimmy boom

or other tracks like the house edit of natalie cole "tell me all about it," or green velvet's "shake and pop" which are so superhuge in chicago but dont really get posted about and im kinda unsure where to post about them anyway

sorry thats spelled 'loftis' but still

and song title is technically 'jimmy go boom' but still

its a james brown edit and theres a sample here
http://mp3.juno.co.uk/MP3/SF267750-01-01-01.mp3
but u have to copy and paste the link

im digging this a lot
http://www.slide.com/r/IE4DJiKavD-DgKDazmUvsqT9ZtNcusJC?previous_view=lt_embedded_url

unfolding with an electricity that's--forbid the sacrilege--Dylanesque.

doesnt he mean 'forbid the cliche'

oops rong thread

http://www.scribd.com/doc/3242075/The-Disco-Handbook

-- Display Name, Tuesday, July 1, 2008 8:47 AM

Deej have you heard the Gant Man version of Green Velvet's "Walk"???!?!?!!

can someone help me with a track id... and this is going to be a pretty vague description... zip played it at panoramabar on friday towards closing. very emotional\detroit sounding, epic pad sweeps, then an extended coda section with a voice repeatedly saying something along the lines of "you can hit me, you can hurt me, but still... i have a dream". anybody??

nah i hadn't but that sounds great! gant-man DJs every saturday at one club til 5 AM in chicago though, ive heard him spin a couple times but i really need to go back - the place is right in my old neighborhood and aside from a rough crowd its pretty cool - not a huge club or anything and a good mix of rap and house and dancehall etc

lol @ yelp reviews for the venue though:

07/06/2008

Ugh! Is all I can say about this place.

If you are into coochie popping and reenacting the scene from SNL with the Roxy Boys then go here. Seriously it was sad to see so many men bumping and grinding one girl. Then again these women are so desperate they allow that. Such class! Imagine flies on a poop and you will have this place.

Say whatever you want. This place is nasty. One star is too much in my opinion. Nice staff though.

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Lulz that has always been my suspicion about juke/ghettotech kinda places...

they do get a fair number of women actually but its def got a piranha feeding frenzy vibe when the girls hit the floor

oh and btw tim when i said 'that sounds great!' i did mean i hunted down a sample and listened! it sounds real smooth for juke stuff

can someone help me with a track id... and this is going to be a pretty vague description... zip played it at panoramabar on friday towards closing. very emotional\detroit sounding, epic pad sweeps, then an extended coda section with a voice repeatedly saying something along the lines of "you can hit me, you can hurt me, but still... i have a dream". anybody??

Could be Mike Grant's 'The Struggle of My People' on Moods & Grooves, probably the Mr.G mix. It's got a sample of Maya Angelou reciting her poem 'I Rise' on it

http://www.juno.co.uk/products/1217685-02.htm

nice

eurgh was trying to post this in chicago house thread on noise board but im still banned because zzz so i'll post it here in response to vahid:

"i'm satisfied is getting remixed and played out all over the place here, my copy is the underdog edit version, theres also a dj emmanuels remix off that dj pharris legends of house vol. 1 mix i posted about on the bobbins thread"

is that a pretty good representation of the party scene in chicago?

(cause those people in the vid are old!)

although to be fair most people at west coast house events are about my age and older, i.e. 30+

the vid in question: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=toRig6S5JZM

its a pretty good representation of a fair portion of the scene. Young people are into rap music and juke stuff, a lot faster bpms, or R&B. That said - when they would do free shows in grant park for summerdance, you would get a good cross section, a decent number of kids (as in actual children, they were all-ages events), a lot of latino teenagers, scatterings of white 20-40somethings and then the demographic from that video, like 30-50 yr old black ppl.

when i saw frankie knuckles @ green dolphin this past weekend, it was a lot like that vid except more gay

there's a lot of respect for that scene from younger kids though ... dj pharris, who did that 'house classics' set i was talking about, is the main rap dj at power 92 here in the city. house music (like the james brown edit) gets played on power 92 on a daily basis. As do the other house tracks i mentioned, like the natalie cole remix. dj pharris just released this (pretty great) song with r kelly, fat joe, busta rhymes and fabolous:
http://www.xxlmag.com/online/?p=22605

pharris usually sticks to rap music at the radio station though, they have boolumaster spin house 'classics' like the vid you posted, and then dj nehpets does the juke stuff

one of the things that was kinda annoying about the press that juke stuff gets is that it doesnt put it in any kind of context with respect to the house music this is coming out of ... just more 'gutter beats'

what an amazing party ... can't get enough of these video clips

what the version of "is it all over my face" at the end of this vid??

now wait a minute

if you were going to yield to temptation, then why'd you fall for me?

no, you listen...

"HELL YEAH"

That's great. I wish I knew which version it was...

Interview with Geir Hongro.

Geir is on the money.

We need more Geir and less Ableton.

http://www.sendspace.com/file/iybm03

that's it, thanks sous! i have another track id now, from the mole the following night. he played it 3x in a row right at the end of the 'night' when he had completely given up on mixing. nu-school (i think?) disco, loose guitar riff, female voice repeatedly intoning "don't turn it off, don't turn it off... i kinda like it"