Revolt of the ILX Brigade: New Post-Fahey Folk For PPL that post in the Takoma & Tompkin's Square Threads

listening to the song "Cadillac Desert" off of the new William Tyler on Aquarium Drunkard right now.

tbh, initially it's a bit disappointing. not that it's bad...but feels a bit overdone IMO, like it's lost a bit of the folk feel in favor of more production stuff and is kinda reminding me of like Yo La Tengo or something (and I like Yo La Tengo, but it's not a distinct from indie rock, at least this song off the new Tyler)

lol am i becoming one of those folk maniacs that yelled at electric dylan????

ha! actually, i'd still give the rest of the album a try -- that track is kind of the most accessible (possibly generic) one on the record, but it's what the label wanted me to post. i think they're trying to grab a broader, more indie rock audience with it, maybe not the ilx brigade. but there's plenty that will please everyone on this thread, i think.

yeah like honestly it's not even a bad track

i just really really really like behold the spirit a lot, mostly because of the subtle ways he toed the fahey/indie line in an interesting way....that particular song just falls a bit too much on the other side for me

I like to think of it as W. Tyler indulging his inner Jimmy Page a bit in re "Cadillac Desert"

As a fan of both Fahey and Tyler, I don't really see that they have much in common besides the fact that they both play guitar and neither of them sing (much).

The Jimmy page comparison is otm, though. And I get a heavy Sandy Bull vibe from a lot of WT's stuff. Love this album!

Golden Gunn talk here:

http://www.aquariumdrunkard.com/2013/02/25/wooden-wand-interviews-hiss-golden-messenger/#more-34253

omg i want this SO BADLY

http://www.musicdirect.com/p-54339-john-fahey-the-transcendental-waterfall-180g-6lp-box-set.aspx

Saw that at Treehouse one day, sure looks sexy. The idea of a John Fahey T-shirt, or perhaps the wearing of said T-shirt, strikes me as quite bizarre for some reason, however.

http://importantrecords.com/sites/default/files/apparel/fahey_tee.jpg?1307987347
this one is flying off the shelves at forver 21, i believe

haha i know the whole t-shirt thing really cracks me up, so funny too for 4 Men With Beards

Kinda wish it was slightly cheaper and didn't include stupid large green t-shirt no one is going to wear.

Anybody listen to the new Black Twig Pickers album? Good stuff. Now that I've obsessively spun his solo album it's hard to not hear Bowles all over this one, but the fiddle work is fantastic as well. They really are excellent, aren't they?

Also, the third track has a fiddlestick thing on it that was super cool to watch live, maybe that'll heighten your appreciation of that one. I'd personally never seen fiddlesticks used in any setting, so it was a treat. Other highlights for me are "Jack of Diamonds" and "Charleston Girls"

Have only heard a few songs, but just based on those I can say I agree already. I have "Whompyjawed", which I think was recorded at the same sessions, and love it. I also have been praising Mike Gangloff (one of the fiddle players you mention) all over the place, as he is really on all kinds of rolls between this, the new Pelt record, and seeing him live a couple of times last year.

I.e., those live sets were really great, strongly recommend seeing anything Mike is involved in. He convinced Nathan to learn banjo by the way, and plays it as well when he does solo shows depending on what he feels like doing for that particular show.

xxxpost, honestly, i don't think the fahey box is really overpriced considering how nice 4 Men With Beards pressings are and in comparisons to a great many other box sets recently.

^^ agreed

Just got back home from the Daniel Bachman instore, thanks for posting that tyler! he was great, bought his record, rah rah. I like how he isn't afraid to just dance around a hypnotic repeated figure for a while to establish mood and pacing.

the guy who runs Tompkins Square is also touring/driving with him, they asked how I heard about the gig and I tried to explain ILX to them but it can be hard to get across, so if other ilxors see him be sure to mention this thread!

oh and hey grandavis I grew up in C-ville and Bachman was totally psyched to meet someone from there (I have family so I visit regularly). I said "I bet you play at that tea house on the downtown mall" and his eyes lit up. He said there was a really cool small gallery scene there these days.

Hey I wuz the one who posted that Tompkins Square Hits The Road With Daniel Bachman press release. Took a whole 10 seconds of cutnpaste, so hey.

uh not the one I saw upthread, but no worries

Think Tyler's right about the new R Thompson too; keep hearing tracks.

And I'm trying to stay on a post diet, but wow that Shelagh McDonald thread's link to feature (and other) in froots.

Wow sleeve, cool! I have lived in Charlottesville since 1999, with a break living in NYC for a few years, so who knows, you and I may have crossed paths a few times at shows or whatnot (or even know each other for real ....) I love Charlottesville most of the time, though it can be a frustrating place as most smallish cities can be. Thankfully word spreads that it is a decent to great place to play, especially for folks OK with playing to small but really enthusiastic/thoughtful/attentive crowds. Definitely glad that Bachman enjoys coming here. I'll get to see him (and maybe even play on the bill) on this tour I think. Gotta budget for some records for sure.

Also, new William Tyler record now streaming on Spin:

http://www.spin.com/articles/william-tyler-lambchop-impossible-truth-album-stream

seeing bachman this sunday! psyched. really haven't seen many of these guys live.

this is pretty cool btw -- a mix william tyler made of stuff that inspired his latest LP: http://www.williamtyler.net/post/37986903833/just-put-a-new-mix-up-for-you-guys-a-lot-of-these

Let's try to ID these, it'll be fun.

1. Is this Durutti Column?
2. Chris Darrow for sure. I don't think this one is on Artist Proof. Dude has quite a few albums.
3. Chet Atkins maybe?
4. uh...Hopkins Bradley? Bill Fay? Some weird Roy Wood jam? No idea.
5. Robert Wyatt - "Yolanda"
6. Paul Kantner - song from that weird Baron Von Tollbooth LP, title is China something...
7. damn, Willie T throwing some props to the Eagles! LOL
8. no idea - great song! Almost sounds like Doug Sahm song but I know it isn't him.
9. no idea
10. My favorite band ever, The Roches - "Losing True." For reasons I won't go into here, it's possible I am indirectly responsible for this entry. ;)
11. Dammit, I feel like I know this, can't place it though.
12. Randy Newman, though I've never heard this song. My tolerance for this dude is very low.
13. FJ McMahon - Early Blue (best song on this LP btw)
14. no idea, but this is great. Sounds like very "second wave" (ie Henry Flynt or Sandy Bull, not an old timer. Would be cool if I was wrong about that).
15. ??? - "The Grand Tour" I know a million versions of this song but have never heard this one. The awesome vibrato-y vocals make me think Gary Stewart? That's a shot in the dark, though.
16. No idea. This rules though.
17. No idea.
18. Nope. Would love to find out though.

That's a start. Anybody else?

Hey Jimmywine, thanks for taking a stab at laying out the tracks for this. I am afraid I have nothing to add, but I listened to the mix yesterday and really enjoyed it.

wasn't really keeping track, but the last tune is fairport convention "battle of the somme"...
and yeah that chris darrow track is "take good care of yourself"
listening to the mix made me go listen to a bunch of Roches tbh.

oh boy a mix to listen to when I get home form work. Tompkins Square guy was giving out a free label sampler CD, it's good!

grandavis, the only super obvious C-ville show I can think of that we might have been at was the Happy Flowers reunion at Tokyo Rose back in 2003 or so? Can't think of anything else right this sec. I went to high school with Dawn Thompson & John D'Earth's daughter so I have seen them a lot in their various incarnations - was Cosmology still around back in the early 00's?

Sleeve, I was definitely at that Happy Flowers reunion, which was a total blast. I spent many many nights at Tokyo Rose, such a great place while it lasted. I bartended downstairs at shows there for a while, and also ran a space in Charlottesville called the Pudhouse (started by the USAisaMonster guys), so if you ever went there we would've been in cahoots as well.

While I appreciate what John D'Earth (and Dawn) do for jazz in Charlottesville, I have never really been into their sound, so I never really go to the shows.

Don't want to spoil your fun, but there is a tracklist for the William Tyler mix on the soundcloud page:

https://soundcloud.com/williamtylermusic/nashville-ear-control-volume-3

never listened to the roches, seen a grip of their albums in used record bins...where to start?

they're all good! at least the ones from teh 70's, I think there are three from that period.

debut is my fave, but the first three are all super great. be forewarned, they're a band you might hate at first? at least that was how i felt -- just like, i can't listen to this! but i kept coming back to "hammond song" and gradually fell in love. they're kind of magical.

are they in the same vein as kate & anne mcgarrigle? i like the album i have by them a lot.

yeah, definitely, kinda wise-ass folk, beautiful harmonies. roches might be slightly goofier than mcgarrigles.
loudon wainwright III married one of the roches too.

Wow, those harmonies in "Hammond Song" really are beautiful, and I see where you say they are magical. The way the three voices meld on some of the long/held notes enters some weird, super active territory. Going to have to check out some more.

i found FOUR roches records at a thrift store this week. completed my collection.

"hammond song" is beautiful and i'm glad the promise of that song got me through the first song, "we" which had me reaching for my mouse

do i wanna be a doooooooogggggggg

weird thing is when you spot the little frippy guitar parts on hammond song

there was a great john jeremiah sullivan essay on "hammond song" a few years back in the oxford american mag. doesn't seem to be online?

[we can bring this all full circle now since sullivan had a great fahey-related essay in his pulphead collection last year]

missed the bachmann show at my work last night. should have headed down there

listening to this recent fmu don bikoff performance this morning -- great! http://freemusicarchive.org/music/Don_Bikoff/Live_at_WFMU_on_Shrunken_Planet_May_12th_2012/

Aww, gonna hafta buy this Bikoff thing. It's really good.

i gotta get this bikoff, listening now on spotify it's really fucking amazing, right up there with fate is only once for lost albums