things Billy Corgan said to Kim Thayil in Australia in 1994 poll

http://fc01.deviantart.com/fs4/i/2004/227/d/d/Billy_Corgan_is_adorable.jpg

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ona4Cy9TfOA

the corgan/thayil standoff has been etched in my brain for nearly 20 years as well

so many great moments but i have to go with "you hurt me deeply in my heart"

voted for echo and the bunnymen just going from the options sitting there by themselves, but actually reading the piece, they are all pretty compelling.

"Aha!" Corgan says. "A Virgo. You're argumentative."

"Damn right, I'm argumentative," Thayil says, and takes a long, angry pulll at his beer, "which you should know because I've been arguing with you for half an hour, not because of any sign."

"I'm a Pisces," Corgan replies. "We pick up on those things."

this fucking guy

I wish I could vote for the actual best part of this, which is this:

Cornell and Thayil are settling back with a couple of beers when Billy Corgan from Smashing Pumpkins wanders through, and decides to join them for a strawberry margarita.

Aha! A Virgo. You're argumentative.

'Cuz I'm a Virgo and I'm argumentative.

Curt otm.

Although my favorite all time Billy moment is him dressing up in a clown costume onstage because he was butthurt over a bad review in Melody Maker.

What's so amazing is that this is what Corgan was like early in his career, a good many years before any other number of insufferable transgressions.

He was insufferable right off the bat.

totally insufferable nightmare

otoh, "Rhinoceros" and "Bury Me"

I'm not saying all the music is bad, but he has always been a complete twit in interviews, etc.

serious lmao at this exchange as presented here. somehow i didn't realize corgan was just as fascinating of a personality pre-mellon collie.

he is basically crazy

I always liked Thayil but that interview pretty much cemented it in my brain when it ran. Would buy him a beer anytime.

I love that nearly 20 years after these exchanges took place it's still endlessly rewarding to pick them apart and lol at what a giant tool Billy Corgan was and is. His dickheadery transcends time.

you hurt me deeply in my heart FTW

that interview is so great, alltime favorite

in context, "I'm a Pisces, We pick up on those things," is probably the most amazing line here

I had to go for "But I hate it, it means they don't think I'm the cute one." because it's so hilariously childish and petulant.

Corgan tells Thayil how important Soundgarden used to be to him, and he baits him by saying that the Pumpkins sometimes do a cover of Soundgarden's "Outshined" that segues into a Depeche Mode song or something.

fwiw imagining pumpkins covering "outshined" sounds like it could be awesome.

I'm a Pisces, We pick up on those things. is really speaking to me right now

this makes me wish Kim Thayil did all of Soundgarden's interviews, possibly also co-hosted That Metal Show or something

"you hurt me deeply in my heart" is not complete without the image of corgan pointing to the superman logo on his chest/shirt

okay

Imagine Dawn Richard is singing all of Armor On and Goldenheart to Billy Corgan in a Superman t-shirt

;_;

i kept the poll options strictly to the quotes but feel free to vote based on their full meaning and context

This interview should have won a pulitzer. Best ever.

The winner has to be "..deeply in my heart", but they're all solid gold.

"I'm a Pisces, We pick up on those things" is 100x funnier in context:

"Aha!" Corgan says. "A Virgo. You're argumentative."

"Damn right, I'm argumentative," Thayil says, and takes a long, angry pulll at his beer, "which you should know because I've been arguing with you for half an hour, not because of any sign."

"I'm a Pisces," Corgan replies. "We pick up on those things."

haha oh wait somebody already posted that excerpt

That's okay. I think it's the most remarkable part of the piece too.

such great margarita talk.

i'm a virgo... WHO WANTS TO GET DOWN ARGIN' UP IN HERER\?

i'm not v. argumentative tbh

yes you are

why do you all have to hurt Corgan so deeply?
it hurts him deeply in his heart.

google suggestions for "billy corgan is":

a douche
crazy
a satanist
fat

ok you're right xps

this is the point where someone tells nostormo to start a poll, right

"Songwriting for me is in the proximity of the possibilities," Cornell says later.

kinda wish this was an option tbh

I remember that year when Soundgarden and the Pumpkins were here, saw both twice iirc. Corgan was always a hippy twat, I'm suprised some people think that came later.

They were pretty damn good on that tour, that said. Cannot fucking believe that was 20 years ago, jesus fuck.

great poll, great interview. love that web.stargate.net still resolves. i think i musta read everything on there by now. and pulled a lot of tabs.

anyhoo honorable mention to "back to the core, the heart music. Echo and the Bunnymen." but i use "you hurt me deeply in my heart" way too often in real life to vote for anything else.

the corgan/thayil standoff has been etched in my brain for nearly 20 years as well

i bought this issue off the newsstand when it came out & instantly remembered the 'you hurt me deeply in my heart' comment when i saw this thread! kim thayil is the best. i'm sad that i probably recycled this issue just last year. the remnants of my mid-90s collection are still on my bookshelf & all i found were three different mid-90s SPIN, and one each of Alt Press and Raygun

Thanking you, OP some dude.

:)

i slept on this and i think i will go with "But I hate it, it means they don't think I'm the cute one."

so glad i didn't know corgan was such an annoying ninny when siamese dreams came out: for me that must be one of the very few "blessings" of not having access to the internet back then.

So this is where "You hurt me deeply in my heart" came from. What a total doink.

Thanking you, OP some dude.

Yes, this thread is a treat.

"Aha!" Corgan says. "A Virgo. You're argumentative."

"Damn right, I'm argumentative," Thayil says, and takes a long, angry pulll at his beer, "which you should know because I've been arguing with you for half an hour, not because of any sign."

"I'm a Pisces," Corgan replies. "We pick up on those things."

This is so perfect. In my head, when I visualize this, it's like a joke from Futurama, where Corgan is Fry, and Thayil is Prof. Farnsworth.

“So, my looks were not part of anybody’s formula as far as the success of the band. It was never talked about. Photographers would try to stick me in the back of photo shoots with the band and put other people [in front of me]. I swear to God… Well, you know, things change.”

dogg you're like half a foot taller than your bandmates!!

“I have two distinctive and handsome people in the band whom I do not permit to play on our records. I’ll be FUCKED if I let them appear in the photographs instead!”

lol that's not billy corgan

http://washedupcelebrities.blogspot.com/2007/05/jerry-supiran.html?m=1

xxp

Lmfao yes!!!

Excellent bump

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NOTHING is uglier than Jimmy's shirt

lol thats not Billy Corgan

https://www.crimemuseum.org/crime-library/famous-murders/amanda-knox/

james iha was and is the only member of the rolling stones

Poll: Who has the more fragile ego - Billy Corgan or Donald Trump?

at least Billy can read

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Looks as if the Pumpkins were part of that power pop Paisley psych look that Redd Kross/Posies/Jellyfish were giving off circa 1990

oh yeah, the gish era was 100 percent that

Was thinking about this recently and wanted y’all to remember the good times.

I'm thinking of making my next album really new wave

Did this happen?

Some absolutely crazy ilxor takes on Corgan and Alex Jones upthread from prior to November 2016.

Did this happen?

i guess he kinda got there eventually with all the synthpop on some of the recent albums

Some absolutely crazy ilxor takes on Corgan and Alex Jones upthread from prior to November 2016.

ime an artist as often hated and the focus of cruel (often justified) crticism as corgan will provoke a conspiratorial partisanship among the fanbase. "Oooh, PITCHFORK misrepresented what Billy Corgan said in a matey interview on a batshit radio show presented by a delusional fascist who baselessly accuses the parents of murdered children of faking their deaths, definitely taking Corgan and Jones's side. They're coming after Corgan and Jones to get to ME."

billy corgan thoughts: "this youth with their emotions trapped in some kind of box. lord knows what cookie cutter shape it might be. or maybe a cage with an animal. i did just see a video of a zoo's defiant baby hippo..."

Some absolutely crazy ilxor takes on Corgan and Alex Jones upthread from prior to November 2016.

ime an artist as often hated and the focus of cruel (often justified) crticism as corgan will provoke a conspiratorial partisanship among the fanbase. "Oooh, PITCHFORK misrepresented what Billy Corgan said in a matey interview on a batshit radio show presented by a delusional fascist who baselessly accuses the parents of murdered children of faking their deaths, definitely taking Corgan and Jones's side. They're coming after Corgan and Jones to get to ME."

― conspiracitorial theories (stevie), Wednesday, September 3, 2025 3:31 AM (three hours ago) bookmarkflaglink

Oh, I absolutely get where it is coming from and I think it is fucked.

We are talking about Corgan, one of the most popular rock artists of recent decades. Among fans and critics, he has put out two of the most critically acclaimed albums of the 90s and most (not ilxors, I suppose) don't know or care anything about how much of an asshat he is. That his fans that do know are so thin-skinned they need to go to these lengths to defend him, well, I would say they are perfectly matched.

Van Morrison is one of my favorite artists of all time and I have a hard time listening to him since his Covid tantrums. Not saying never, but rarely. It sucks, but I would never defend him.

Anyway, I only bought a single issue of Spin magazine in my life and it was this issue.

idk i feel like there has always been a pretty sizeable and vocal contingent of the smashing pumpkins fanbase that loves to hate corgan

I feel so sorry for him.

Anyway, I only bought a single issue of Spin magazine in my life and it was this issue.

idk i feel like there has always been a pretty sizeable and vocal contingent of the smashing pumpkins fanbase that loves to hate corgan

― ufo, Wednesday, September 3, 2025 7:51 AM (two hours ago) bookmarkflaglink

hi!

he's the 90s alt rock icon equivalent of a wrestling heel

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