Revolt of the ILX Brigade: New Post-Fahey Folk For PPL that post in the Takoma & Tompkin's Square Threads

Start buying records and supporting the arts?

I live below the poverty line and am on food stamps, but nice idea. I do buy records when I can.

actually brings up a question i've wondered about -- i know the spotify payout is tiny for artists, but let's say i listened to a steve gunn record 50+ times on spotify. does his takeaway equal the amount he'd get if i bought it for $6.99 on amazon?

Nope. Fractions of a penny per play = 50 times that still doesn't buy Steve a 16oz Baja Blast.

Not a single artist mentioned in this thread would survive if Spotify was the only game in town. Not intending to derail thread, just seems to me these folks can use our help more than, say, Action Bronson or something.

it's a complicated equation. i've listened to stuff for free for sure, that said, without spotify would i have known about half this stuff to begin with? probably not? it's definitely led to purchases.

ug, music sucks now, i don't know how guilty to feel anymore.

ha yeah, it's all so weird.
i used gunn as an example because that's basically what i did last year -- i streamed that gunn/truscinski album over and over for a couple of months...and then i bought the mp3s. so i guess he got even more out of me. he is probably rolling around on a bed stuffed with my money right now.

I don't think it's too complicated a question. Listen to twenty of these guys on Spotify or Youtube or a torrent or whatever's convenient, pick the five that stand out from the twenty, and buy their records (preferably, from the artist directly at one of their shows). This model makes everyone try harder and still allows for the sort of 'sample before you buy' discrimination among listeners that the interwebs allows. Everyone can afford five records a month.

Action Bronson gives his music away for free btw (pedant alert).

"Everyone can afford five records a month."

Thats $600 a year. Not chump change imo. And why do that when I pay $120 a year for spotify? Why throw extra money when you have it legally already and have no concern for physical media? I already know your answer and get it but like, you know, as matt says, I dont even know how to feel guilty anymore.

i would gladly pay $600 a year for spotify, because it's worth at least that much, and i am really loving the convenience of not having to DL and organize files

they really should've set the rate higher to begin with, because it was gonna catch on no matter what and now it'll never go up.

Yeah I would do it for a higher rate.

I still buy music, but when I do my wife is like "why did you just waste our (mortgage, kids) money on that when you already have that other thing?" and I can never really give her a good reason. SUPPORT SOME ARTIST YOU DONT KNOW!? FUKDAT SUPPORT THIS FAMILY

I don't think it's too complicated a question. Listen to twenty of these guys on Spotify or Youtube or a torrent or whatever's convenient, pick the five that stand out from the twenty, and buy their records (preferably, from the artist directly at one of their shows). This model makes everyone try harder and still allows for the sort of 'sample before you buy' discrimination among listeners that the interwebs allows. Everyone can afford five records a month.

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this is generally what i do, but about 2 albums a month, vinyl ain't so cheap anymore but i do support people and go to shows etc

I think 5 records a month would add up a little too quickly for me! I don't even know if I have room in my apt for 5 records a month. I'm more likely to buy 8 records every 2-3 months or so, much more of a binge-buyer than a weekly-treater. It's kinda unlike my personality in every other way, as I tend to be measured and reliably predictable.

Anyway hooray for John Renbourn -- talk about reliably predictably good. I've never heard a John Renbourn album that I didn't like. I could listen to the ones I have over and over and not really get sick of them.

yeah renbourn brings it! does he ever tour the US? can't remember ever seeing his name around.

this one is good and kind of interesting, 2LP comp of his early material, pretty common, but he's definitely at this point much more in the thrall of american folk/blues stuff and way less UK/renfaire/etc, but yeah what a fucking player.

lechera you like pentangle i assume?

http://991.com/newGallery/John-Renbourn-John-Renbourn---S-490629.jpg

LOVE Pentangle, love renfaire :)

Renbourn is great but, like with Basho, I could do without the singing.

Weirdly, I like a lot of the Leo Kottke vocal stuff (Burnt Lips, especially).

And yes, that comp rules, indispensable, really. I think that may be the only solo Renbourn I still own!

it was the first renbourn i bought and i'm glad it was the first, though i've warmed to his more fanciful stuff, esp cuz those era records are EVERYWHERE in good condition and cheap in used record stores.

man...i'd take renbourn vox over kottke but it's close....i haven't heard burnt lips though

basho's singing is pretty intolerable to me, much more than either JR or LK

That's kinda how I feel about Beverly Martyn, sadly. I'm always glad when her songs are over.

That's not really relevant aside from the fact that I would rather not hear singing most of the time. Most people are just not that interesting as vocalists and it's annoying (for me) to have to listen to words all the time.

pentangle is so unreal. it's like if, i dunno, there had been a rock band in the 60s and the guitarists were Jimmy Hendrix and Jeff Beck + and unreal awesome jazz rhythm section

definitely one of the most talented across the board bands ever

i haven't heard the john & beverly records really

I prefer Road to Ruin over Stormbringer but mostly because Give Us a Ring is on it.

I saw Bert Jansch a few (kind of a lot of!?) years ago and it was a total pleasure. As a bonus Will Oldham was standing behind me and he said bless you when I sneezed.

what a "prince."
i don't mind renbourn as a vocalist, if anything he's a little bit bland, but not offensively so.

he put his hand on my shoulder when he blessed me
it was v charming and princely

i think the only equivalent story i have is that ira kaplan bumped into me at a soft boys show and said "sorry!" what a memory.

and yeah, speaking of that guy i can understand this
my wife is like "why did you just waste our (mortgage, kids) money on that when you already have that other thing?"
i bought the new yo la tengo record and my wife asked "do we really need another piece of plastic in our house" and i had a long inner monologue about how i did the right thing. and then i patted myself on the back.

only comparable story i have is seeing early strokes open for doves in a small club and i was walking up this small stairs to the bar area and julian was coming down and was really drunk and tripped and fell into me and came within an inch of burning me in the face with his cigarette

i've flipped so many records on ebay for 10x what i paid for them 2-3 yrs after purchase that i feel not completely terrible about spending the money i do.

i've never flipped any records, i'm scared to get in all that ebay discogs shit

hmm the bar on fahey worship may have been raised: http://delta-slider.blogspot.com/2013/02/john-fahey-fare-forward-voyagers-tab.html

this was a facebook post by Hiss Golden Messenger about six weeks ago:

"It's Crying Time courtesy of Spotify: 7,570 plays of "Drummer Down" = $3.11. 8,490 plays of "Call Him Daylight" = $3.49. 6,230 plays of "Jesus Shot Me in the Head"= $2.56. 4,750 plays of "Balthazar's Song"= $1.95.
27,040 plays= $11.11. Why am I doing this again? I can't remember."

later on, in a comment, he decided to pull his music from spotify. respect

http://www.chuckjohnson.net/wp-content/uploads/2013/02/LP_front-crop-1024x1024.jpg
this one's coming out in may, should be goooood.

cool cover

i have friends who own indie labels that have pulled from spotify and i think it's the right decision

Also, rumors abound of a Hiss Golden / Steve Gunn collab. Maybe more than rumors. Heh heh.

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wow @ that austin show

lol at taussig's first performance ever! that seems crazy. what if he comes out and does an intense laptop set.

Rumors not so rumored any more, seems that Golden Gunn is getting the full-on media treatment now. Piece with a track to listen to was just posted by Three-Lobed on their twitter feed. Apparently it's a Record Store Day release:

http://www.shufflemag.com/exclusive-steve-gunn-and-hiss-golden-messenger-announce-record-store-day-lp-as-golden-gunn-debut-single

Don't want to give too much away but sounding very nice on a sunny day here in Virginia. Feels like Spring coming on.

listening to the song "Cadillac Desert" off of the new William Tyler on Aquarium Drunkard right now.

tbh, initially it's a bit disappointing. not that it's bad...but feels a bit overdone IMO, like it's lost a bit of the folk feel in favor of more production stuff and is kinda reminding me of like Yo La Tengo or something (and I like Yo La Tengo, but it's not a distinct from indie rock, at least this song off the new Tyler)

lol am i becoming one of those folk maniacs that yelled at electric dylan????

ha! actually, i'd still give the rest of the album a try -- that track is kind of the most accessible (possibly generic) one on the record, but it's what the label wanted me to post. i think they're trying to grab a broader, more indie rock audience with it, maybe not the ilx brigade. but there's plenty that will please everyone on this thread, i think.

yeah like honestly it's not even a bad track

i just really really really like behold the spirit a lot, mostly because of the subtle ways he toed the fahey/indie line in an interesting way....that particular song just falls a bit too much on the other side for me

I like to think of it as W. Tyler indulging his inner Jimmy Page a bit in re "Cadillac Desert"

As a fan of both Fahey and Tyler, I don't really see that they have much in common besides the fact that they both play guitar and neither of them sing (much).

The Jimmy page comparison is otm, though. And I get a heavy Sandy Bull vibe from a lot of WT's stuff. Love this album!

Golden Gunn talk here:

http://www.aquariumdrunkard.com/2013/02/25/wooden-wand-interviews-hiss-golden-messenger/#more-34253

omg i want this SO BADLY

http://www.musicdirect.com/p-54339-john-fahey-the-transcendental-waterfall-180g-6lp-box-set.aspx

Saw that at Treehouse one day, sure looks sexy. The idea of a John Fahey T-shirt, or perhaps the wearing of said T-shirt, strikes me as quite bizarre for some reason, however.

http://importantrecords.com/sites/default/files/apparel/fahey_tee.jpg?1307987347
this one is flying off the shelves at forver 21, i believe