I'm burning up, burning up for your VOTES! — ILM Artist Poll #31 is Madonna

also man, what the hell was everyone thinking re: "Beautiful Stranger"

there's a good song lurking in there somewhere though

I never cared for Beautiful Stranger.

oh dear god, I'd forgotten exactly how pathetic "American Pie" is

I would really like to sit both Madonna and William Orbit down in front of an automatic slapping machine for doing this cover

hahaha

Down to 29. Five from Erotica still in the mix, and I'm pretty proud of myself for managing to whittle it down to that.

I currently have a list of 41 songs I'm trying to narrow down to 20
this sucks

Same here, give or take. I'm tempted to select by 'most overlooked' and/or 'was on a movie soundtrack album'.

I will report anyone who doesn't mention "Angel" to the IRS.

oh shit, I always forget that the original album version of "What It Feels Like For A Girl" is devastating

goddammit the Just Dance remixes complicate EVERYTHING for me now. I blame you for this Alfred. *cries*

:)

I thought remixes were explicitly a separate side poll?

They are.

"human nature" is the best song in the world for basically all of its harmonies which are perfectly chilled

xpost. Ooops! Duh. Well then that uncomplicates things. thank god other people ITT can read :/

in yr face, Alfred :)

oh my god i just realized "sanctuary" samples the beer bottle from the head hunters version of "watermelon man" oh man i probably gotta put this on my ballot on principle

second side of bedtime stories is all time

holy shit i forgot that "you'll see" ever existed but i think i had the chorus in my head for the majority of third grade

The longer this thread gets, the harder it becomes for me to make a decision. Please start a new thread that begins with the supposition that choosing 20 songs will be easy, thanks.

If this were easy, it wouldn't be any fun.

Fun shmun. I'm tempted to just sit this one out and watch what happens.

I still can't believe the song with Lil Wayne on it isn't Madonna's most embarrassing single

It doesn't matter what the rest of your catalogue contains; if there's a cover of "American Pie" in there, it's the worst thing you've ever done.

i love "cherish" so much, i am a puppy

xpost OTM

lol

"Give Me All Your Luvin" is definitely giving "American Pie" a run for its money tho

The day the music died, iirc.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YdXTVZf0sZQ

Dear fans,

Aren't you glad I didn't release this as a single?

Love,

Madonna

i always kinda wished that she had worked with better people. genius people. i mean i love the stuff that i love so it all worked out and everything but her desire to be top dog might have stopped her from working with people who would have pushed her harder or made her try things in a different way? i'm not a huge fan of anyone she has collaborated with really. not even shep or jellybean. and i never liked the like a virgin album much even though i like nile. i like 70's nile. i had never listened to anything william orbit had done prior to ray of light and i didn't listen to anything he did after it. same with mirwais. i'd never even heard of mirwais until madonna. and then i never heard about him again. i liked bedtime stories okay. i think the babyface thing worked for her. would have killed for a timbaland album though. and it could have sounded even better. that album. i dunno, feel like the latter-day stuff SHOULD be state of the art and cyber-madonna cuz lord knows she's got the money to do it, but it rarely sounds like a million bucks.

what does madonna even listen to? what's on her ipod? she definitely was the proud owner of one of the most baffling record labels in history. her albums should sound at least as good as janet jackson albums. but i don't think they do.

(speaking of which, ever hear any 12 inches on jellybean's dance label? yeah, there's a reason for that. what did nile do after like a virgin? what did anyone do after working with madonna? the plot thickens...)

what did nile do after like a virgin?

Released his own albums. Also, formed a "supergroup" called Outloud, which was unforgivably terrible.

Nile's done a ton of stuff.

i'm sure he doesn't lack for work.

What happened to Mirwais? Dude was everywhere for a minute, and then vanished.

but for real just hand daft punk a million bucks and be done with it. all that money and you get...mirwais? wait, mirwais isn't actually in daft punk, is he? i'm clueless about that guy.

madonna as delilah to her producers' samson is a known pattern. jlc was the last example before she moved on to producers whose genius had already run dry.

where did william orbit go? he's on an island with mirwais. madonna keeps them there in case she needs them.

feel like the latter-day stuff SHOULD be state of the art and cyber-madonna

if "die another day" isn't this then what is? i mean, "music" certainly qualifies

also, most times madonna HAS worked with acknowledged big name geniuses, it's been a damp squib - prince, neptunes etc. and

would have killed for a timbaland album though

http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/41-iGzRxPFL._SL500_AA300_.jpg

he didn't do that whole album though? it wasn't "his" in the sense of a producer and an artist collaborating. it was a mish-mash of people.

but yeah they have worked together. and i was thinking more of when he was at the top of his game. not, uh, now. or five years ago even.

imagine Shock Value as a Timbo/Madonna collaboration

Imagine all the people refusing to buy Madonna's album.

Imagine there's no heaven

Madonna's biggest problem of the last decade plus is working with producers who aren't songwriters. There's a grace to even the most anonymous songs on Bedtime Stories which is absent from her post ray of light work. Even the great material on Confessions is more like monolithic groove plus earworm hook rather than decent song.

Yeah I was thinking the same thing. It's all hat and no cowboy, to coin one of my favorite phrases :)

which is what drives me crazy. she could work with ANYBODY. for real. anybody. if she pays them enough. makes no sense. the woman makes no sense.

money can't buy cowboy

max martin madonna album would slay all foes.

has anyone talked about EVITA yet?
what about the man who plays guitar in the video for "la isla bonita"?

but madonna's ability to be truly great does not correlate to the established greatness of her collaborators.