Revolt of the ILX Brigade: New Post-Fahey Folk For PPL that post in the Takoma & Tompkin's Square Threads

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goddamn just went to electric fetus to get the new bad seeds record and picked up "the new possibility: john fahey's guitar soli christmas album" for 3.99....AND an SEALED ORIGINAL PRESS of "artist proof" by chris darrow for 11!

william tyler the creator (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 19 February 2013 16:28 (thirteen years ago)

love that fahey xmas album. and the darrow LP is one of my favorite discoveries of the last year or so. perfect record.

tylerw, Tuesday, 19 February 2013 16:46 (thirteen years ago)

it's weird i just listened to that fahey record for the first time yesterday on spotify and there it was! i think it's better than the other xmas album of his

william tyler the creator (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 19 February 2013 16:47 (thirteen years ago)

This thread is gold, obviously! You are just reaping the rewards for creating it Upper Miss. Sh@kedown (weird to type that in full for some reason.

grandavis, Tuesday, 19 February 2013 17:06 (thirteen years ago)

haha feel free to ignore the @ which is kind of annoying in retrospect

william tyler the creator (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 19 February 2013 17:13 (thirteen years ago)

I will skip the @, no problem. More that it's hard to say in my head while I type it, but not a big deal at all.

That Lena Hughes album, the parts I have heard, is a real treat. A big part of the appeal of this stuff is that I appreciate the "resonance of the open chord" from a guitar so much. Something I have a seemingly endless appetite for.

grandavis, Tuesday, 19 February 2013 19:08 (thirteen years ago)

yeah it's so nice, there's such an unhurried, relaxed feel to it, she's not a super complex player but she's so precise with what she does do and she has a very unique vibe

william tyler the creator (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 19 February 2013 19:25 (thirteen years ago)

Agreed. Complexity is not the main thing for me, vibe and tone and all the other stuff goes a super long way. Complexity is fine when done well, but complexity can go wrong really fast when applied to solo guitar.

grandavis, Tuesday, 19 February 2013 19:41 (thirteen years ago)

once again so many thanks to spottie for the spotify playlist

one thing that was mentioned in passing here that is really amazing:

nick schillace

in a chef-driven ambulance (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 20 February 2013 18:50 (thirteen years ago)

n/p

I've been really enjoying this stuff. Been giving a lot of time to John Renbourn over the last few weeks.

skeet-skeet-gate (Spottie_Ottie_Dope), Wednesday, 20 February 2013 20:20 (thirteen years ago)

kinda digging this guy http://mikefekete.com/
via a rec on delta slider.

tylerw, Thursday, 21 February 2013 03:12 (thirteen years ago)

Listening to the new Richard Thompson

Pretty good so far! Songs range from solid to really good, every solo is a fucking stunner

Really good band, and hats off to Buddy Miller, sounds great, recorded analog

I wish all his 80s and 90s records sounded like this

in a chef-driven ambulance (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 21 February 2013 16:26 (thirteen years ago)

I am pretty out of the loop when it comes to Richard Thompson. Do you have a good recommendation on where to start, keeping in mind I am definitely most interested in his guitar playing. Guess his catalogue is vast and goes in a lot of different directions, but great solos and playing would trump most other things for me (as a starting point at least).

grandavis, Thursday, 21 February 2013 17:06 (thirteen years ago)

for guitar, maybe Strict Tempo?

I mean, as far as just great records (which have a lot of great playing) the Linda albums: Hokey Pokey, Shoot Out The Lights, I Want to See the Bright Lights Tonight, Pour Down Like Silver

there's a Fairport live album that's supposed to be great

in a chef-driven ambulance (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 21 February 2013 18:33 (thirteen years ago)

Thanks, have had recs for most of those Linda albums, especially "I Want to See the Bright Lights Tonight", so maybe I'll start there. Will look for "Strict Tempo" too.

grandavis, Thursday, 21 February 2013 18:37 (thirteen years ago)

I Want to See the Bright Lights is a pretty good jumping off point IMO, was the first one I ever got and it's just stunning from front to back

in a chef-driven ambulance (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 21 February 2013 18:48 (thirteen years ago)

Stunning from front to back sounds alright to me. Seems like absolutely the way to go.

grandavis, Thursday, 21 February 2013 19:05 (thirteen years ago)

probably out of print, but that ryko watching the dark comp is great.

tylerw, Thursday, 21 February 2013 19:09 (thirteen years ago)

fyi, any new yorkers lurking here, a friend just tipped me that Charlie Parr is playing next Thursday at the Rockwell Music Hall on Allen street.

i guess i'd just rather listen to canned heat? (ian), Thursday, 21 February 2013 19:16 (thirteen years ago)

oh neat! he's really good live

he has a new album out too, i heard it at a friend's house, not on spotify, but i think the band is a lot of guys from the Black Eyed Snakes (Alan Sparhawk from Low's old blues sideproject)

in a chef-driven ambulance (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 21 February 2013 19:18 (thirteen years ago)

Parr's new record has a band on it? That piques my interest, even moreso that it's Black Eyed Snakes folks... hope it'll end up on Spotify at some point.

Slightly off-topic, but isn't Spotify in dire shape financially? I am starting to realize the extent to which I've become reliant on it, if it went under, I don't know what I'd do.

global tetrahedron, Friday, 22 February 2013 14:47 (thirteen years ago)

Start buying records and supporting the arts?

If Assholes Could Fly This Place Would Be An Airport, Friday, 22 February 2013 15:43 (thirteen years ago)

I live below the poverty line and am on food stamps, but nice idea. I do buy records when I can.

global tetrahedron, Friday, 22 February 2013 16:16 (thirteen years ago)

actually brings up a question i've wondered about -- i know the spotify payout is tiny for artists, but let's say i listened to a steve gunn record 50+ times on spotify. does his takeaway equal the amount he'd get if i bought it for $6.99 on amazon?

tylerw, Friday, 22 February 2013 16:22 (thirteen years ago)

Nope. Fractions of a penny per play = 50 times that still doesn't buy Steve a 16oz Baja Blast.

Not a single artist mentioned in this thread would survive if Spotify was the only game in town. Not intending to derail thread, just seems to me these folks can use our help more than, say, Action Bronson or something.

If Assholes Could Fly This Place Would Be An Airport, Friday, 22 February 2013 19:25 (thirteen years ago)

it's a complicated equation. i've listened to stuff for free for sure, that said, without spotify would i have known about half this stuff to begin with? probably not? it's definitely led to purchases.

ug, music sucks now, i don't know how guilty to feel anymore.

in a chef-driven ambulance (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 22 February 2013 19:27 (thirteen years ago)

ha yeah, it's all so weird.
i used gunn as an example because that's basically what i did last year -- i streamed that gunn/truscinski album over and over for a couple of months...and then i bought the mp3s. so i guess he got even more out of me. he is probably rolling around on a bed stuffed with my money right now.

tylerw, Friday, 22 February 2013 19:32 (thirteen years ago)

I don't think it's too complicated a question. Listen to twenty of these guys on Spotify or Youtube or a torrent or whatever's convenient, pick the five that stand out from the twenty, and buy their records (preferably, from the artist directly at one of their shows). This model makes everyone try harder and still allows for the sort of 'sample before you buy' discrimination among listeners that the interwebs allows. Everyone can afford five records a month.

If Assholes Could Fly This Place Would Be An Airport, Friday, 22 February 2013 19:44 (thirteen years ago)

Action Bronson gives his music away for free btw (pedant alert).

"Everyone can afford five records a month."

Thats $600 a year. Not chump change imo. And why do that when I pay $120 a year for spotify? Why throw extra money when you have it legally already and have no concern for physical media? I already know your answer and get it but like, you know, as matt says, I dont even know how to feel guilty anymore.

Harlem vs Alabama (Spottie_Ottie_Dope), Friday, 22 February 2013 20:17 (thirteen years ago)

i would gladly pay $600 a year for spotify, because it's worth at least that much, and i am really loving the convenience of not having to DL and organize files

D4y0 (some dude), Friday, 22 February 2013 20:19 (thirteen years ago)

they really should've set the rate higher to begin with, because it was gonna catch on no matter what and now it'll never go up.

D4y0 (some dude), Friday, 22 February 2013 20:20 (thirteen years ago)

Yeah I would do it for a higher rate.

I still buy music, but when I do my wife is like "why did you just waste our (mortgage, kids) money on that when you already have that other thing?" and I can never really give her a good reason. SUPPORT SOME ARTIST YOU DONT KNOW!? FUKDAT SUPPORT THIS FAMILY

Harlem vs Alabama (Spottie_Ottie_Dope), Friday, 22 February 2013 20:24 (thirteen years ago)

I don't think it's too complicated a question. Listen to twenty of these guys on Spotify or Youtube or a torrent or whatever's convenient, pick the five that stand out from the twenty, and buy their records (preferably, from the artist directly at one of their shows). This model makes everyone try harder and still allows for the sort of 'sample before you buy' discrimination among listeners that the interwebs allows. Everyone can afford five records a month.

― If Assholes Could Fly This Place Would Be An Airport, Friday, February 22, 2013 1:44 PM (48 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

this is generally what i do, but about 2 albums a month, vinyl ain't so cheap anymore but i do support people and go to shows etc

in a chef-driven ambulance (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 22 February 2013 20:34 (thirteen years ago)

I think 5 records a month would add up a little too quickly for me! I don't even know if I have room in my apt for 5 records a month. I'm more likely to buy 8 records every 2-3 months or so, much more of a binge-buyer than a weekly-treater. It's kinda unlike my personality in every other way, as I tend to be measured and reliably predictable.

Anyway hooray for John Renbourn -- talk about reliably predictably good. I've never heard a John Renbourn album that I didn't like. I could listen to the ones I have over and over and not really get sick of them.

and that sounds like a gong-concert (La Lechera), Friday, 22 February 2013 20:39 (thirteen years ago)

yeah renbourn brings it! does he ever tour the US? can't remember ever seeing his name around.

tylerw, Friday, 22 February 2013 20:41 (thirteen years ago)

this one is good and kind of interesting, 2LP comp of his early material, pretty common, but he's definitely at this point much more in the thrall of american folk/blues stuff and way less UK/renfaire/etc, but yeah what a fucking player.

lechera you like pentangle i assume?

http://991.com/newGallery/John-Renbourn-John-Renbourn---S-490629.jpg

in a chef-driven ambulance (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 22 February 2013 20:43 (thirteen years ago)

LOVE Pentangle, love renfaire :)

and that sounds like a gong-concert (La Lechera), Friday, 22 February 2013 20:45 (thirteen years ago)

Renbourn is great but, like with Basho, I could do without the singing.

Weirdly, I like a lot of the Leo Kottke vocal stuff (Burnt Lips, especially).

If Assholes Could Fly This Place Would Be An Airport, Friday, 22 February 2013 20:46 (thirteen years ago)

And yes, that comp rules, indispensable, really. I think that may be the only solo Renbourn I still own!

If Assholes Could Fly This Place Would Be An Airport, Friday, 22 February 2013 20:46 (thirteen years ago)

it was the first renbourn i bought and i'm glad it was the first, though i've warmed to his more fanciful stuff, esp cuz those era records are EVERYWHERE in good condition and cheap in used record stores.

man...i'd take renbourn vox over kottke but it's close....i haven't heard burnt lips though

basho's singing is pretty intolerable to me, much more than either JR or LK

in a chef-driven ambulance (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 22 February 2013 20:52 (thirteen years ago)

That's kinda how I feel about Beverly Martyn, sadly. I'm always glad when her songs are over.

and that sounds like a gong-concert (La Lechera), Friday, 22 February 2013 20:53 (thirteen years ago)

That's not really relevant aside from the fact that I would rather not hear singing most of the time. Most people are just not that interesting as vocalists and it's annoying (for me) to have to listen to words all the time.

and that sounds like a gong-concert (La Lechera), Friday, 22 February 2013 20:54 (thirteen years ago)

pentangle is so unreal. it's like if, i dunno, there had been a rock band in the 60s and the guitarists were Jimmy Hendrix and Jeff Beck + and unreal awesome jazz rhythm section

definitely one of the most talented across the board bands ever

i haven't heard the john & beverly records really

in a chef-driven ambulance (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 22 February 2013 20:56 (thirteen years ago)

I prefer Road to Ruin over Stormbringer but mostly because Give Us a Ring is on it.

and that sounds like a gong-concert (La Lechera), Friday, 22 February 2013 21:01 (thirteen years ago)

I saw Bert Jansch a few (kind of a lot of!?) years ago and it was a total pleasure. As a bonus Will Oldham was standing behind me and he said bless you when I sneezed.

and that sounds like a gong-concert (La Lechera), Friday, 22 February 2013 21:02 (thirteen years ago)

what a "prince."
i don't mind renbourn as a vocalist, if anything he's a little bit bland, but not offensively so.

tylerw, Friday, 22 February 2013 21:14 (thirteen years ago)

he put his hand on my shoulder when he blessed me
it was v charming and princely

and that sounds like a gong-concert (La Lechera), Friday, 22 February 2013 21:15 (thirteen years ago)

i think the only equivalent story i have is that ira kaplan bumped into me at a soft boys show and said "sorry!" what a memory.

tylerw, Friday, 22 February 2013 21:25 (thirteen years ago)

and yeah, speaking of that guy i can understand this
my wife is like "why did you just waste our (mortgage, kids) money on that when you already have that other thing?"
i bought the new yo la tengo record and my wife asked "do we really need another piece of plastic in our house" and i had a long inner monologue about how i did the right thing. and then i patted myself on the back.

tylerw, Friday, 22 February 2013 21:38 (thirteen years ago)

only comparable story i have is seeing early strokes open for doves in a small club and i was walking up this small stairs to the bar area and julian was coming down and was really drunk and tripped and fell into me and came within an inch of burning me in the face with his cigarette

in a chef-driven ambulance (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 22 February 2013 21:45 (thirteen years ago)


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