Bilal - Airtight's Revenge

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I loved airtight's revenge but yeah I see what you're saying, this feels less... dense?

wins rules at negative self-demolition (wins), Monday, 18 February 2013 22:44 (thirteen years ago)

Yeah, it definitely is. There's a lot more space on this one. Totally different vibe, too. (And as good as the first half of this one is, the second half is even more striking).

Evan R, Monday, 18 February 2013 22:47 (thirteen years ago)

also i know everybody made last year about channel orange vs. kaleidoscope dream but this record (at least so far) actually registers to me as kind of a version of channel orange i find 100 percent compelling. a similar feeling of wandering strangeness but the songs are all incredibly present oh and the PLAYING is fantastic

emo canon in twee major (BradNelson), Monday, 18 February 2013 22:48 (thirteen years ago)

Unfortunately, it's not as flashy or personality-driven as Channel Orange, and between that and its leisurely pacing and NPR jazziness I'm afraid that it's not gonna get a fraction of the press it deserves. I feel like this could be the album that turns me into Lex, the true believer crying out to every critic that they need to hear an album they have no intention of ever listening to

Evan R, Monday, 18 February 2013 22:52 (thirteen years ago)

the second half is even more striking

the glasper track is incredible! does ilx like glasper? No thread, and I can't remember seeing any chatter anywhere. Too npr-y? I loved the last one with all the neo-soul artists on it (bilal, badu, ndegeocello!)

ha xp

wins rules at negative self-demolition (wins), Monday, 18 February 2013 23:01 (thirteen years ago)

answers my question I guess. I'm a brit so I have only a vague sense of what npr even is, except that a lot of my favourite albums seem to turn up as "first listens" there

wins rules at negative self-demolition (wins), Monday, 18 February 2013 23:03 (thirteen years ago)

That Glasper album was very good, but maybe a little "safe" to garner widespread interest. Glasper's contributions here, though, are head turning. Would love to maybe see these two make a full album together some day

Evan R, Monday, 18 February 2013 23:06 (thirteen years ago)

"back to love" is ruling my life today

een, Monday, 18 February 2013 23:06 (thirteen years ago)

channel orange invocation so very unnecessary

r|t|c, Monday, 18 February 2013 23:10 (thirteen years ago)

sorry rtc! was just a thought i had. forget i mentioned it

emo canon in twee major (BradNelson), Monday, 18 February 2013 23:11 (thirteen years ago)

lol u dont have to actually apologise

it's just a smothering idea for first blushes is all

r|t|c, Monday, 18 February 2013 23:15 (thirteen years ago)

ooh i didn't know robert glasper was on this

william tyler the creator (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 18 February 2013 23:16 (thirteen years ago)

it's just a smothering idea for first blushes is all

true

emo canon in twee major (BradNelson), Monday, 18 February 2013 23:17 (thirteen years ago)

tbh i'd kinda always felt this guy flattered to deceive somewhat (not to say i ever thought he was fraudulent, just that idk he could have done more than settle for the cosily oblique) but the second half of this is sounding pretty wonderful and deeply satisfying

r|t|c, Monday, 18 February 2013 23:25 (thirteen years ago)

you could be onto something for all I know, I've always been glad to be a sucker tbh

wins rules at negative self-demolition (wins), Monday, 18 February 2013 23:28 (thirteen years ago)

yeah never mind whatever i said upthread about this record bc i honestly hadn't reached the second side yet

which goddamn

emo canon in twee major (BradNelson), Monday, 18 February 2013 23:39 (thirteen years ago)

you could be onto something for all I know, I've always been glad to be a sucker tbh

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winsomely put. the unspoken superficialities of bohemian appreciation is a topic of perpetual interest imo, like i know as i fall in love with this record that i'm certainly not really checking for the lyrics as a whole and indeed ever getting round to doing so would likely feel like an artificial labour; simultaneously however i wallow in the dusky signifiers of numinous soulful substance.

guess essentially it's a question of personal stock markets and why i sell on a supposedly thin and indulgent first half and buy on a supposedly rich and affecting second half; in reality i don't doubt they're cut from the same cloth

if there were an interesting comparison with channel orange it's might be one of image and presentation; how the cover art of each invite/preclude different stratas of suckerdom (a hunch can't be bovd to flesh out so good luck w/ that)

r|t|c, Tuesday, 19 February 2013 14:34 (thirteen years ago)

in any case, got this album helplessly on loop today

r|t|c, Tuesday, 19 February 2013 14:38 (thirteen years ago)

Here's my weird bias: I wish the second half came first, because it's the much more interesting sell (and I suppose because it has the killer vocal performances), even though the album is a much more logical listen as it is. I just don't want people dipping in for a few songs, assuming they've heard everything there is, then ducking out before they get to the revelations.

Evan R, Tuesday, 19 February 2013 14:56 (thirteen years ago)

so far i like to hear it as two mini lps, small and perfectly formed like blacksummersnight; probably if i really studied the lyrics there'd be some greater intended arc this might disfigure but concision has its own logic (and often a better, more suggestive one at that)

r|t|c, Tuesday, 19 February 2013 15:22 (thirteen years ago)

doubtful in any case that anyone so minded to bother to check this album out at all is ever going to skip the second half

r|t|c, Tuesday, 19 February 2013 15:25 (thirteen years ago)

anyone have credits for this? who's on drums?

queeple qua queeple (Jordan), Tuesday, 19 February 2013 15:38 (thirteen years ago)

Yeah the drums AND the bass O__o

skeet-skeet-gate (Spottie_Ottie_Dope), Tuesday, 19 February 2013 15:39 (thirteen years ago)

guessing derrick hodge on bass

queeple qua queeple (Jordan), Tuesday, 19 February 2013 15:43 (thirteen years ago)

this could be a banner year for, uh, neo-neo-soul. this, jose james, and i guess it's maybe even possible that there's an outside chance that d'angelo and maxwell will drop their records.

queeple qua queeple (Jordan), Tuesday, 19 February 2013 15:46 (thirteen years ago)

that would be an incredible year.

skeet-skeet-gate (Spottie_Ottie_Dope), Tuesday, 19 February 2013 15:48 (thirteen years ago)

Yeah, that's a trend piece I would love to read

Evan R, Tuesday, 19 February 2013 15:59 (thirteen years ago)

definitely feeling the slower second half more

queeple qua queeple (Jordan), Tuesday, 19 February 2013 16:19 (thirteen years ago)

was quite excited about this based on the hosannahs but in what way is this not bilal making the same kind of album he always makes? that's nice to listen to with a few interesting details for a week or so and then you completely forget about it. case in point, his last album seems to have disappeared from my itunes and this is the first time i've noticed. "slipping away" is pretty great i guess but he never stops my attention wandering.

the robert glasper album last year was really great, much better and more varied imo

lex pretend, Saturday, 23 February 2013 14:57 (thirteen years ago)

this is based on 2 listens, i guess i'm not done with it yet but it didn't blow me away

lex pretend, Saturday, 23 February 2013 14:58 (thirteen years ago)

don't recall much inhomogeneous about the glasper rec, nice enough though it was

r|t|c, Saturday, 23 February 2013 15:36 (thirteen years ago)

really? quite apart from the multiplicity of voices you've got breezy summer jams, heavy-lidded bedroom soul, dr dre interpolations, nirvana through a talkbox...it's one of the most varied (broadly) neo-soul albums i can think of

lex pretend, Saturday, 23 February 2013 17:54 (thirteen years ago)

imo the "forgettable" feeling with bilal (which i also get) has a lot more to do with the internet crit community's tendency not to reward these types of records than with some fundamental replay value issue

een, Saturday, 23 February 2013 19:17 (thirteen years ago)

In case this hadn't been posted:

http://m.soundcloud.com/eone-music/bilal-the-retrospection

DAMN.

Raymond Cummings, Thursday, 7 March 2013 12:49 (thirteen years ago)

I listened to the new album once and forgot about it :/

radric: the gathering (The Reverend), Thursday, 7 March 2013 18:22 (thirteen years ago)

still hanging in there nicely for me

r|t|c, Thursday, 7 March 2013 18:24 (thirteen years ago)

yeah, I need to go back

radric: the guccining (The Reverend), Thursday, 7 March 2013 18:34 (thirteen years ago)

Buying today, will report back

Raymond Cummings, Monday, 11 March 2013 20:45 (thirteen years ago)

"butterfly" is my favourite, that one is gorgeous

monotony, Tuesday, 12 March 2013 01:17 (thirteen years ago)

Not sure if this album can crack my top 10, but love the shit out of "west side girl"

Raymond Cummings, Friday, 22 March 2013 11:53 (thirteen years ago)

What would Bilal's Purple Rain look like?

Raymond Cummings, Wednesday, 27 March 2013 11:36 (thirteen years ago)

This is a GROWER

Raymond Cummings, Tuesday, 2 April 2013 12:34 (thirteen years ago)

seven months pass...

album of the year

sleepingbag, Saturday, 16 November 2013 15:45 (twelve years ago)

One of em yeah

comic sbans soref (wins), Saturday, 16 November 2013 15:48 (twelve years ago)

It will get a track on my singles list at the least

Weird this thread came back, been revisiting this album over the last few days

Beatrix Kiddo (Raymond Cummings), Sunday, 17 November 2013 00:50 (twelve years ago)

same

Spottie, Sunday, 17 November 2013 04:47 (twelve years ago)

revisited it the other week, still slams

emo canon in twee major (BradNelson), Sunday, 17 November 2013 18:13 (twelve years ago)

love "Climbing." the 'smoking some mary jane, with Marilyn, in Maryland' line just jumped out at me because i used to know a pothead girl in Baltimore County by that name.

some dude, Monday, 18 November 2013 14:49 (twelve years ago)

Nice

comic sbans soref (wins), Monday, 18 November 2013 14:51 (twelve years ago)

one month passes...

That bass on Winning Hand.

Spottie, Thursday, 9 January 2014 06:26 (twelve years ago)


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