Azealia Banks

I know many people, from the hood to the suburbs, who toss around 'nigga' and 'faggot' as if they have no historical meaning whatsoever. I hear Filipino, Latino, and everyone else use 'nigga' as their equivalent to 'dude' and it's rare for someone to jump up and be vocally defensive about it because a lot of people, for better or worse, don't grant those words the same power we all collectively once did.

michael richards will be relieved to hear about this

I taught American History to high schoolers and subbed at jr. high. These kids give no fucks about using those words. They don't even seem aware that they should.

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Micheal Richards doesn't matter. And way to take my comment out of context to make it sound like I'm excusing the language.

w/ teachers like you whatta surprise

If they're born in the late eighties or early nineties and in college they don't use thise words, not around here. Plus, my university has a massive anti fag means stupid campaign

I do need to get a move on the butthurt=awesome campaign

Plus, my university has a massive anti fag means stupid campaign

would like to see the posters for this

I get yr larger point, but saying that nobody cares about the n-word or f-word seems kinda idealistic, if a popular white rapper dropped an album w/ the n-word all over it the ppl who care would outnumber the ppl who don't. plus I imagine only half the rappers who throw the f-word around are secretly gay, that's a problem.

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whoasorry thought you said "Anti-Flag". nevermind. continue.

Point is, I only use "f*****" as a f***** and directed toward other f*****s who I like. Which is near-diametric to how AB played it.

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Oh, balls...keep ballin

I never said no one should care. Not my argument at all! I was simply stating that there are people who use those words casually, and we shouldn't act as if they don't exist because it doesn't fit into the preferred narrative

I guess I'll confess I remember the pains kreayshawn took to distance herself from v-nasty's outbursts. was trying to come up with a racially based pun on tourette's but I'm gonna quit while I'm ahead.

it's ok to call something queer if you're from new england as long as you pronounce it quee-uh, it's like a -gger vs -gga thing

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balls been ballin since balls had small faces

that is still one of the most amazing South Park moments

Our radio station runs PSAs. Same campaign paid for ads on every campus bus.

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i'm not buying her argument at all, at the least because it just reads too defensively. i don't think you get to assert an alternate, general meaning for your hate speech AFTER you've thrown it at someone in the targeted category

when 50 cent went into similar homophobia on twitter he got blowback for it. also iirc correctly someone somewhere wrote something about tyler's homophobic and misogynist language. willing to bet that ppl have written about hateful language from other male rappers before, they got chuck d like jesus iirc. if there seems to be some inordinate amount of attn paid to this now it's becuz the standards of behavior have been raised since will smith could crack aids jokes or pe could work some gaybashing into their aids song. doesn't seem crazy to think if hs football coaches in alabama can be taken to task for using homophobic language in 2013 then youtube one hit wonders can also. it's called progress.

azealia banks I question her queerness she calls herself queer but we'll see if she plays this

and the generalized "backstabber bloodsucker" meaning doesn't even make sense. i'm out of touch with the youth culture these days, but can anybody tell me if teen girls are calling each other faggots these days?

what are the odds on her dropping a "but some of my best friends are gay" defense

Her argument (if you can call it that) is so flawed and terrible. There is zero justification for it, and she just needs to own that fact, do a duet with Elton John and I'm sure we'll all forget...just like last time.

elton john's out of her league, maybe rufus wainwright is available

but hey maybe rural alabama is more progressive and has better schools than where mr slappy subs and they throw up their hands at kids using bigoted language and think 'well, kids don't always follow the preferred narrative! whattya gonna do?' instead of maybe pointing out to these kids that in the real world using that kind of language will make it impossible for them to hold a job (unless they work in silicon valley), maybe discipline and guide them, maybe even teach them (call it a 'teachable moment' maybe). maybe mr slappy subs in mississippi.

who exactly forgot eminem is a bigot?

You really need to de-crabbify your cunt. You are projecting extra hard this morning. I can't even be offended because it's like you're not even responding to what I wrote.

looks like that cunt's gettin' de-crabbified

iirc ppl mostly stopped caring about Eminem because he was spending most of his time yelling "I LUV U" at his daughter, so he said some homophobic shit on a Nicki Minaj song and threatened to beat up Rihanna on "Love the Way You Lie" to become noteworthy again

that was sooner than I expected lol

the more I think about it the more feeble comparisons between f-word and n-word use seem, if alone for the fact that few ppl are secretly black

oh man you dropped the c-word, leveling up huh

it's ok to say on the azealia banks thread, pass it on

yeah it's never an especially useful parallel, but they're also probably the most powerful and prevalent slurs against minorities that constantly get thrown around and debated about, so they'll always be twinned to some extent. the Blur and Oasis of hate speech. (xp)

slappy was there another homophobic rapper who did a duet w/ elton john and their bigotry was forgotten? are you referring to axl rose here - do a duet with Elton John and I'm sure we'll all forget...just like last time?

yeah it's never an especially useful parallel, but they're also probably the most powerful and prevalent slurs against minorities that constantly get thrown around and debated about, so they'll always be twinned to some extent. the Blur and Oasis of hate speech. (xp)

does that make c-word the Suede of hate speech

actually that's the London Cunt in the U.S.

No, balls. No.

Eminem is still listed as the best rapper of all time, for many people (not myself, obv). No one associates his name with his homophobic lyrics these days as often as you'd like to think. And if they do, they down-play that fact with gushing over his "talent' and "charisma".

who is 'they' here?

Um, I don't know...maybe people who write about music and make lists of the top rappers of all time? I rarely, if ever on these lists, see a great deal of time spent on Eminem's homophobic lyrical content. If it is, it's usually accompanied by some crap about his duet with Elton and how that somehow excuses it...along with that "talent" and "charisma".

what happened?

i have no fucking clue

it's usually accompanied by some crap about his duet with Elton and how that somehow excuses it...along with that "talent" and "charisma".

I guess I missed these think pieces...?

No, balls. No.

^^^ Em and Tyler's agegnda

i mean i'll grant his homophobia doesn't completely define him (though he's obv aware and unrepentant about it being a part of his arsenal, cf roman's revenge), but it defines him more than say ice cube's issues w/ koreans defines him. that azealia banks is defined more by her bigotry is due to their being little else to define her - she had one youtube hit forever ago and she rants about gays on twitter, that's her public persona to the small segment of the public that's even aware she exists. if m.i.a had only had 'galang' and anti-gay rantings on livejournal that'd be her legacy also. that ppl even care at this point is due less to banks continuing to dig (cuz really, who still think's we're looking at a 'career artist' or whatever here?) than reddit types like juzwiak or slappy here feeling the need to defend or spin it. she's a bigot and a moron, there's no interesting takes to be plumbed from it.

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can you link to one of these lists that has eminem listed as one of the greatest rappers of all time and mentions his duet w/ elton john but doesn't mention his use of SHOCKING language. did larry king write it?

straight guy chides gay guys for not being sensitive enough to homophobia

actually that's the London Cunt in the U.S.

― 'glown' with the king (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 15 February 2013 20:04 (23 minutes ago)

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