The Return Of My Bloody Valentine

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i think "in another way" is secretly best track on the album. it creeps up on you.

polski smak (clouds), Wednesday, 13 February 2013 00:58 (thirteen years ago)

was my favourite on first listen & has remained so ever since, tbf, although 'wonder 2' is pushing it hard. both songs are astounding

Black Sabbath - violence, religious obscurantism (imago), Wednesday, 13 February 2013 01:00 (thirteen years ago)

it turns out 'is this and yes' and 'if i am' are really, really exceptional as well. have slept on those two. my god, the whole album. amazing. although 'if i am' reminds me of a serena-maneesh song

Black Sabbath - violence, religious obscurantism (imago), Wednesday, 13 February 2013 01:36 (thirteen years ago)

'don't come down here', also something a bit chapterhousey about it, but it's still goddamn wonderful

Black Sabbath - violence, religious obscurantism (imago), Wednesday, 13 February 2013 01:39 (thirteen years ago)

Deffo no DnB on this album.

I got momentarily excited at the thought, but there is none.

Jessie Fer Ark (Mobbed Up Ping Pong Psychos), Wednesday, 13 February 2013 13:55 (thirteen years ago)

has someone already received the cd/vinyl? right now there are offers at 147 euros at ebay for the cd+vinyl.

― it's the distortion, stupid! (alex in mainhattan), zaterdag 9 februari 2013 13:25 (4 days ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

I don’t think it’s being shipped for another couple of weeks.

― Chewshabadoo, zaterdag 9 februari 2013 14:53 (4 days ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

And it’s still available online too!

― Chewshabadoo, zaterdag 9 februari 2013 14:54 (4 days ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

my guess would be that cd and vinyl do not exist as yet.


from their FB:
My Bloody Valentine
there are a number of people on e bay trying to sell our album at greatly inflated prices, they do not have the album, and are, as such, selling a product that does not exist yet. please do not buy from these people. Our ship date for orders placed on our website is Feb 22nd. this is the date that finished stock will exist.

willem, Wednesday, 13 February 2013 14:20 (thirteen years ago)

I like 'wonder 2' but man it is not a fun thing to listen to in the morning

Roz, Thursday, 14 February 2013 08:18 (thirteen years ago)

chapterhouse recorded more than one album, fuck me the first one was hopeless enough

OutdoorFish, Thursday, 14 February 2013 14:09 (thirteen years ago)

although 'if i am' reminds me of a serena-maneesh song

am now thinking it's more like the outro on one of the songs from bark psychosis' 'codename: dustsucker'

Black Sabbath - violence, religious obscurantism (imago), Thursday, 14 February 2013 14:12 (thirteen years ago)

this album is extremely good btw*, and it's a grower

*would basically put it alongside Loveless

Black Sabbath - violence, religious obscurantism (imago), Thursday, 14 February 2013 14:12 (thirteen years ago)

it's good. it always seems to be over quite quickly though, in a "wait, was that it??!" kind of way.

dog latin, Thursday, 14 February 2013 14:33 (thirteen years ago)

yeah, totally. it's a good thing that ~45 minutes flies by! i think the reason that it feels short is that the last few songs, (the last two for sure) kind of veer off in a more experimental section, so the more conventional guts of the album actually concludes after 7 songs instead of the full 9.

Z S, Thursday, 14 February 2013 16:32 (thirteen years ago)

Roz, that's why have the muffs :)

OutdoorFish, Friday, 15 February 2013 18:54 (thirteen years ago)

we lol

OutdoorFish, Friday, 15 February 2013 18:55 (thirteen years ago)

Rob Sheffield wrote about the new album:

http://www.rollingstone.com/culture/blogs/pop-life/my-hundredth-listen-to-the-new-my-bloody-valentine-album-even-better-than-the-first-20130214#ixzz2L5Ezr0x0

My Hundredth Listen to the New My Bloody Valentine Album: Even Better Than the First
POSTED: February 14, 2:47 PM ET


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My Bloody Valentine performs during All Points West at Liberty State Park in New Jersey.
Bryan Bedder/Getty Images
So now we know what Bill Murray whispered to Scarlett Johansson at the end of Lost In Translation: "Don't worry – My Bloody Valentine only have another decade to go." After a couple of weeks and a hundred listens, it's pretty obvious that the new My Bloody Valentine album is even greater than we all spent years hoping. The world has waited almost 22 years, but suddenly the weirdness that MBV finally exists has been replaced by the weirdness of the album itself. The tortured backstory already seems like a footnote. Now we all have bigger questions to face, like whether "Only Tomorrow" or "New You" is the most insanely beautiful song in the universe. After 12 days of full immersion, the music sounds more mysterious, not less.

As soon as it dropped on February 2nd, just in time to make this the bloodiest Valentine's Day ever, it was easy to tell MBV was amazing. Me, I burned a disc and taped it onto both sides of a cassette so I could let it loop all day. Sometimes I play the CD, the laptop, or whatever noise-making device is at hand. But I'm not even close to using it up, because MBV is even more amazing than it originally seemed, and the hundredth listen beats the first. I don't plan to get sick of these songs until mid-October. (Except "Nothing Is," which I've pencilled in for April.)

Album Review: My Bloody Valentine, MBV

It's hard to place this music in history. Had MBV released the exact same album in 1993, "Nothing Is" would have seemed like their attempt to jack Nine Inch Nails, while "New You" would have seemed like their attempt to replace 10,000 Maniacs' "Candy Everybody Wants" in Chelsea Clinton's Walkman. It's impossible to even guess how far back the material dates. (No way could "Wonder 2" have been recorded any later than the spring of 1999 – even Bowie was through with drum-and-bass by then.) Yet that's part of the mystery.

Kevin Shields' guitar sounds sexual – in a way, his guitar is like the late Luther Vandross' voice. Both artists have an erotic signature sound that's so massive, it's a pure abstraction. Shields' guitar and Vandross' voice radiate the helplessness of love, as if they're letting themselves get totally swallowed up, as if surrendering to the hugeness of the sound is the same thing as surrendering to love. I've always liked the title of my favorite Luther record: The Best of Luther Vandross . . . The Best of Love. Obviously there's an arrogance in trying to sing in the voice of love itself, but both guys sound ego-free because their identity gets dissolved in the romance of this sound, a romance they share with their audience. (That's why not even hardcore fans seem to care about these guys' individual personalities, or their private lives.)

The album divides into three segments: the "sounds like Loveless" ones, the "sounds like Stereolab" ones, and the ones Kevin Shields was probably saving for the soundtrack of Lost In Translation 2: Havana Nights. "In Another Way" echoes the Gary Numan revival of the late 2000s, but given the way Shields works, it might be a leftover from the Gary Numan revival of the mid-1990s. "New You" leaves third-degree Blow Monkeys burns all over my brain. Yet despite the labor pains, none of MBV sounds strained or overworked. It forces you to give up any hope of consuming it in a hurry.

That's how Loveless flowed, too. It was a word-of-mouth sensation, in a more enigma-friendly era. After years of listening obsessively to Loveless, I still don't know any of the lyrics or song titles. (My favorite is called something like "When You Awake" or "What You Need" – I'd have to look it up.) It's harder to get away with that kind of mystique these days.

The 500 Greatest Albums of All Time: My Bloody Valentine, Loveless

It wasn't until around 1995 or so that the failure of this album to arrive became a worldwide joke. But most fans probably figured it could never live up to our hopes. That's how it goes with long-awaited follow-ups – most of the time, you get a Chinese Democracy. Other times you get the artist testing the waters, like Thomas Pynchon's Vineland, which came out 17 years after Gravity's Rainbow and basically functioned as a "watch this space" flier for Mason & Dixon and Against the Day.

But sometimes you get the real thing, as with James Joyce's Finnegans Wake. Like Chinese Democracy and Vineland, Finnegans Wake took 17 years, as everybody wondered how Joyce could follow a masterpiece like Ulysses. The Wake inspired a book of critical essays before it even came out, based on the "Work in Progress" fragments he published in lit mags. But when the Wake arrived, the long wait was forgotten, because it turned out to be another masterpiece that gave everyone more interesting problems. And now MBV is the new My Bloody Valentine masterpiece, ever since it arrived on February 2nd, which happens to be the same date Joyce published Ulysses in 1922, on his birthday. He was hoping to release Finnegans Wake on February 2nd as well, but it took him a few more months. (Joyce and Shields are Irish guys. Ever wait for an Irish guy to show up on time? Don't.)

Sometimes you spend your life waiting for a moment that just don't come, but then it comes, and then it isn't a moment anymore. It's part of your life, part of the world. There's something bittersweet about losing that moment. But only a moron chooses a moment over a life, just as only a moron would rather wait for the My Bloody Valentine album than listen to it. MBV isn't a work in progress now – it's just a work. And the most insanely beautiful song in the universe? Definitely "New You." Or "Only Tomorrow." No, "New You." This might take some time.

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Shin Oliva Suzuki, Saturday, 16 February 2013 17:19 (thirteen years ago)

Kevin Shields' guitar sounds sexual – in a way, his guitar is like the late Luther Vandross' voice. Both artists have an erotic signature sound that's so massive, it's a pure abstraction.

every soulless meta poster is a ✰ (Nilmar Honorato da Silva), Saturday, 16 February 2013 17:23 (thirteen years ago)

loooove the analogy

the little prince of inane false binary hype (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 16 February 2013 17:31 (thirteen years ago)

http://i.imgur.com/8aD5fCq.gif

every soulless meta poster is a ✰ (Nilmar Honorato da Silva), Saturday, 16 February 2013 17:33 (thirteen years ago)

I saw mbv live last night. They were pretty awesome - a very different beast live to on record. Seeing Kev get out an acoustic guitar and realising they were doing "Cigarette in your Bed" made me almost fall over in delight, christ it was good (they did "Slow" and "Thorn" as well - is that a common thing?).

Only one track from the new album though! Which was odd. And the "you made me realise" blast went for 15 minutes. It was like standing in an explosion. I thought I was ready for it but nothing prepares you for that headfuck.

a kissed out red popemobile (Trayce), Sunday, 17 February 2013 04:42 (thirteen years ago)

I was there too Trayce! Are you seeing them again on Friday?

monotony, Sunday, 17 February 2013 09:49 (thirteen years ago)

No I couldnt afford to buy ATP and sideshow tix (as I also got GYBE tix. too many damn shows). Its sold out now innit?

a kissed out red popemobile (Trayce), Sunday, 17 February 2013 11:10 (thirteen years ago)

I put my question to the MBV site gods, will let you know if I hear anything

Raymond Cummings, Wednesday, 20 February 2013 01:30 (thirteen years ago)

Norman Records are also selling it in the UK, at least.

useless chamber, Wednesday, 20 February 2013 07:51 (thirteen years ago)

Hmm, I wonder where Norman is getting it, their prices are a lot better than any wholesale we've been offered would allow.

NWOFHM! Overlord (krakow), Wednesday, 20 February 2013 08:13 (thirteen years ago)

could be loss leader

flaccid archives (electricsound), Wednesday, 20 February 2013 08:50 (thirteen years ago)

Could be. The wholesale we have seen is actually higher than mbv website retail price!

NWOFHM! Overlord (krakow), Wednesday, 20 February 2013 08:56 (thirteen years ago)

And now MBV is the new My Bloody Valentine masterpiece

Short version.

Mark G, Wednesday, 20 February 2013 10:13 (thirteen years ago)

question : does anyone know if the band tried to get a label to release this, or, they just thought they'd run the whole show themselves ?
or, is a label quietly involved ?

mark e, Wednesday, 20 February 2013 10:31 (thirteen years ago)

at least one interview indicated that independent release was their intention. their manager among others has label experience so i don't think they'd be short of guidance and advice in that regard

flaccid archives (electricsound), Wednesday, 20 February 2013 10:32 (thirteen years ago)

pity they didn't know a decent designer...

koogs, Wednesday, 20 February 2013 10:36 (thirteen years ago)

apparently m b v is all kevin, the rest of the band aren't on it at all, which isn't that surprising tbh

via a friend who's mates with colm and debbie.

Crackle Box, Wednesday, 20 February 2013 10:40 (thirteen years ago)

maybe that's the reason they don't play the record live (yet?!)

nostormo, Wednesday, 20 February 2013 10:41 (thirteen years ago)

debbie pretty much said in a recent interview that she's not on any of the records, at least from the first creation single onwards

flaccid archives (electricsound), Wednesday, 20 February 2013 11:02 (thirteen years ago)

rumors says she doesn't even exist!

nostormo, Wednesday, 20 February 2013 11:08 (thirteen years ago)

hahaha

flaccid archives (electricsound), Wednesday, 20 February 2013 11:08 (thirteen years ago)

she was a fucking amazing spectral non-presence on Monday night tbf

( ͡° ͜ʖ͡°) (sic), Wednesday, 20 February 2013 13:53 (thirteen years ago)

Kev sure has a high voice on some tracks.

Chewshabadoo, Wednesday, 20 February 2013 20:21 (thirteen years ago)

how to earn money with mbv:
when i tried to order the album on their site they didn't accept my credit card details three times. that's what i thought and what it said on the site. but in reality they debited the price of the album three times from my card. and credited the same amount in pounds back soon after. in the end i made a small gain as the exchange rate changed in my favour. they are such a bunch of amateurs! but at least they are honest.

it's the distortion, stupid! (alex in mainhattan), Wednesday, 20 February 2013 20:35 (thirteen years ago)

that's your credit card company handling the exchange rate. shields never saw your dollars.

caek, Wednesday, 20 February 2013 20:42 (thirteen years ago)

Haha, Alex, same happened to me. The website was a mess that night, I must have clicked 'order' a couple of times to push through. Result: I was charged six times for buying the album.

I do have to say they corrected it really, really fast. Plus they threw in a never before released to the world album Shields recorded in 1994, at the height of drum 'n bass craze.

(that last part is not true)

Le Bateau Ivre, Wednesday, 20 February 2013 20:48 (thirteen years ago)

When did he record it?

Mark G, Wednesday, 20 February 2013 20:49 (thirteen years ago)

at the height of the Ark Music craze

marc robot (seandalai), Thursday, 21 February 2013 00:47 (thirteen years ago)

What a collaboration that would be.

Chewshabadoo, Thursday, 21 February 2013 09:38 (thirteen years ago)

was it featuring Goldie (or Roni Size) ?

AlXTC from Paris, Thursday, 21 February 2013 10:54 (thirteen years ago)

They couldn't get them. Had to settle for this guy called gerald. Recorded this song that went you little wonder two, you little wonder.

OutdoorFish, Thursday, 21 February 2013 15:24 (thirteen years ago)

LOL.

Guy called Gerald would be a much better choice than those two IMO. As a point of order I don’t think he had anything to do with that Bowie stuff, apart from non-album remix.

Chewshabadoo, Thursday, 21 February 2013 16:06 (thirteen years ago)

Just received my cd of this today in the post. Debbie may not have played on the album but she did the sleeve.

Rob M Revisited, Saturday, 23 February 2013 10:39 (thirteen years ago)

So she's allowed to play live just not in the studio?

OutdoorFish, Saturday, 23 February 2013 11:50 (thirteen years ago)

Hits the strings wrong or something

OutdoorFish, Saturday, 23 February 2013 11:52 (thirteen years ago)

hahaha

she was great live last night fwiw

rave revue (electricsound), Saturday, 23 February 2013 11:56 (thirteen years ago)


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