i like lumerians a lot, but it's hard to top the original version of that song
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CS8ZfVTE4SM
― that's real banjo bro (Hunt3r), Tuesday, 12 February 2013 17:18 (eleven years ago) link
Further evidence for the theory that Arcade Fire (who I also love) have inadvertently ruined everything.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HoRkntoHkIE
― Deafening silence (DL), Tuesday, 12 February 2013 17:45 (eleven years ago) link
that's equal parts Arcade Fire and Dave Matthews, judging from the American Idol performances I caught of him
― Ima R.A.E.D. (DJP), Tuesday, 12 February 2013 17:53 (eleven years ago) link
the oh's sound distinctively coldplay to me
― that Django got me Nuages (Sufjan Grafton), Tuesday, 12 February 2013 17:55 (eleven years ago) link
Well Coldplay only stepped up the woah-oh-ohs after the first Arcade Fire album.
― Deafening silence (DL), Tuesday, 12 February 2013 17:57 (eleven years ago) link
Totally. Markus Dravs worked on "Neon Bible," which he followed by working on "Viva La Vida" as well as, later, both Mumford records. From his wiki entry:
"He has also worked with Coldplay on their 2008 album Viva la Vida or Death and All His Friends. According to Markus: "Chris Martin called me and told me he had a conversation with Win Butler, who suggested, 'He’ll kick you into shape' which was poetic for 'He will do his utmost in helping you to develop your artistic horizon.'"
Case closed.
― Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 12 February 2013 18:16 (eleven years ago) link
Or wait, does that mean Markus Dravs broke music?
― Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 12 February 2013 18:18 (eleven years ago) link
"Originally based in Ramsey, New Jersey, they later moved to New York City. After battling the city's cutthroat music scene and high cost of living, the two decided to expand their horizons. They packed up and headed for Denver, Colorado."
- wikipedia
― katherine, Tuesday, 12 February 2013 18:33 (eleven years ago) link
"He will d-ooOOoo his utm-Oh-st in helping you-oooh-OOOh to develop your artistic horiz-Oh-oh-OHHHHHHHH oh-oh oh-OHHHHHHHHHn"
― that Django got me Nuages (Sufjan Grafton), Tuesday, 12 February 2013 18:33 (eleven years ago) link
According to Markus: "Chris Martin called me and told me he had a conversation with Win Butler, who suggested, 'He’ll kick you into shape' which was poetic for 'He will do his utmost in helping you to develop your artistic horizon.'"
Good christ, an unholy trinity of horror.
― Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 12 February 2013 18:34 (eleven years ago) link
"NEEDS MORE YODELLING."
"Yeah but--"
"I AM NOT AFRAID OF YOU AND I WILL BEAT YOUR ASS."
According to Tojo: "Mussolini called me and told me he had a conversation with Hitler, who suggested, 'He’ll kick you into shape' which was poetic for 'He will do his utmost in helping you to develop your artistic horizon.'"
― that Django got me Nuages (Sufjan Grafton), Tuesday, 12 February 2013 18:36 (eleven years ago) link
good that they translate, I don't speak poetic
― katherine, Tuesday, 12 February 2013 18:55 (eleven years ago) link
It's all about cheap moves for the benefit of the cheap seats.
I could understand it all more if I could actually discern the cheap moves, or any moves at all. What confuses me is that the music seems so inert but elicits such enthusiasm. I had firsthand experience with this, wading through an unbelievably huge Mumford crowd at Bonnaroo (I was trying to get to another, much smaller stage, where Loretta Lynn was playing). I heard about 10 minutes of Mumford's set, and it was such a weird disconnect between the dead air coming from the stage and the obviously very sincere excitement of the kids on the lawn.
― something of an astrological coup (tipsy mothra), Tuesday, 12 February 2013 19:07 (eleven years ago) link
Which is to say, it obviously works for somebody. But it operates at a frequency I can't hear.
If anything I'd credit the relative lack of dead air. I've seen Mumford, too, and I was struck by how every single one of their songs featured some broad, shout-along, (frequently wordless) chorus, and wasted no time getting there. Didn't require a lot of actual listening from the crowd. In fact, when I saw them they tried to do an acoustic set mid-show, un-amplified at the front of the stage, and the fans were so loud and disruptive they pretty much had to cut it short. "I Will Wait," indeed. These dudes don't make you wait at all. There's no drama at all. The music is all bluster. Or as I once wrote in a review: "Mumford & Sons’ sophomore release “Babel” doesn’t hit any beats that its smash debut “Sigh No More” failed to hit. “Beat,” of course, being the operative word here, as Mumford & Sons’ M.O. has thus far been to over-inflate boilerplate folk and roots cliches to anthem size and beat you over the head with them."
― Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 12 February 2013 19:19 (eleven years ago) link
Yeah, I guess that's true. But it's like being beat over the head with puff balls. I barely notice it's happening.
― something of an astrological coup (tipsy mothra), Tuesday, 12 February 2013 19:22 (eleven years ago) link
woah i didn't know you were into puffing, no judgement here
― downton arby (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 12 February 2013 19:41 (eleven years ago) link
Ho (puff) Hey (puff)
― something of an astrological coup (tipsy mothra), Tuesday, 12 February 2013 19:44 (eleven years ago) link
Time for me to post. I have more to do with fashion than music, but do fashion for music peeps... Including, (for fifteen minutes (at least) the fucktards. #1. They did not show at their post grammy celebration, which leads me to believe they actually thought they had more talent than others nominated... In the Americana category, they lost to a legend and a soon to be legend... (John fullbright) and really: best new artist? Only one worse than fun. Would have been the lumineers. Keep it up guys. "Jer" you look like a carnie, Wes, you look like a semi attractive dumbass, Neyla : good gosh please stop incessantly trying to pull off the moo- moo. And for the love... Please let someone else do your hair and makeup. Kidz bopz 2012 will certainly have the more "rockin" version of "ho hey" as their fist track. Can we rename it "hey ho's (please write something original)?
― Emphilly, Wednesday, 13 February 2013 05:47 (eleven years ago) link
Also, their "timely" new Wes/Neyla duet reeks of shit and desperation, but thank goodness they got the supremely ugly dude out of it. Only thing worse than his suspenders is his "Jerry's kids" outfit for Grammys. Swallowing vomit
― Emphilly, Wednesday, 13 February 2013 05:50 (eleven years ago) link
Lumerians rule.
― alpine static, Wednesday, 13 February 2013 06:14 (eleven years ago) link
Kidz bopz 2012 will certainly have the more "rockin" version of "ho hey" as their fist track.
hahaha
― :C (crüt), Wednesday, 13 February 2013 06:24 (eleven years ago) link
There's a sociology essay out there for someone who can trace the through-line between all this campfire stadium rock, the Jesse Thorn Axis of Overly Mannered Urbane Hipsters, and Manic Pixie Dream Girls. I'm too tired to do it myself and it would just sound like conspiracy theory.
At least Too-Rye-Ay had some great songs on it.
― Elvis Telecom, Wednesday, 13 February 2013 08:38 (eleven years ago) link
Lumerians rule
Let me fix that for you...
LUMERIANS RULE!!!
ok much better
― Elvis Telecom, Wednesday, 13 February 2013 08:39 (eleven years ago) link
There's a sociology essay out there for someone who can trace the through-line between all this campfire stadium rock, the Jesse Thorn Axis of Overly Mannered Urbane Hipsters, and Manic Pixie Dream Girls.
Basically:
http://xfinity.comcast.net/blogs/tv/files/2009/05/blossom.jpg
to/plus
http://www.cinecultist.com/archives/natalie_portman_garden_state_interview_top.jpg
― Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 13 February 2013 12:58 (eleven years ago) link
Hey guys, can we play, too?!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I14nsKf1sb8
― Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 13 February 2013 21:41 (eleven years ago) link
My coworker is going to psychfest, has added lumerians to his list to see. all thanks to the lumineers.
― that's real banjo bro (Hunt3r), Wednesday, 13 February 2013 21:44 (eleven years ago) link
"Hey, Soul Sister" kinda feels like the unofficial beginning of this trend, that was really the only 'acoustic' song on pop radio besides Taylor Swift for a while before the Lumineers/Phillip Phillips/Ed Sheeran onslaught
Good call. But, for all the surprise and confusion over where the Lumineers' hobo/suspenders/dumb hats image came from, Taylor was mining the same kind of Depression Chic in her "Mean" video. You could also go back to R.E.M.'s "Losing My Religion" video, where they incorporated a mandolin and dressed up in pseudo-Amish costumes for another example of the same vibe. People trying to find some contemporary meaning ("They're dressing like hobos because their generation got screwed by the financial crisis") in the Lumineers' image need to step back and recognize that this kind of acoustic folk revival has been part of pop music since The Freewheelin' Bob Dylan, at least. Gillian Welch is a good example of a 90s artist who put forth the same sort of Dust Bowl image as the Lumineers (although she was a much better songwriter, in my opinion). But there's nothing new under the sun.
― Driver 8, Thursday, 14 February 2013 00:04 (eleven years ago) link
Eh, I dunno. There was always all that Jack Johnson hammock rock before "Hey Soul Sister."
― Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 14 February 2013 00:20 (eleven years ago) link
wtf is thishttp://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=4Cnm0tdkJEU#!
― and that sounds like a gong-concert (La Lechera), Thursday, 14 February 2013 00:27 (eleven years ago) link
dammithttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Cnm0tdkJEU
― and that sounds like a gong-concert (La Lechera), Thursday, 14 February 2013 00:28 (eleven years ago) link
You could also go back to R.E.M.'s "Losing My Religion" video, where they incorporated a mandolin and dressed up in pseudo-Amish costumes for another example of the same vibe... Gillian Welch is a good example of a 90s artist who put forth the same sort of Dust Bowl image as the Lumineers (although she was a much better songwriter, in my opinion) --Driver 8
straight trollin'
― inste grammophon (rogermexico.), Thursday, 14 February 2013 03:02 (eleven years ago) link
it's funny that there have now been 6 different posters using the phrase "old timey" itt but nobody has traced this trend back to the O Brother, Where Art Thou? soundtrack at all yet.
yeah, I was gonna say. these dudes were like 18 when that movie came out. formative experience obviously.
― wk, Thursday, 14 February 2013 04:26 (eleven years ago) link
blimey @ the article linked in the OP
― monotony, Thursday, 14 February 2013 04:30 (eleven years ago) link
Yeah, 'codswallop' is too kind a word, really.
― Ned Raggett, Thursday, 14 February 2013 04:38 (eleven years ago) link
― Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, February 13, 2013 7:20 PM (4 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
well i was talking about like top 40 radio -- Jack Johnson never had a "Hey Soul Sister" or "Ho Hey"-level pop hit, and when he did peaked it was around the James Blunt era of acoustic hits, before the lull and recent influx of acoustic stuff.
― BIG REUSS aka the fun.driver (some dude), Thursday, 14 February 2013 04:41 (eleven years ago) link
One of the guys, Espen, who's like a huge star in Norway, picked up a ukulele, and said, 'Hey, how about this?' I said, 'Are you (kidding) me?' And it made the difference. It made my words dance. It made sense. These words were meant to dance with ukulele and not guitar.
― brimstead, Thursday, 14 February 2013 04:44 (eleven years ago) link
Where do Of Monsters & Men fit in this mess?
― Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 14 February 2013 04:49 (eleven years ago) link
right in the middle of the current trend, "Little Talks" broke through pretty well to pop radio, if not as much as the Lumineers
― BIG REUSS aka the fun.driver (some dude), Thursday, 14 February 2013 04:54 (eleven years ago) link
really wish the Shins hadn't changed anybody's lives
― :C (crüt), Thursday, 14 February 2013 06:51 (eleven years ago) link
Do any of these bands even acknowledge the No Depression movement?
― Elvis Telecom, Thursday, 14 February 2013 19:25 (eleven years ago) link
No Depression bands were rarely so into artifice. Remember, what made them "alt" country in the first place was really just them turning their back on costumes and polish.
― Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 14 February 2013 20:22 (eleven years ago) link
At least with historical hobbyists like Civil War re-enactors and the Society for Creative Anachronism, there's an sincere intensity to their goofiness. I mean, who am I to argue against a 20 year old having a HFS moment with a Woody Guthrie record and wanting to tell you about it. What bothers me about the Lumineers and their ilk is the amount of empty calories they spew out. I'm convinced they were grown in vats or bodysnatched by interstellar seed pods.
― Elvis Telecom, Thursday, 14 February 2013 22:31 (eleven years ago) link
Someone (may have been another comedian) described Dane Cook's act as ninety minutes of shouting "YEAHHHH! THAT'S RIGHT!" repeatedly. Get the same feeling here.
― Elvis Telecom, Thursday, 14 February 2013 22:39 (eleven years ago) link
but with long dresses and suspenders and ukeleles
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 14 February 2013 22:40 (eleven years ago) link
My first exposure to this band was when Paul Krugman posted live videos on his blog.
― Mike Dixn, Saturday, 16 February 2013 19:24 (eleven years ago) link
That was a sentence I didn't need to read.
― Ned Raggett, Saturday, 16 February 2013 19:58 (eleven years ago) link
NIGHTMARES FOR DAYS.
― Ned Raggett, Saturday, 16 February 2013 20:00 (eleven years ago) link
my sister informed me tonight that her dog has a heavy response to "ho hey" ... so there's that.
― tylerw, Sunday, 17 February 2013 02:54 (eleven years ago) link