AlXTC from Paris called the Pope a has-been last week, and look what happened to him.
― brogue element (seandalai), Monday, 11 February 2013 17:06 (eleven years ago) link
Time for an Unplugged EP.
― a tidy profit in Russia (Eazy), Monday, 11 February 2013 17:13 (eleven years ago) link
ahah. the thing is I really like JT and quite excited by this !but I'm just trying to take some perspective and see that JT is not the huge star he was in 2006 anymore (7 years, that's the whole beatles' career !)?
― AlXTC from Paris, Monday, 11 February 2013 17:14 (eleven years ago) link
to stay with the beatles comparison, Lennon was releasing mind games by 32.and MJ was releasing dangerous.both nice albums... but far from their respective peaks !
― AlXTC from Paris, Monday, 11 February 2013 17:19 (eleven years ago) link
he kept in the public eye pretty well with movies/SNL/occasional collaborations. he still has the starpower to be huge in 2013, it's just a matter of whether he'll be held back by apparently having zero new ideas in the last 6 years or any inclination to catch up with the times or present anything especially fresh or exciting.
― BIG REUSS aka the fun.driver (some dude), Monday, 11 February 2013 17:19 (eleven years ago) link
I don't think Bieber is more exciting than JT because I have absolutely zero expectations for Bieber. He's no more exciting than any other pop automaton.
exactly the same sort of thing that would have been written about timberlake at bieber's age (while his own age-limited demographic were going mental at nsync shows)
― lex pretend, Monday, 11 February 2013 17:20 (eleven years ago) link
someone tweeted earlier that they think timberlake still doesn't have any burning desire to return to music, he's only here because myspace flopped. JT coming back with a great album was (and might still be) just as likely as JT coming back with a dud, i don't think comebacks follow any "rules" as such. but he gave every indication that the long hiatus was down to disinterest in the first place, and laying ~renewed interest~ on so thick in that first teaser clip should have rung some alarm bells in retrospect.
― lex pretend, Monday, 11 February 2013 17:23 (eleven years ago) link
not to derail thread but I can't imagine calling Dangerous "nice"
― the little prince of inane false binary hype (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 11 February 2013 17:24 (eleven years ago) link
also roz otm on the evidence presented to us over the past year bieber is making WAY more exciting music than timberlake
alxtc you should listen to "as long as you love me" and "boyfriend"
― lex pretend, Monday, 11 February 2013 17:25 (eleven years ago) link
I don't think Bieber is more exciting than JT because I have absolutely zero expectations for Bieber. He's no more exciting than any other pop automaton.exactly the same sort of thing that would have been written about timberlake at bieber's age (while his own age-limited demographic were going mental at nsync shows)
otm.although, again, I have never heard a bieber song (thanks for the suggestions, Lex, thoug !).
― AlXTC from Paris, Monday, 11 February 2013 17:28 (eleven years ago) link
well, personally, I have never liked this album (and I was a HUUUGE MJ fan when I was a kid and Thriller was released).But since many people seem to like it, I just put "nice" to not get into arguments about that !
― AlXTC from Paris, Monday, 11 February 2013 17:31 (eleven years ago) link
Fair enough. I still think Bieber comes off like a total doorknob, though. JT never seemed like a total doofus moron, and c. "Celebrity" he was getting tons of credit for N*Sync's best moments - literally, too, since he's all over the songwriting, and not bundled along with a half dozen collaborator cushions like the Beeb is. Granted, it took "Justified" to really anchor him as a creative force, but he at least seemed like he was building toward that. If anything, Bieber seems to be getting dumber and less ambitious. But maybe he'll blossom into a grown-ass man.
― Josh in Chicago, Monday, 11 February 2013 17:33 (eleven years ago) link
JT never seemed like a total doofus moron
pls revisit the 'nsync videography
― emo canon in twee major (BradNelson), Monday, 11 February 2013 17:35 (eleven years ago) link
JT has never really stopped seeming like a doofus moron, just one with better hair
― lex pretend, Monday, 11 February 2013 17:36 (eleven years ago) link
Bieber's whole career is based upon setting up as many Timberlake parallels as possible and it's all kind of unconvincing and sad, most of all because that's probably not what appeals to his fanbase and they should just let him take his own path. JT's arc worked for him because it was a little unprecedented (or at least didn't feel like some kind of transparent aping of George Michael's career or whatever) and felt like him being himself and following his passion.
― BIG REUSS aka the fun.driver (some dude), Monday, 11 February 2013 17:38 (eleven years ago) link
his "passion"? hmmmm. it was a convincing move but even at the time it was a pretty obvious way to transition to a credible, adult career out of a teenpop one (and v much in line with what britney had been doing already)
bieber's yet to make a song that makes me care about HIM, but a couple of pretty great bangers is a good first step
― lex pretend, Monday, 11 February 2013 17:43 (eleven years ago) link
xposting I mean in interviews and how he carries himself. JT seems like a doofus, but a charming doofus, with some degree (real or affected) of humility, and not a moron. Bieber is a doofus, but an unctuous, irritating one, because he is a moron.
― Josh in Chicago, Monday, 11 February 2013 17:44 (eleven years ago) link
Like, when Timberlake won that video award over Johnny Cash, then demanded a recount or whatever and talked about how much he admired Cash? I would not be shocked if Bieber had no idea who Johnny Cash was.
― Josh in Chicago, Monday, 11 February 2013 17:46 (eleven years ago) link
“Thank you. (Cheers and applause) Um, this is a travesty. I demand a recount. And I just want to say two things real quick. It’s an honor to be in a category with people like Eminem and 50 Cent and people that I admire. John Mayer as well. But also my grandfather raised me on Johnny Cash. I’m from Tennessee. (Cheers and applause) and I think he deserves this more than any of us in here tonight. So I guess in some cool way I share this award with him. He deserves a round of applause. Thank you MTV. Thank you.”
― Josh in Chicago, Monday, 11 February 2013 17:48 (eleven years ago) link
You were recently on an ad during the Super Bowl break with Ozzy Osborne. Any advice from the Prince of Darkness? Jane Playdon, London “He…(Laughs) not really. Usher’s given me advice. He said to have fun with what I’m doing, and always don’t take myself to seriously and Drake told me to make sure I behave. But Ozzy was a nice guy. He’s settled down a lot over the years (smiles). But I like Black Sabbath, you know, some of the stuff. I like – what is it – School’s Out For Summer? (Q points out that it’s not by Black Sabbath) He did that song! (Q says it’s by Alice Cooper) No, he did that song! I like rock music, man. I like Guns N’Roses and Metallica. The Beatles. I like (Metallica’s) Fade To Black, and One. It’s edgy and emotional with those instruments and electric guitars and stuff.”
“He…(Laughs) not really. Usher’s given me advice. He said to have fun with what I’m doing, and always don’t take myself to seriously and Drake told me to make sure I behave. But Ozzy was a nice guy. He’s settled down a lot over the years (smiles). But I like Black Sabbath, you know, some of the stuff. I like – what is it – School’s Out For Summer? (Q points out that it’s not by Black Sabbath) He did that song! (Q says it’s by Alice Cooper) No, he did that song! I like rock music, man. I like Guns N’Roses and Metallica. The Beatles. I like (Metallica’s) Fade To Black, and One. It’s edgy and emotional with those instruments and electric guitars and stuff.”
― Josh in Chicago, Monday, 11 February 2013 17:50 (eleven years ago) link
lol see that's the part that depresses me - I don't know, this might be unfair on Bieber, but I don't attribute his best work to him the way I do for Timberlake. I think a lot of the good songs that Bieber's recorded so far seem like happy accidents rather than sounds that he specifically pursued, whereas with JT it was very obvious what he wanted to do when he went solo (I've always seen NSYNC's breakup as a result of creative differences btw - there's that tension on 'Celebrity' with JT going urban/R&B and JC going more towards 2-step/dance music).
JT has always showed at the very least, a really good ear for pop music and I don't think I buy the idea that that goes away as soon as you hit your 30s. I just think a lot of what we've been hearing so far this year sounds really lazy and he knows better.
― Roz, Monday, 11 February 2013 17:54 (eleven years ago) link
Lots of young people know JOHNNY CASH is the name of a Famous Person; it may not mean familiarity with his music.
― the little prince of inane false binary hype (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 11 February 2013 17:58 (eleven years ago) link
If JT says his grandfather raised him on Johnny Cash, I have a feeling he is familiar with his music.
― Josh in Chicago, Monday, 11 February 2013 18:00 (eleven years ago) link
plus never forget:
http://i.huffpost.com/gen/291929/JUSTIN-TIMBERLAKE.jpg
― the little prince of inane false binary hype (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 11 February 2013 18:01 (eleven years ago) link
Doofus!
BTW, did JT '13 get his hair straightened?
― Josh in Chicago, Monday, 11 February 2013 18:01 (eleven years ago) link
haha
I like his current hair btw, best he's looked in a while
― Roz, Monday, 11 February 2013 18:06 (eleven years ago) link
He looked great last night. The music was another story.
― Ulna (Nicole), Monday, 11 February 2013 19:43 (eleven years ago) link
eh as soon as Justin started writing N Sync songs they were leaning in an R&B direction (and not just Britney-style Neptunes production = R&B influence shorthand). i think he does like R&B and what his solo career sounds like than the early N Sync sound or, like, some pop/rock type sound he could've gone with a la Nick Carter.
― BIG REUSS aka the fun.driver (some dude), Monday, 11 February 2013 20:17 (eleven years ago) link
I don't like the idea that Timberlake "matured," as if adult = mature. He really hasn't changed much since "Gone."
― the little prince of inane false binary hype (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 11 February 2013 20:22 (eleven years ago) link
10 years ago we had bob hope, steve jobs and a pop sensation who was aware of johnny cash. now we have no hope, no jobs and justin bieber
― d'eejban (J0rdan S.), Monday, 11 February 2013 23:27 (eleven years ago) link
The problem might be Timbaland, but for the moment this is off to a poor start.
― Van Horn Street, Tuesday, 12 February 2013 00:08 (eleven years ago) link
new song is pretty great, the one from the grammy's last night was horse shit
― 乒乓, Tuesday, 12 February 2013 01:28 (eleven years ago) link
'suit and tie' is becoming p unimpeachable
Josh in Chicago killin it ITT
― available for sporting events (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Tuesday, 12 February 2013 01:40 (eleven years ago) link
i thought "Pusher Love Girl" sounded pretty good and "Suit & Tie" just gets worse and worse
― BIG REUSS aka the fun.driver (some dude), Tuesday, 12 February 2013 01:46 (eleven years ago) link
i kinda love "mirrors"... i think it's a really fantastic vocal performance
― J0rdan S., Thursday, 21 February 2013 03:59 (eleven years ago) link
i really can't even begin to give a fuck about another "cry me a river"/"what goes around" type song
― some dude, Thursday, 21 February 2013 04:01 (eleven years ago) link
it genuinely bums me out that THAT is the quickie 2nd single hail mary to "Suit & Tie"
i'm honestly not even sure why i think this, but i think "cry me a river" and "what goes around" are so distinctive that i'm okay with the idea of them adding to them for a sort of trilogy thing. i def initially felt like they were just playing out the formula or whatever but i think this song is pretty good on its own and idk i guess i've just really warmed to the idea of them making that song again.
― J0rdan S., Thursday, 21 February 2013 04:05 (eleven years ago) link
also, again, i think it's a really fantastic vocal performance
i think it's a octology or something once you factor in all the songs justin has written/produced in that template
― some dude, Thursday, 21 February 2013 04:09 (eleven years ago) link
i will have to go back to "mirrors" with a fresh set of ears at some point though
― some dude, Thursday, 21 February 2013 04:10 (eleven years ago) link
maybe it's also that i'm not really feeling the direction of "suit & tie"/"pusher love girl" so i'm just gobbling this wheelhouse shit up
― J0rdan S., Thursday, 21 February 2013 04:11 (eleven years ago) link
i think jt does the best he can with the sub-chris cornell scream guitar arpeggio that tim provides
― emo canon in twee major (BradNelson), Thursday, 21 February 2013 04:16 (eleven years ago) link
lmao you took it there
― some dude, Thursday, 21 February 2013 04:19 (eleven years ago) link
the guitar sounds like so much dogshit
i can't even with this song
― emo canon in twee major (BradNelson), Thursday, 21 February 2013 04:21 (eleven years ago) link
if "strawberry bubblegum" and "spaceship coupe" are bad i'm gonna be heartbroken
― J0rdan S., Thursday, 21 February 2013 04:24 (eleven years ago) link
i could take them rewriting the same song for the millionth time (lol at "trilogy") if they'd bothered to write a melody as affecting as "rehab" (which was a good song despite the formula being way played out even then)
― lex pretend, Thursday, 21 February 2013 10:40 (eleven years ago) link
at this point i'll just be happy if we get a couple of legit decent jams off this album
i have mirrors going in my headphones now and i'm having trouble making myself pay attention to it.
― goole, Thursday, 21 February 2013 16:40 (eleven years ago) link