Rolling Stones: Classic or Dud

Forgot his house burned down. And didn't he totally stick it to MCA, and win?

Haha yes -- the Annie Lennox anecdote compensated for some boring solo albums. Scott, what about his George stories? Petty's still in awe of the Wilbury period

so much Petty talk on ILM lately

yeah man he really loved george. they loved esch other.

and dylan begging him to keep touring with him. sorry, bob, my house burnt down and i'm one of the most popular performers on earth...

where is the other petty talk? i could talk petty all day. apparently.

the downside of doing a lot of coke and partying with dave stewart:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S3eQ5lxH-rc

damn that petty book sounds fun.
Have you seen the Peter Bogdanivich(sp) doc? Long and fun.

the downside of doing a lot of coke and partying with dave stewart:

Yeah, but that was the thing in the mid/late-80s. Springsteen had a couple of 12"s like that, with added vocals and Simmons drums, and I'm pretty sure he was straight-edge.

Petty and the Stones, Petty and Springsteen, Petty ballot poll ... I've only opened about three threads this weekend and he's cropped up on all of them. I assume every other thread must be the same.

the petty book is great but the guy who put it together or whoever was editing him left in tons of repetitions for some reason. don't know why. where tom will say someone was a great guy like five times in a response when you only really need him to say it once. don't think tom would have cared. but, like i said, addictive. if you are a fan. i just love Q&A more than about anything.

ah! i don't see polls. i have them hidden.

there was a Dave Stewart "documentary" on cable recently that was really horrible. Terrible music, insufferable person.

i like the arthur baker springsteen things. dave stewart remix is...something else.

dave and tom got along really well. and when they decided to sit down and write a smash hit - that's what they were trying to do - they wrote don't come around here no more. which is pretty cool. and dave had 70's rural rock roots. and tom thought he was a really good guitarist and sounding board and writing partner. he didn't like some of the things he did in the studio though. like the canned 80's horns. and the video for don't come around here was dave's idea and tom doesn't like that people will always think of that video when they hear the song.

Zollo inexplicably divides periods and albums.

Petty HATES "Make It Better."

Yeah, but he played it on that tour. Horn section and everything.

someone brought in the mudcrutch album a while back and i didn't listen to the whole thing and it didn't really hit me until i watched the promo studio videos and now i want that album too. it might still be at the store.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HlYeq5f9lqM

That Petty book made me check out the very underrated Let Me Up (I've Had Enough)

yeah i was playing that the other day. sounded cool. his 80's and 90's stuff sounds good to me in general lately. oh and i don't think i knew that dylan came up with the eddie murphy/vanessa redgrave/joe piscopo line.

so in a way i guess dylan gave tom some crytpo-political thing by including vanessa. the whole palestine situation.

I can't find it, but there's a clip of Eddie Murphy saying "Fuck Tom Petty."

was relieved he loves "It'll All Work Out" as much as I do.

i love the part in the book when he was doing the wilburys thing and having the time of his life and the rest of the band...? mike writing and producing boys of summer for don henley and the rest of the band winning a grammy for best country album? only in america. and mike played everything on boys of summer. which again i don't think i knew.

and Benmont produced that great John Prine record!

right! grammy for that. the country thing might have been something else. maybe the carlene carter thing? i can't remember. but there is a country grammy in there somewhere.

Benmont was on a ton of records in the late 80s/early 90s...I mostly remember him playing a significant role on the "Replacements" (because it's really a Westerberg solo record) All Shook Down. But dude was in demand.

Those guys are second only to the E Street Band in expert studio indenturehood.

George Harrison comes off SO much better as songwriter-producer-personality in Petty's rendering than he ever did in life, which is why the Scorsese documentary, among other reasons, fails.

mick taylor and billy preston and bill wyman didn't write shit. i'm sure lots of people came up with ideas or riffs though.

― scott seward, Sunday, February 10, 2013 3:

not to interrupt our awesome T-Petty conversation but without Jagger telling me it's clear Mick Taylor wrote the music to "Moonlight Mile." Mick is singing along to Taylor's riff and Keef ain't credited with anything.

oooone song

a brilliant song

but let's not throw keith out with the bathwater

we can a few times. "Sway" too.

^^^

George Harrison comes off SO much better as songwriter-producer-personality in Petty's rendering than he ever did in life, which is why the Scorsese documentary, among other reasons, fails.
― the little prince of inane false binary hype (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn)

I won't be reading the Petty book, so can you please say a little bit more about the description of George? (Thanks!)

Sardonic, generous, avid about collaboration, ego-free about sharing credits. Also, a superb dinner and drink companion.

Ugh, that Scorsese doc was such crap. Thanks for the summary!

well i certainly wouldn't want to take anything away from LEGENDARY SONGWRITER mick taylor. what was he 12 when he joined the band as a hired hand?

yeah, man, tom just adored george. in a big way. but he also adored jeff lynne and rick rubin, so i dunno...

actually i have no idea what jeff lynne is like maybe he's the nicest guy in the world.

I want to believe Jagger hit on him.

watched this like 20 times the other day...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6SFNW5F8K9Y

I've written about this elsewhere but the awesome/sad thing about George is how the Wilburys nurtured and encouraged his genuine talents in ways that the Beatles didn't. I can't imagine what a drag it must have been to sit around a studio with Paul a few years later and feel the old tension (which is why he insisted Jeff Lynne act as mediator).

yeah its just cool to read TP's accounts of the wilburys cuz you get this really excited george who is REALLY having fun and into the whole thing. instead of the usual george stuff. the boring mystical rich guy george. but he was having a confident moment. he had a number one solo song and a huge album and all that. he was ready for action.

and the other four Wilburys in awe of Roy Orbison and actively working for a commercial comeback for him

shit and i need the she's the one soundtrack too. i heard that in a record store years ago and really liked it. luckily the cover doesn't have assface mcmullan on it. that's like an entire tom petty album and most people have never heard it.

good Beck cover too!

...and Lucinda Williams!

YES

Wildflowers was the last time he held Gen X commercial cred, but it was so cool to have him selling records into 1995 instead of Steve Winwood.

Wasn't Dave Grohl his drummer on the Wildflowers tour?

One cool fact I remember reading about the recording of "You Don't know How it Feels" was that the band was having a hard time finding a drummer after having Stan Lynch quit/fire and went through a dozen drummers trying to cut that tune. Steve Ferrone comes in and the first take, not hearing the song ever before, nails the take that got released. I guess Petty & Co. were surprised that Ferrone being such a big studio drummer was actually interested in joining the band, as alot of those type guys don't really want to commit to a band that tours that much.