The Return Of My Bloody Valentine

Damn right.

It moves, it swells, you can turn it up and up and up and it just envelopes you, gets bigger and wider and clearer without ever getting uncomfortable.

sounds somewhat erotic..lol

its maxed, dude

Are you listening through your phone? Get a better amp!

Wonder 2 was stuck in my head today - the chord-sequence, psychedelic and beatific, launching into a glorious and slightly incomprehensible future - the skittering, untameable drums - the guitars trying to keep up and sometimes succeeding - brilliant, brilliant song.

like yes i can turn the shit up thx for the tip but then going to any other album in itunes i have to adjust it back down.

And this is why most albums sound shit sonically in the 21st century.

I swear I couldn't tell the difference between the analogue and non-analogue versions of Loveless
― global tetrahedron, Tuesday, February 5, 2013 1:28 PM

neither did i, i think ppl are kidding themselves here

― ☏ (am0n), Tuesday, 5 February 2013 18:34 (2 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Well,I expected no difference, but I wouldn't bother with the old DAT mastered version now

Don’t forget that some copies where mis-labelled.

Yeah there's no way I had to blast this on full as long as I used my good audiotechnica heaphones. On my shite old broken sornys it sounded really quiet and muddy. Its so odd, the difference it makes!

Is it not deliberately quiet? It gets noticeably louder during Nothing Is and stays that way. To make that happen, you'd have to have been quiet to start with.

Its certainly got nice dynamic range compared to Loveless.

why not wait for the gimmicky Valentine's day release,

the way the site fucked up as it is, you think it would have gone more smoothly when they were on tour on the other side of the planet?

I love the new album and I'm thinking back to the other night in Brixton. I was drunk but it seemed I couldn't tell what a few of the songs were. I think the band recognised there was serious problems with the sound - but ever since the first reunion gigs I've thought you really can't tell what they're playing very well UNLESS you know the songs, the vocal melodies etc. beforehand.

Maybe the gigs will change. The "holocaust" (ugh) was very short at Brixton. Hopefully they'll move on. I'd love if they turned down from 11.

the coolest thing seeing them last time wasn't how loud it was - though that was obviously focal because of how loud it was - but just how good it sounded. & it is edifying to hear kevin so enthusiastic about that side of things, having enough money to get a PA that meets their needs, &c. i was just remembering going to an atp they curated & getting to see all the other groups who played on their bill play through their system - so like dinosaur jr sounding just deeply loud & heavy.

That 2nd room at ATP Minehead could sound great - esp. when Portishead played there and pretty much destroyed me. That might be the best sound at a gig I've ever heard. But MBV didn't really do it for me that much there. I guess it was because I saw them play at the ICA a week or so before - a small white box room - for the first time in my life and... well, that blew me away.

I'd love to read stories of people seeing them in the late 80's - or even the tour the did with Blur & DJR & JAMC?

aw i was at those ica shows. they hadn't figured out the sound so they just sounded like a mega heavy garage band. so thrashy. i meant the upstate new york atp, fwiw.

def read mike mcgonigal's 33 1/3 book if you haven't, btw, for stories about the '80s shows

Saw them a few times 89-91, most memorable was as part of a short tour to support the Glider EP, at Glasgow College of Building & Printing. They weren't super loud, sound was great and an abstract b/w film was shown during "Soon". What made it memorable though was some guy at the front kept on shouting out for "Lovelee Sweet Darlene" loudly between each song, much to bemusement of crowd and band. At the end of the gig they came out for an unexpected encore and proceeded to play "Lovelee Sweet Darlene" super loud and at half speed. haha.

I wanna hear that!

Haha yeah THAT era's stuff I would love to hear. I noticed ages back up thread someone mentioned they'd been told never to bother listening to the pre-Isnt anything stuff, and I was completely WTF at that and meant to say something. At the very least "Ecstacy and Wine" is brilliant, but I really love the original jangle stuff too. "Sunny Sundae Smile" is irresistable!

I love Strawberry Wine (the song), no matter how in-tune it was with the current music of the day or that which led up to that period.

LAWL artwork shenanigans:

http://www.last.fm/music/My+Bloody+Valentine/m+b+v

Aw shit its been removed already. Someone had vandalised it to include the blue dude from Arrested Development >_<

http://musicfeeds.com.au/album/my-bloody-valentine-m-b-v/

this was disappointing at first (hard not to be) but i'm slowly coming around to it. "only tomorrow" is massive

OK why are people like that getting published in music review zine/blogs and I'm bloody not. That was so terrible I think it gave me cancer /Calculon.

"this band I dont know anything about sound like someting else I clearly have no clue of and hey this is kind of kooky!". vom.

loool ellis

whoops rong thread

sixties reflux

Haha yeah that "phrase" jumped out at me too.

Yeah, MBV, give it up, you'll never reach the giddy heights of Tame Impala.

an atypical acid trip

"is this and yes" sounds good 1/2 speed

9.1

inches or feet

posting this with full awareness of how terrible it is to be so wounded by a stray line in a p4k review but:

But since Isn't Anything, drums have been down on the list of concerns for MBV, which is one way the final third is so surprising and ultimately powerful.

this is so off, to me, & is a corollary of the mbv narrative arc way more than it is based on close reading of the records. i have been thinking a bunch about isn't anything since this came out, how propulsive its drums are & how interesting colm is, for reducing the idea of drumroll punctuation to just tense, spasmodic snare drum abuse. that they're a weird aspect of the last couple of records doesn't make them of minimal concern - both live & synthesised they're a really big part of those two records.

Has the mis-labelled Loveless remaster discs thing been sorted? How about the glitch in the penultimate track of the analogue (labelled as digital) remaster?

switched to my headphones i usually only use when djing and it did the trick. wish i'd been listening this way for the last few days.

Yeah I'm really fascinated how *different* the whole sound and feel of it is with good audio. Not sure if thats a good or bad thing?

My Loveless discs are correctly labelled - I can clearly hear the glitch on the digital disc, disc 1.

I'm thinking back to the other night in Brixton. I was drunk but it seemed I couldn't tell what a few of the songs were. I think the band recognised there was serious problems with the sound - but ever since the first reunion gigs I've thought you really can't tell what they're playing very well UNLESS you know the songs, the vocal melodies etc. beforehand. Maybe the gigs will change. The "holocaust" (ugh) was very short at Brixton. Hopefully they'll move on. I'd love if they turned down from 11

I felt a bit like this at The Roundhouse in 2008. It was amazing to see them live again after so much time, but it was just absurdly loud (my ears were fucked for a day or two afterwards) and sometimes it would take me one or two minutes to work out what song I was listening to.

I'd love to read stories of people seeing them in the late 80's - or even the tour the did with Blur & DJR & JAMC?

I saw them a couple of times around Nov/Dec 91 and then again on that Rollercoaster thing with Blur/JAMC/Dinosaur Jr in Mar/Apr(?) 92. It's very difficult to compare because there's so much time between, but I remember thinking the gigs were great at the time and I don't recall hearing damage / tune identification being such a problem then.

Loudness query: are we saying even with good earplugs (not just crap foam ones) the ears will get fucked over? i already have damaged hearing and tbh I am *really* worried, haha.

i've been pretty content w/ my audio technica agh m50's for the past ~year or so and despite the slew of electronica i listen to, it's only this album that makes me want to jump for an upgrade. this says nothing of "m b v" apart from fact that it's been a damn while since i've been so excited about hearing nuances and probably speaks for the record, and this band in general, in sense that you find the sounds - the crackle in "only tomorrow", the underlying sighs in "if i am", whatever the hell i could or could not be missing in "wonder 2" - they manufacture as equally interesting as the songs themselves. no other group does that for me.

you know how packets of peanuts have to by law feature 'Warning: May Contain Nuts' ....

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Nate - the glitch is meant to be on the analogue master, not the digital one. So if disc one glitches, your set is mislabelled.

like, it's going to sound ridiculous but i think one of my favorite part of "only tomorrow" just might be that 1 second violin-burst at 1:55. it's appearance is so solitary yet so fitting as a subtle yet declarative transition it just oh my god

Kraudive, the sound was pretty bad in Brixton, but they only played one new track.

like, it's going to sound ridiculous but i think one of my favorite part of "only tomorrow" just might be that 1 second violin-burst at 1:55. it's appearance is so solitary yet so fitting as a subtle yet declarative transition it just oh my god

― kelpolaris

this is perfectly reasonable

Trayce, I remember them being very loud when I saw them in Manchester last time, even with my earplugs, but I was tempted at the Brixton gig to take them out.