The Return Of My Bloody Valentine

I came here to say what Mark G said.

I've been listening to m b v since Sunday morning; on headphones, car speakers, regular speakers.

Then I took out the REMASTERED ANALOGUE version of Loveless. Sonically, m b v makes more sense this way; not so with the first mastering of Loveless or the CD remastering. Both have their charm and purpose, but from what I've read, I always interpreted Shields's words as favouring the remastered analogue version.

I swear I couldn't tell the difference between the analogue and non-analogue versions of Loveless, but I think I got a dodgy torrent or something because people all say the analogue is obviously superior. I have decent speakers and a good ear, or maybe I only thought I did...

I swear I couldn't tell the difference between the analogue and non-analogue versions of Loveless
― global tetrahedron, Tuesday, February 5, 2013 1:28 PM

neither did i, i think ppl are kidding themselves here

also this "new" album is just loveless outtakes

A quick practical note: I couldn't get the direct-purchased MP3s to work on my (non-Apple) player, and noticed some weird behaviour in things like VLC too - hanging, odd blank space in the scroll bar etc. Mentioned this to a friend, and he'd had similar problems; he did some tinkering and discovered that, for reasons best known to Kev, the MP3 tags included a 3MB version of the album art for each file. I'd wondered why they were so huge, and this explains why my Flash based player was struggling. Used mp3tag to strip these elements out, and all fine.

"Chinese Democracy"

LOL that is perhaps the most insane revelation on this thread yet!

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I played both versions back-to-back, with direct "5 seconds on one album" and another few seconds of the other and, yes, I could tell the difference. Some parts are more subtle than others. If I was at a get-together and heard the album in loud speakers, I don't think I would be able to say, "Shit, man, that's the REMASTERED ANALOGUE version of Loveless!"

Shields has said himself it's more of the sensation and feeling you get listening to it. As a person who has recorded in studios (on analogue and digitally), I have to agree. There is no other way to explain it. That's why you get more into it in good smallish speakers in smallish rooms or on a good pair of cans.

IMHO

I'm really satisfied with this album.

i wish the 320 mp3s were louder. will try w/ the WAV files tonite :-[

I doubt the wavs would be any louder. Seems like they'd just have a cleaner high end.

they are mastered fairly low too

LOL that is perhaps the most insane revelation on this thread yet!

^^^
lol

i wish maresa elliene or whatever she is called now would record a track called 'opinions about my bloody valentine on the internet'

Er, dude turn the volume dial?

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<i>I'm really satisfied with this album.</i>

I wholeheartedly agree. Never expected anything this good.

Damn,, BBCode...

Er, dude turn the volume dial?

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― Chewshabadoo, Tuesday, February 5, 2013 9:15 AM (19 minutes ago)

its maxed, dude

and switching over to my 320kps copy of Loveless its immediately louder

Great!

Bill A - thanks for that revelation, explains why my Sansa Clip struggles with the new Yo La Tengo - there's a 9MB image on those.

i wish the 320 mp3s were louder
― ❏❐❑❒ (gr8080), Tuesday, February 5, 2013 2:08 PM

agreeeeed. like yes i can turn the shit up thx for the tip but then going to any other album in itunes i have to adjust it back down. i guess he didn't want his 22yr old baby louderized

loaded it up in audacity to check; looks like the only tracks that come even close to peaking are the last two.

so yeah, the record could have been louder. except for those two tracks.

I have to say I would pay dear money for a written account of the making of this album, esp the final stretch. So many questions - why not wait for the gimmicky Valentine's day release, why the surprise drop and did KS really not know the exact day of release a week ago? The way the album arrived seemed so improvised, considering the wait and the perfectionism of its creator - just wondering how much of that was for show

yeah it ramps up on those last 2 xp

baaderonix otm

the wavs were loud enough imo

I was 6 when loveless came out so although I think these guys are ok I never like got my head wrecked by the dreamwave revolution or whatevs. Having listened to this a few times though I have to say I'm won over by how pretty it is. Starting about halfway thru the second track I keep getting a strong feeling of "man I wish I was on €¢$ta$y right now", which is about the last thing I expected.

did anyone else noticed the lack of concrete nouns in the song-titles (except for "you" "she" and "i"?

i guess that's true for Loveless too

If you think it's not loud enough, buy a better amplifier.

is there an app for that

You should stand closer to the speaker

gr8080 be careful don't damage your hearing

what?

sorry.

if he ever was in a MBV gig it's too late

agreeeeed. like yes i can turn the shit up thx for the tip but then going to any other album in itunes i have to adjust it back down.

Have you tried:
http://mp3gain.sourceforge.net/

?

I wish more albums were mastered like this.

Damn right.

It moves, it swells, you can turn it up and up and up and it just envelopes you, gets bigger and wider and clearer without ever getting uncomfortable.

sounds somewhat erotic..lol

its maxed, dude

Are you listening through your phone? Get a better amp!

Wonder 2 was stuck in my head today - the chord-sequence, psychedelic and beatific, launching into a glorious and slightly incomprehensible future - the skittering, untameable drums - the guitars trying to keep up and sometimes succeeding - brilliant, brilliant song.

like yes i can turn the shit up thx for the tip but then going to any other album in itunes i have to adjust it back down.

And this is why most albums sound shit sonically in the 21st century.

I swear I couldn't tell the difference between the analogue and non-analogue versions of Loveless
― global tetrahedron, Tuesday, February 5, 2013 1:28 PM

neither did i, i think ppl are kidding themselves here

― ☏ (am0n), Tuesday, 5 February 2013 18:34 (2 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Well,I expected no difference, but I wouldn't bother with the old DAT mastered version now

Don’t forget that some copies where mis-labelled.

Yeah there's no way I had to blast this on full as long as I used my good audiotechnica heaphones. On my shite old broken sornys it sounded really quiet and muddy. Its so odd, the difference it makes!

Is it not deliberately quiet? It gets noticeably louder during Nothing Is and stays that way. To make that happen, you'd have to have been quiet to start with.