The Return Of My Bloody Valentine

I just heard much of this in a pub just now, remarkable how warm and fuzzy it is, even the Stereolab-y track sounded like comfort food. We were wondering if the lack of top end was a product of long days in studio, rolling it off as your ears get tired. Or maybe he mixed it in a pub. Either way: good pub record

also worth noting that this album has had me access itunes for the first time in what feels like a year since signing up for spotify premium

― kelpolaris, Tuesday, 5 February 2013 04:21 (44 minutes ago)

Or maybe you don't mean you went to the iTunes store, you mean you used the program called iTunes.

Sorry, meant itunes the application. I also kinda assumed we had all come to equal consensus that the store, like the program, were dead things.

goontie: yeah comfort food is what i thought partic with the first three tracks, I called it "mashed potatoes"!

rejected cover:

https://encrypted-tbn2.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcTutTXBZ8Xcjfpzz60lOLp1xVdEXoszEXimAnh3QEd6dE5TnW82wg

https://twitter.com/brandonstosuy/status/298104192642461696

lol barf

headphones + weed

am3n

also worth noting that this album has had me access itunes for the first time in what feels like a year since signing up for spotify premium

― kelpolaris, Tuesday, 5 February 2013 04:21 (44 minutes ago)

Exact same for me. Although the process for getting it on there was torturous and resulted in itunes deleting all the music I had on already. Oh well, what other music matters right now?

The first three tracks are probably the weakest, they mostly sound like Loveless but not as good. I'm not sure quite what I expected after 22 years but it wasn't really a retreat into comfort zone. It really takes off after that though and the second half is amazing.

The first three tracks are like a nice warm reassuring hug. No, probably not as good as owt on Loveless, but pleasant nonetheless. Agreed that it gets really good from thereon in, though. Wonder 2 is an amazing way to end it.

I get the feeling that "nice warm reassuring hug" is not really the point of MBV though.

I don't.

I think it's part of the point of Loveless, as a record. The live experience is obviously different. I've always thought one of the best things about Loveless is that its character changes quite dramatically depending on the volume you play it at; low, it's a soothing balm. High, it's something else entirely.

Loveless may feel comforting NOW but it certainly didn't when it was released. Or at least it didn't until you'd got past the alienating bits, even if that only took one listen.

I get the feeling that "nice warm reassuring hug" is not really the point of MBV though.

― Matt DC, Tuesday, February 5, 2013 5:03 AM (1 hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

you're right, it's "nice warm reassuring fuck"

Just filed a 500 word of this without mentioning Isn't Anything/Loveless - have i ballsed up?

Well, I'll let y'all judge:
http://crackmagazine.net/music/my-bloody-valentine/

nice!

CHeers - I think it's alright for something written whilst sat behind the till serving customers.

feels like "nothing is" was created solely for the live performances.

It was created to allow me to sneak some MBV into a techno set.

The first three tracks are probably the weakest, they mostly sound like Loveless but not as good.

I’ve realised that Only Tomorrow really reminds me of the direction The Pastels took in about '97, around the same time he did them a remix. I fact I can remember standing in front of Kevin and Debbie at a Pastels gig at The Garage around then.

The best remix he did I think: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7wyqTc79H-s

Okay, so after numerous listens in headphones, speakers and in the car, I can confirm that I really, really like this album.

It took 22 years for My Bloody Valentine to get a new album out, so it maybe shouldn't be a shock that it takes a few songs for "mbv" to establish itself. Once it gets its legs, it's a masterpiece. If the beginning pays tribute to the band's past, the final three tracks - the military percussion battering shimmering guitars on "In Another Way," the thrashing interlude "Nothing Is" and the underwater-like dreamscape of album closer "Wonder 2" make both waits worth it. Bilinda Butcher's impact, if not input, on the album cannot be overstated.

Right, I have listened to it three times now.

Will put it away, until I get the proper LP/CD package...

I've listened to this probably a dozen times now. I absolutely love it, warts and all. What a great album.

yeah im gonna wait til the lp arrives too i think now. 3 or 4 plays is enough for now, i want to hear it properly.

the lp will never arrive
& the bitrate of the mp3s will deteriorate by 1kbps each passing day
until you are left
with just a shadow
of something
you barely got to hold on to

Man, that's so heavy.

so any guesses who's getting remix duties?

nm, should prob start another thread for that

burned a disc of the mp3s last nite and listened to it on my good speakers and cd player....really amazing to hear it a bit louder on speakers

aside from questions of songs, arrangement, tones, etc...this might be heresy but i think this is a better PRODUCED & engineered record than loveless...the mixes are just expertly done, i think the drums sound better across the board than loveless and the way he's made the vocals sit in the mix is just masterful, they are much clearer in a way but still feel very soft and a part of the overall whoosh of the music...he really got better since loveless, honestly, i wouldn't mind if he got the masters of loveless and did a new mix of it just for shits and giggles, would maybe be the highlight of 2024

well, check out the analogue disc of Loveless, I do think it makes all the difference

did that ever come out in the U.S.? i never saw it around :(

So... "if I am" is really good for sunrises. I came down ill and took today off, subsequently staying in my window facing bed when id usually be taking a shower and headed out. The nonchalance, the warmness, the slow progression... really kinda made for a kinda unbelievable complement to seeing the sun progress through the gaps in the trees.

:)

Hoping to get more of this sound, I checked out XTRMNTR. Pretty disappointed by that one. I don't get it...if there's anything to get. Too harsh and the vocals do nothing for me.

primal scream is a pretty shitty band for the most part

I believe none of the MBV remasters had a North American release.

I came here to say what Mark G said.

I've been listening to m b v since Sunday morning; on headphones, car speakers, regular speakers.

Then I took out the REMASTERED ANALOGUE version of Loveless. Sonically, m b v makes more sense this way; not so with the first mastering of Loveless or the CD remastering. Both have their charm and purpose, but from what I've read, I always interpreted Shields's words as favouring the remastered analogue version.

I swear I couldn't tell the difference between the analogue and non-analogue versions of Loveless, but I think I got a dodgy torrent or something because people all say the analogue is obviously superior. I have decent speakers and a good ear, or maybe I only thought I did...

I swear I couldn't tell the difference between the analogue and non-analogue versions of Loveless
― global tetrahedron, Tuesday, February 5, 2013 1:28 PM

neither did i, i think ppl are kidding themselves here

also this "new" album is just loveless outtakes

A quick practical note: I couldn't get the direct-purchased MP3s to work on my (non-Apple) player, and noticed some weird behaviour in things like VLC too - hanging, odd blank space in the scroll bar etc. Mentioned this to a friend, and he'd had similar problems; he did some tinkering and discovered that, for reasons best known to Kev, the MP3 tags included a 3MB version of the album art for each file. I'd wondered why they were so huge, and this explains why my Flash based player was struggling. Used mp3tag to strip these elements out, and all fine.

"Chinese Democracy"

LOL that is perhaps the most insane revelation on this thread yet!

xpost

I played both versions back-to-back, with direct "5 seconds on one album" and another few seconds of the other and, yes, I could tell the difference. Some parts are more subtle than others. If I was at a get-together and heard the album in loud speakers, I don't think I would be able to say, "Shit, man, that's the REMASTERED ANALOGUE version of Loveless!"

Shields has said himself it's more of the sensation and feeling you get listening to it. As a person who has recorded in studios (on analogue and digitally), I have to agree. There is no other way to explain it. That's why you get more into it in good smallish speakers in smallish rooms or on a good pair of cans.

IMHO

I'm really satisfied with this album.

i wish the 320 mp3s were louder. will try w/ the WAV files tonite :-[