It definitely sounds like a helicopter taking off at the end. The only thing bad about this album is that it's too short.
― Emperor Cos Dashit (Adam Bruneau), Monday, 4 February 2013 20:57 (thirteen years ago)
i've seen the "it's too short" criticism a few times, which is funny because even though i agree, it's 45 minutes long!
― Z S, Monday, 4 February 2013 21:02 (thirteen years ago)
really? it seems a lot shorter
― pfunkboy (Algerian Goalkeeper), Monday, 4 February 2013 21:03 (thirteen years ago)
i'm trying to ignore the 22 year thing when i listen to this
Me too, although I am interested in the effect this has. Thinking about what how the reception would've differed if it had come out in '94, '97, '05 and now.
But yes, if you think about the 22 years, it's hard to not want it to be 7.3x better than Loveless.
― Keith, Monday, 4 February 2013 21:05 (thirteen years ago)
I do wonder if this will win over anyone who wasn't already converted. 2012 might be timely - a lot of dream pop is getting attention, a lot of the people who are listening to it weren't even alive when Loveless came out!
― Z S, Monday, 4 February 2013 21:10 (thirteen years ago)
i like your review nick, especially as it has that preliminary stamp written all over it, it is amazingly modest of a critic admittig that he/she hasn't parsed the object of criticism yet and needs some more time. one small question concerning the review of "summer sun" and some other yo la tengo albums a couple of weeks ago. was there a reason you never published my comment or did the bot put it into the spam comment bin?
― it's the distortion, stupid! (alex in mainhattan), Monday, 4 February 2013 21:10 (thirteen years ago)
is that 909 percussion I’m hearing on ‘New You'? I think it might just be, especially the open hi-hats.
― Chewshabadoo, Monday, 4 February 2013 21:18 (thirteen years ago)
Agreed, this seems to fly by in a flash
― Raymond Cummings, Monday, 4 February 2013 21:53 (thirteen years ago)
I've listened to this like 5 times today so far.
― Emperor Cos Dashit (Adam Bruneau), Monday, 4 February 2013 22:09 (thirteen years ago)
just the play stats of the songs of the new album on the mbv youtube cannel, i am surprised about the clear lead of "she found now". it probably has to do with the faact that it is the fisr song, after that most people just seem to give up.
she found now 239.229only toorrow 95.500wonder 2 87.613who sees you 82.964is another way 50.834new you 50.209nothing is 39.763is this and yes 37.238if i am 37.137
― it's the distortion, stupid! (alex in mainhattan), Monday, 4 February 2013 22:10 (thirteen years ago)
Woah Wonder 2 is doing well.
― Van Horn Street, Monday, 4 February 2013 22:11 (thirteen years ago)
It's so crazy. From the first time I heard "Loveless" til i met someone else who had was years. And now you can look up exactly 87,613 people listened to "Wonder 2".
― Emperor Cos Dashit (Adam Bruneau), Monday, 4 February 2013 22:12 (thirteen years ago)
^^ OTM to the OTM'est of OTM's
― Le Bateau Ivre, Monday, 4 February 2013 22:13 (thirteen years ago)
wonder what last.fm stats are
― pfunkboy (Algerian Goalkeeper), Monday, 4 February 2013 22:15 (thirteen years ago)
the album has one listener on last.fm, presumably me
― mookieproof, Monday, 4 February 2013 22:21 (thirteen years ago)
I think it'll take a while for the new scrobbles to settle.
― Manti and the Catfish (Trayce), Monday, 4 February 2013 22:23 (thirteen years ago)
http://www.last.fm/labs/popularrightnow
― pfunkboy (Algerian Goalkeeper), Monday, 4 February 2013 22:23 (thirteen years ago)
Yeah, I've just had a look and the information on each song isn't showing up for me yet.
― The Jupiter 8 (Turrican), Monday, 4 February 2013 22:24 (thirteen years ago)
On another listen last night, it struck me that the craziness of the last 3 tracks, but in particular "in another way", gave me a similar sonic experience than the one I had the first time I heard "DI Go Pop" (the song not the album) by Disco Inferno. And then it occurred to me that the main sampled riff in DI Go Pop is an MBV guitar riff....
― Manti and the Catfish (Trayce), Monday, 4 February 2013 22:25 (thirteen years ago)
Those stats look pretty standard. It's basically the sequence of the album top to bottom but with the tracks that seem to have been mentioned most bumped up the list. I think Wonder 2 is the track most people mention. Strangest thing is how many people skip If I am.
― Oblique Strategies, Monday, 4 February 2013 22:25 (thirteen years ago)
http://i.imgur.com/Tdfa3fr.jpg
― pfunkboy (Algerian Goalkeeper), Monday, 4 February 2013 22:25 (thirteen years ago)
fuckin lumineers
― mookieproof, Monday, 4 February 2013 22:26 (thirteen years ago)
'If I Am' is such a grower.
― The Jupiter 8 (Turrican), Monday, 4 February 2013 22:26 (thirteen years ago)
Its "is this and yes" that leaves me the most "meh", but I think its a context thing. In the right ambient surroundings it'd be pleasing but buried in this album it just feels like an odd, droning pause.
― Manti and the Catfish (Trayce), Monday, 4 February 2013 22:30 (thirteen years ago)
I see tracks like 'Is This And Yes' and 'New You' as moments of relief, for want of a better term. Placed in the albums sequence to allow the listeners to catch their breath a little bit.
― The Jupiter 8 (Turrican), Monday, 4 February 2013 22:32 (thirteen years ago)
'New You' especially, gives the listener a little bit of time to clear their minds out in preparation for the sonic onslaught of the last three tracks.
― The Jupiter 8 (Turrican), Monday, 4 February 2013 22:33 (thirteen years ago)
That just assumes kids these days actually listen to albums all the way through like they're supposeter >:|
― Manti and the Catfish (Trayce), Monday, 4 February 2013 22:34 (thirteen years ago)
Alex, I honestly don't know what happened to your comment on Yo La Tengo; it's not in my list now but I always approve everything not trying to sell drugs! Please make it again if you want to and I'll keep an eye out for it.
― they all are afflicted with a sickness of existence (Scik Mouthy), Monday, 4 February 2013 22:34 (thirteen years ago)
Is that a mellotron on "New You"? Sounds like a mellotron flute sample.
I LOVE the rewinding thing that follows "If I Am". The wah guitar is so cool. And the '90s beats of this thing are amazing. Sooner or later someone was bound to come up with the perfect '90s retro record and i think this is it!
― Emperor Cos Dashit (Adam Bruneau), Monday, 4 February 2013 22:36 (thirteen years ago)
But recording the drums live was a good idea, it doesn't sound consciously affected to sound retro. The songwriting is just timeless My Bloody Valentine. This record could have come out in 2093.
― Emperor Cos Dashit (Adam Bruneau), Monday, 4 February 2013 22:38 (thirteen years ago)
The coldness of "Is This and Yes" contrasts nicely with the previous tracks. It's like a moment of stillness leading into the album's low-intensity second act.
― jim, Monday, 4 February 2013 22:39 (thirteen years ago)
the cover art really is amazingly ugly. especially the violet mbv lettering. don't they have an art director or somethig?
nick, i made that comment at least two times, apparently it got lost in the aether. it really doesn't matter and i am happy that it wasn't you who deleted it.
― it's the distortion, stupid! (alex in mainhattan), Monday, 4 February 2013 22:41 (thirteen years ago)
Yes, it's bloody awful. I made my own classier one to replace it:
http://i48.tinypic.com/w7hdt0.jpg
― Keith, Monday, 4 February 2013 22:43 (thirteen years ago)
It's because Kevin just made us this awesome mixtape called "mbv" and he dropped it on the internet and while it was uploading made this in photoshop.
― Emperor Cos Dashit (Adam Bruneau), Monday, 4 February 2013 22:44 (thirteen years ago)
Please tell me that's a Lost in Translation background.
― jim, Monday, 4 February 2013 22:45 (thirteen years ago)
Oh that would've been a good idea, but unfortunately it's just a photo I accidentally took once.
― Keith, Monday, 4 February 2013 22:46 (thirteen years ago)
I love the artwork. Place it side by side with Loveless, and it all makes sense.
― The Jupiter 8 (Turrican), Monday, 4 February 2013 22:47 (thirteen years ago)
On RateYourMusic at this moment, top rated album of 2013 is Riverside's Shrine of New Generation Slaves, 3.74 from 305 ratings.
If you drill down to M B V, already its at 3.77 from 1446 ratings. Ie, enough ratings in 1 day to give it a lock in the top 5 RYM albums were it released in 2012.
― with perhaps the exception of r-r-r-r-rhythm (Sanpaku), Monday, 4 February 2013 22:59 (thirteen years ago)
I'll probably got shot for this, but it's better than the Glider EP cover.
― Van Horn Street, Monday, 4 February 2013 23:00 (thirteen years ago)
otm
I love the artwork. Place it side by side with /Loveless/, and it all makes sense.
OTM
― ❏❐❑❒ (gr8080), Monday, 4 February 2013 23:01 (thirteen years ago)
yes
― imago, Monday, 4 February 2013 23:01 (thirteen years ago)
but that blue is a little too blue if you know what i mean. at least they could have used a paler or darker blue but not the most standard, canonic, unimaginative blue around.
― it's the distortion, stupid! (alex in mainhattan), Monday, 4 February 2013 23:05 (thirteen years ago)
Maybe it is International Klein Blue.
― Keith, Monday, 4 February 2013 23:09 (thirteen years ago)
I like that it's a deep, deep blue. I know this probably wasn't the intention, but my first thought when I saw the blue cover was that typically in developing languages the first color words to be produced are contrasting words for light/white and dark/black, followed closely by a word for red; a word for blue comes much later. Thus we have the covers for Isn't Anything, Loveless, and mbv. Sorry I know this thread is dorked-out enough.
― :C (crüt), Monday, 4 February 2013 23:10 (thirteen years ago)
not ikb at all.
― s.clover, Monday, 4 February 2013 23:10 (thirteen years ago)
Whoa
x post
― Keith, Monday, 4 February 2013 23:11 (thirteen years ago)
Oh shit there's a new Fall Out Boy single?!?!? Thanks ilm.
― HAPPY BDAY TOOTS (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Monday, 4 February 2013 23:12 (thirteen years ago)
xp http://img-cache.cdn.gaiaonline.com/e026478f545ccdeb003f10bf4811c3e2/http://i638.photobucket.com/albums/uu106/johnnynoxvill1593/6483Spongebob_smoking_Weed.jpg
― ☯ t (wins), Monday, 4 February 2013 23:17 (thirteen years ago)
Went to the youtube full album trove to get a bead on the number of plays but this shit has been WEB SHERIFFED
― Raymond Cummings, Monday, 4 February 2013 23:18 (thirteen years ago)
You guys have seen this detail of the cover right?
http://www.thisisfakediy.co.uk/images/uploads/mbv970600.jpg
― Jaap and roids (NickB), Monday, 4 February 2013 23:21 (thirteen years ago)