The Return Of My Bloody Valentine

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I've only listened to it once and I like it (apart from 'nothing is').

― A Yawning Chasm (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Monday, February 4, 2013 4:07 PM (1 minute ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

I've seen a few people get a bit down on that track, even going as far as calling it 'filler'. Personally, I find the pounding, relentless momentum of it very exciting.

The Jupiter 8 (Turrican), Monday, 4 February 2013 16:10 (thirteen years ago)

I like it too. It works well leading into Wonder 2.

afriendlypioneer, Monday, 4 February 2013 16:11 (thirteen years ago)

And after whatever comes before it... that really good one. I forget what it's called.

afriendlypioneer, Monday, 4 February 2013 16:13 (thirteen years ago)

I love how experimental this record is. Like, I want to see chord progression charts for these songs, they would probably make no sense at all.

Emperor Cos Dashit (Adam Bruneau), Monday, 4 February 2013 16:16 (thirteen years ago)

Really? Aside from "In another way" it sounds straight forward to me.
This record sounds great when played next to the Tremolo EP imo

flamboyant goon tie included, Monday, 4 February 2013 16:31 (thirteen years ago)

"Nothing is" repeats every 28 measures (you can tell, there's a guitar flub)

Mark G, Monday, 4 February 2013 16:33 (thirteen years ago)

so we've got the loveless outtakes collection now, when's this new album out

am0n, Monday, 4 February 2013 16:52 (thirteen years ago)

My only beef is if they wait as long again to put out another record I'll be almost 60.

"Turkey In The Straw" coming from someplace in the clouds (Sparkle Motion), Monday, 4 February 2013 16:57 (thirteen years ago)

Late to the party as usual, downloaded last night and played twice today. It sounds like MBV, what's the problem? I do think there's too many mid tempo songs at the start of the album, but the tempos generally speed up as it progresses, and the volume increases too. As someone else has said it makes a good follow up to the "Tremelo" EP, seeing as "Loveless" seemed to step back from the brink of experimentation of that EP. I enjoyed it more the second time, and I think I'll enjoy it more each time I listen. It won't gain them any new fans, but existing fans should be pleased with it.

And trying to have a discussion about the band and new album with my wife while also trying to discourage my 6 yr old son from saying the word "Bloody" because it's "a rude word" is bloody difficult. :)

Rob M Revisited, Monday, 4 February 2013 16:59 (thirteen years ago)

m b v

Z S, Monday, 4 February 2013 16:59 (thirteen years ago)

they considered you and your son in advance, just call them m b v!

Z S, Monday, 4 February 2013 17:00 (thirteen years ago)

We did in the end.

Rob M Revisited, Monday, 4 February 2013 17:05 (thirteen years ago)

Anybody else hearing a lil' bit of Deerhoof in the vocals of "In Another Way"??

global tetrahedron, Monday, 4 February 2013 17:08 (thirteen years ago)

Really? Aside from "In another way" it sounds straight forward to me.

To me as well, but I only listened once or twice to the Youtubes. I think I'd find it more interesting if I noticed unusual harmonic progressions. Where are you hearing these?

EveningStar (Sund4r), Monday, 4 February 2013 17:15 (thirteen years ago)

nothing is = techno?

am0n, Monday, 4 February 2013 17:21 (thirteen years ago)

nothing is = industrial skiffle

Jaap and roids (NickB), Monday, 4 February 2013 17:27 (thirteen years ago)

it's the midpoint between Lonnie Donegan and the Young Gods

Jaap and roids (NickB), Monday, 4 February 2013 17:27 (thirteen years ago)

there's one track on this that totally steals the guitar sound from Can's 'I Want More' amirite?

Jaap and roids (NickB), Monday, 4 February 2013 17:31 (thirteen years ago)

i think i mean the song 'new you'

Jaap and roids (NickB), Monday, 4 February 2013 17:32 (thirteen years ago)

it's kind of bo diddley in space

Jaap and roids (NickB), Monday, 4 February 2013 17:34 (thirteen years ago)

"Is This and Yes" is a pretty weird progression. "In Another Way" has kind of a weird progression. At the very least those bagpipe guitars are some abrasive and non-straightforward stuff. I don't know, maybe it's just all the arrangements that gave me that impression. Just feels alot more chaotic than "Loveless" to me.

Emperor Cos Dashit (Adam Bruneau), Monday, 4 February 2013 17:46 (thirteen years ago)

Bo Diddley in space yeah. Last night on headphones i was getting a "2001: Space Odyssey" done by Noise Disney.

Emperor Cos Dashit (Adam Bruneau), Monday, 4 February 2013 17:47 (thirteen years ago)

Like, "New You" is cool, it's definitely got a Stereolab vibe for a bit. Maybe it's not that adventurous of a song but it's just great to hear this band again. Check out how the guitar tremelo is perfectly lined up with the drums. Is there only one guitar there? I love the looping of her vocals at the end, especially that little bit at the end of the phrase where she sings "do do do" a little slower and it almost cuts off and then the loop just starts back up again. SO GREAT!

Emperor Cos Dashit (Adam Bruneau), Monday, 4 February 2013 17:51 (thirteen years ago)

"Nothing Is" is fucking awesome. This is what i mean by experimental. They could have done with a more straight-ahead krautrock beat rather than this bizarre two-step which is kind of just whipping around the rhythm. Feel like I heard there was gonna be this cool noise band playing a house show and I show up and the lights are all off and everyone is standing around getting wasted in the dark watching as Kevin turns on a strobe light and maybe a noise TV and then starts punching up this stuff on a sampler.

Emperor Cos Dashit (Adam Bruneau), Monday, 4 February 2013 17:59 (thirteen years ago)

I feel like the craft of making this record really shows throughout. It's as much about making the record as the record itself.

Emperor Cos Dashit (Adam Bruneau), Monday, 4 February 2013 18:00 (thirteen years ago)

AV Club gives it an 'A' http://www.avclub.com/articles/my-bloody-valentine-mbv,91978/?utm_medium=RSS&utm_campaign=feeds&utm_source=avclub_rss_daily

Emperor Cos Dashit (Adam Bruneau), Monday, 4 February 2013 18:05 (thirteen years ago)

'A-'

MarkoP, Monday, 4 February 2013 18:10 (thirteen years ago)

About the chord progressions: I hear a lot of sus4 (and possibly 7sus4) type-chords, specifically New You, but also in a lot of the other songs.

On another note: loving this record from start to finish.

Marty8501 (Marty Innerlogic), Monday, 4 February 2013 18:12 (thirteen years ago)

DJ at Bush Tetras show last night was playing this in between bands. Sounded fantastic loud.

Elvis Telecom, Monday, 4 February 2013 18:32 (thirteen years ago)

"If anything, it takes the pulped angel corpse that is Loveless and feeds it back into the machine for one more spin around the macrocosm."

you're going home in a crispy ambulance (cajunsunday), Monday, 4 February 2013 18:40 (thirteen years ago)

good album

congratulations (n/a), Monday, 4 February 2013 18:40 (thirteen years ago)

Industrial skiffle otm, and I tried to think of something to say about the harmonic choices that wouldn't turn into "The Driest Post On ILM" but I couldn't so nm

flamboyant goon tie included, Monday, 4 February 2013 18:43 (thirteen years ago)

I don't usually expect much from the AV club music crits, but that is a pretty decent review.

xps

rocky dennis horror show (Pillbox), Monday, 4 February 2013 18:54 (thirteen years ago)

beginning my first listen now

excited!

downton arby (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 4 February 2013 19:06 (thirteen years ago)

I was pretty disappointed in some of the production choices at first but it's grown on me. I'd still like to hear more rhythm section and a little less control in places. If "In Another Way" was a hair more chaotic it might be one of my songs of the year.
One thing I've noticed (and I think this was mentioned upthread - It's not a recording for headphones. It needs actual physical space for context. I have expensive in-ears I invested in (so it's not a frequency range thing) which were how I chose to listen to the record for most of yesterday, Only when I played it on speakers a few times did I really start to feel an affinity for it.

Oblique Strategies, Monday, 4 February 2013 19:11 (thirteen years ago)

i dunno - I've been listening to it on a big, bulky pair of Sennheiser NC cans & it sounds pretty fucking great!

rocky dennis horror show (Pillbox), Monday, 4 February 2013 19:14 (thirteen years ago)

It could be personal taste. It sounds overly claustrophobic in headphones to me. All close mic'd / DI'd. There's not much air in the recording.

Oblique Strategies, Monday, 4 February 2013 19:21 (thirteen years ago)

Yeah, i was sitting there with the headphone on and it sounded great. Then every so often i would be "Aw, he should have mixed the drums louder here" and then i realized this dude probably mixed this a hundred different ways and this end result is _the way it is supposed to sound_. The drums are supposed to slip into the distance. Stuff is supposed to blend together.

Maybe if "Loveless" came out now there would be complaints "WTF this guy doesn't know how to mix, how come i can't hear what they're singing?"

Emperor Cos Dashit (Adam Bruneau), Monday, 4 February 2013 19:21 (thirteen years ago)

haha, pretty sure the reaction back in 1991 was similar

Z S, Monday, 4 February 2013 19:22 (thirteen years ago)

"the tape is warped!"

Z S, Monday, 4 February 2013 19:22 (thirteen years ago)

I like to imagine there are a few songs on here where there were 30+ tracks of guitar and this year he just decided to wipe them all and do the solo with a single noise guitar sound that has been perfected over 20 years.

Emperor Cos Dashit (Adam Bruneau), Monday, 4 February 2013 19:23 (thirteen years ago)

this is wonderful so far

downton arby (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 4 February 2013 19:50 (thirteen years ago)

One thing I've noticed (and I think this was mentioned upthread - It's not a recording for headphones. It needs actual physical space for context

This is my feeling as well-- I put this on at a reasonably loud volume, sat down in the sweet spot and immediately felt shapes being created in the air between the speakers. It's remarkable, over and above songwriting or anything else, that shields can do this.

"Turkey In The Straw" coming from someplace in the clouds (Sparkle Motion), Monday, 4 February 2013 19:55 (thirteen years ago)

what? it sounds great on headphones!

:C (crüt), Monday, 4 February 2013 19:56 (thirteen years ago)

I don't think sounding good on speakers means an album is not a recording for headphones

:C (crüt), Monday, 4 February 2013 19:56 (thirteen years ago)

Yup, I've listened to this solely on headphones and I've no complaints at all.

The Jupiter 8 (Turrican), Monday, 4 February 2013 19:57 (thirteen years ago)

last three tracks specifically benefit from headphones imo

❏❐❑❒ (gr8080), Monday, 4 February 2013 20:03 (thirteen years ago)

It's not a recording for headphones. It needs actual physical space for context

this sounds very plausible but i think you need very good speakers to make this work. i listened to the album on my bose ear plugs and especially my fave song "only tomorrow" sounds wonderful. you hear every bit of noisy guitar on it. on the speakers, they are shit i know the stereo is a small yamaha hifi, the track sounds like a joke, where is that crystal clear distorted sound gone? it's the old thing the weakest part of a stereo is always the loudspeaker. i guess to have a sound as good as my 90 € ear-plugs, i'd have to invest about 5000 € in speakers.

it's the distortion, stupid! (alex in mainhattan), Monday, 4 February 2013 20:03 (thirteen years ago)

http://sickmouthy.com/2013/02/04/repetition-is-a-form-of-change-my-bloody-valentine-loveless-and-what-to-make-of-mbv-after-less-than-48-hours/

they all are afflicted with a sickness of existence (Scik Mouthy), Monday, 4 February 2013 20:04 (thirteen years ago)

I'm waiting with baited breath to play the CD through my proper speakers.

they all are afflicted with a sickness of existence (Scik Mouthy), Monday, 4 February 2013 20:05 (thirteen years ago)


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