The Replacements: Classic or Dud?

Thanks for that link, clemenza. I don't doubt that it was deliberate on the director's part; it just doesn't come off that way (due to either clumsiness or stubbornness, I couldn't say). About 30 minutes into the film it becomes a gimmicky running joke, one that distracts/detracts from the otherwise insightful (for the most part) interviews: what's the next incredible song we won't hear?

I only made it about two minutes in. If I want to be bored by music writers and regular Joe music fans waxing unpoetic about why a certain band is their favorite, I can always go to ... oh wait.

Deliberate or not (he sounds totally believable, but "This is not what I wanted to make thanks to the band" wouldn't be the best advertisement for his movie), I totally agree that not having any music really puts a limit on how good a film it can be.

The Replacements are an especially problematic band for that approach since a lot of the fan base is a little too earnest about flying the flannel.

Nice--not as good as Nico, probably as good as the original:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0xwfTGxg_KE

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3ploOauuD0M

ha I figured this thread got bumped because of the interview with Tommy on WTF today

have listened to 2/3 of the interview - it's pretty good. nothing revelatory but Tommy's chill and pretty talkative

must be weird for him to be interviewed by a self-confessed 'Mats fan who knows literally zero about them, lol

RFI: Did the pre-Pleased To Meet Me version of "Can't Hardy Wait" have recognizable lyrics or was Paul just going "blah blah blah" whist he and Bob were playing the riff?

the tim version? it's got lyrics
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8M7q5Mn3-oM

Ha, I meant Tim, sorry.

pre-Tim.

ah, then i don't know! not sure if i've heard a pre tim version.

This one. Some of the lyrics are the same as the Tim version.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wDCrVy9Tveg

Oh wait. I see. There is a Tim demo version which you just posted I haven't heard which is presumably is the missing link between the live version I used to hear and the Pleased To Meet Me version. Let me give a listen.

OK, you can hear what he is singing, but still get a sense that he hasn't quite finished the lyrics.

tbh honest I have started getting those two albums mixed up over the years, the album where Bob was still around but way down in the mix vs. the album where Bob was gone for real. Should probably post it on this thread: Oh! I Always Get Those Two Mixed Up!

Discussion of the different versions here:http://mentalfloss.com/article/31169/late-movies-replacements-cant-hardly-wait-turns-25

More discussion: http://www.aquariumdrunkard.com/2009/08/11/sevens-the-replacements-cant-hardly-wait/

Following the lyrics – one of the more noticeable shifts in the song’s evolution – you begin to wonder why they changed so dramatically in the song’s final thrusts toward album status. The song’s lyrics were loosely structured for most of its early existence, but whether just from Westerberg’s tendency to improvise adjustments live or the sometimes sloppiness of the band, the lyrics are rarely, if ever, completely identical in these various versions.

thinking of the PTMM handshake as a tat

What will your mom say

take out the trash

i'm getting the cover of "Stink" tattooed on my neck

http://i.imgur.com/szyBmiv.jpg

dunno if this has been mentioned in this thread but http://colormeimpressedlive.blogspot.com/

Wow. Looks amazing.

November 14, 1987, Riviera Theater, Chicago, IL
14. I Could Never Take The Place Of Your Man (Prince)

No memory of this whatsoever. I remember it actually being a boring show, and incredibly disappointing. I remember them doing the Georgia Satellites' "Keep Your Hands To Yourself" (although that could be 22. unknown ).

I just listened to part of CBGB's 12/9/84 (as much as I could get through.) I saw some pretty drunken Replacements shows, and I kinda enjoyed "Shit Hits The Fans," but this was painful. I can't even comprehend being that loaded and onstage playing.

I have not wrapped my head around the fact that this is what PW looks like now:

http://consequenceofsound.net/wp-content/uploads/2009/12/paul-westerberg_credit-marc-norberg-681x1024-399x600.jpg

A.) Not bad for a 53-year-old and B.) Not bad for a 53-year-old Rick Springfield.

Kind of appropriate for him to look like Rick Springfield aging gracefully.

he looks heavily airbrushed yet also seems like he's had botched plastic surgery in the mouth area

whoa yikes hold the phone
someone shopped another man's mouth onto paul westerberg
everything looks just right but his mouth looks ALL WRONG!

yeah it's like he's had his mouth ensmallened or something it looks bizarre

he has always had a big floppy mouth, and that mouth looks small and taut, like someone told him to "do something with your mouth"
it looks weird, for reference's sake, here is his mouth looking like his mouth
http://www.nyrock.com/imgs99/westerberg3.jpg/

let's try this one
http://i.realone.com/assets/rn/cms/2004/other/Paul_Westerberg_-_news_image.6420297.jpg

http://consequenceofsound.net/wp-content/uploads/2009/12/paul-westerberg_credit-marc-norberg-681x1024-399x600.jpg

http://matchbin-assets.s3.amazonaws.com/public/sites/212/assets/MichaelBolton.jpg

lol
are you unsatisfied...there?

yeah it's like he's had his mouth ensmallened

Only way he could quit drinking.

1 degree of kevin bacon

I bet Bolton could knock "Answering Machine" out of the park

how dare you

maybe you need yr mouth ensmallened too

1 degree of kevin bacon

Just found my old copy of "Shit Hits the Fans" while I was packing up to move the other day. Promptly sold it on Discogs for $60.00!

"Can't Hardly Wait" came on the radio the other day, and I guess it had just been long enough since I heard it for me to actually notice the lyrics. At his best he was a great minimalist, cramming so much into so few words.

Someone's got a stamp that I can borrow
I promise not to blow the address again

I think what's weird about that photo is that most of his face is askance, but the mouth is facing us head on.

Interesting, that CBGB '84 show is the same month I first saw em at Irving Plaza, they weren't falling-down drunk then. Will hafta check out July 27, 1987, The Ritz, mighta been there...

I think what's weird about that photo is that most of his face is askance, but the mouth is facing us head on.

― Poliopolice

the same thing's going on with the PW photo.

This one looks a bit more natural, but still, the years of sobriety have taken their toll.

http://www.punknews.org/images/bands/paulwesterberg-1349363560.jpg

I dunno why but I feel like 'fessing up: I only really started listening to The Replacements a couple of years ago. In high school I only knew the 2 Westerberg songs off the Singles soundtrack, which I loved and still quite like even though they're well twee

But now being fully immersed in everything from Hootenanny through PTMM, I do kinda wish I had a rewind button so I could have had the 'Mats in high school. That would have been something. But I enjoy having them now too, since I still feel a lot of those same ~feels~ now, but understand them a little better too so they don't quite rule me as much

Am envious of ppl who grew up with them tbh

actually I like Sorry Ma too, it's fun and messy

I do kinda wish I had a rewind button so I could have had the 'Mats in high school.

I started to write something about this, but then I remembered I already did:

Hearing "Sixteen Blue" when you actually were 16 = classic.
― gypsy mothra (gypsy mothra), Wednesday, August 24, 2005 6:43 PM (7 years ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink