i think there may well be something exciting about the repetition of that song ("nothing is") if i probe deeper. the band have often been repetitive in a gliding, replenishing way in the past; this is repetitive in a bouncing-off-the-walls kind of way, like it's trapped in a tiny, enclosed space. and it seems to get more and more agitated by the second. or maybe that is just how my mind conditions me to hear it?
x-posts to alex
― charlie h, Sunday, 3 February 2013 16:37 (thirteen years ago)
Not totally coherent thoughts but ... I've got a sense of how much I have changed in the time since Loveless was released that I almost want a new My Bloody Valentine album to echo that in some way: I guess I want it to sound like My Bloody Valentine but 20 (or whatever) years different. I'm not really getting that from the plays so far (to be fair, playing on computer speakers isn't really how I should be listening).
― djh, Sunday, 3 February 2013 16:38 (thirteen years ago)
would buy double album 45 rpm version of isn't anything. just in case lazybones shields lurks on ilx.
which reminds me! i've had these rollerskate skinny 10 inches in the store foreeeeeever and nobody will buy them and i am gonna listen to them now.
― scott seward, Sunday, 3 February 2013 16:40 (thirteen years ago)
Also struck by a vague feeling of ... there are other records I'll be buying before this and am more excited by ... which surprises me given how important they were to me.
― djh, Sunday, 3 February 2013 16:42 (thirteen years ago)
to be honest, and i haven't really thought about this THAT much, i kinda figured if he ever put out more mbv stuff that it would be really formless/drifting/drone type stuff. long 10+ minute songs and all that. collaborate with, i dunno, sonic boom or stars of the lid or something and just disappear into hyperspace. its not like he couldn't have done that at home and knocked out an album every couple of years. so i'm kinda glad that he stuck to the, you know, formula. for the most part. the contained thing. though there is a little more formlessness. the structures aren't as simple/catchy/riff-y as before. less rock action. which is fine by me.
― scott seward, Sunday, 3 February 2013 16:45 (thirteen years ago)
formlessness not the right word at all. sorry. i need more tea. just less pop-oriented. rock-oriented.
― scott seward, Sunday, 3 February 2013 16:47 (thirteen years ago)
cuz there is obviously form there. form up the butt.
― scott seward, Sunday, 3 February 2013 16:48 (thirteen years ago)
Am I wrong or is my impression correct that a lot of athletes sign contracts with provisions saying they'll have to do that kind of shit?
― Ned Raggett, Sunday, February 3, 2013 8:40 AM (1 hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
Ned, I think it's a variety of things, one, some athletes are just kind of blank ppl as strongo noted, others aren't that bright, but others I think kind of recite those cliches like zen koans because they are safe things to say, they protect you from the espn/sports radio echo chamber, which will eat you alive and spit you out the minute you say something ill considered
― downton arby (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Sunday, 3 February 2013 16:51 (thirteen years ago)
Someone observed elsewhere that it took longer for Shields to follow up "Loveless" (22 years) than it took the slasher in the film "My Bloody Valentine" to return and wreak havoc on the town's Valentine's Day celebration (20 years).
Second half of this album is what intrigues me the most.
― Josh in Chicago, Sunday, 3 February 2013 16:52 (thirteen years ago)
officially official youtubes so they won't get taken down...
https://www.youtube.com/user/TheOfficialMBV/videos
― scott seward, Sunday, 3 February 2013 16:52 (thirteen years ago)
i mean it SAYS official so they must be official. i believe what i read.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pWyRfqfEC2s
― scott seward, Sunday, 3 February 2013 16:53 (thirteen years ago)
I wanna know how the peruvian food was
― ☯ t (wins), Sunday, 3 February 2013 16:54 (thirteen years ago)
it isn't even mentioned in that quietus piece
I saw the pictures on twitter it looked really good
― 乒乓, Sunday, 3 February 2013 17:04 (thirteen years ago)
It was quite excellent.
― Ned Raggett, Sunday, 3 February 2013 17:08 (thirteen years ago)
Pisco sour:
http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8079/8439349061_e1b4537f71_z.jpg
Ceviche and other appetizers:
http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8466/8439366987_71ab05b9e7_z.jpg
Lomo saltado:
http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8366/8440525198_a7ce828d4d_z.jpg
― Ned Raggett, Sunday, 3 February 2013 17:09 (thirteen years ago)
Standard options all but since it was my first time at this place I wanted to see how well they did the basics.
― Ned Raggett, Sunday, 3 February 2013 17:10 (thirteen years ago)
What's on the sour? Cinnamon? Cocoa?
― Josh in Chicago, Sunday, 3 February 2013 17:12 (thirteen years ago)
I really don't understand how someone could be disappointed. This is awesome. Maybe not as catchy as "Loveless" but it sounds like I will be listening to this so many times and continually finding new stuff to love about it.
A friend on fb posted "Oh this sounds like demos" and yes it's kind of sad that this came out in a snarky era where people will just take a challopsy stance without even listening to the record to get internet points.
― Emperor Cos Dashit (Adam Bruneau), Sunday, 3 February 2013 17:17 (thirteen years ago)
Good day for comfort food of all types, looks like.
― Brad Laner, Sunday, 3 February 2013 17:20 (thirteen years ago)
peruvian food rules
― call all destroyer, Sunday, 3 February 2013 17:20 (thirteen years ago)
Brad's right there.
And yes, cinnamon.
― Ned Raggett, Sunday, 3 February 2013 17:21 (thirteen years ago)
My brain just melted a bit. Bob Mould recommended my Quietus piece over on FB.
― Ned Raggett, Sunday, 3 February 2013 17:28 (thirteen years ago)
https://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-snc7/600459_659126293500_2041506351_n.jpg
― afriendlypioneer, Sunday, 3 February 2013 17:34 (thirteen years ago)
you've made it to the big time!
― you're going home in a crispy ambulance (cajunsunday), Sunday, 3 February 2013 17:34 (thirteen years ago)
"Only Tomorrow" kind of reminds me of Medicine... Anyone else?
― afriendlypioneer, Sunday, 3 February 2013 17:36 (thirteen years ago)
my favorite MBV releases are the IA-era EPs & the Tremolo EP. And on several of the tracks here it seems like Kev's going back and deliberately exploring that transitional space b/w IA & Loveless - so, in many respects, I couldn't be happier about the way this sounds. I would have not expected or desired genre-redefining, pioneering music from them at this point. tbh the fact that there is new music AT ALL is something I'm still having trouble getting my head around, so it this were to be written off as an artifact & they never release anything else again, it's still an album's worth of NEW MBV SONGS that didn't exist in the world (if a pile of abandoned master tapes falls in the forest, does it make a sound?) before today. Perspective, ppl!
― rocky dennis horror show (Pillbox), Sunday, 3 February 2013 17:37 (thirteen years ago)
has anyone here ever gone to an official listening party for an album that was really bad? just curious. gotta be kinda awkward.
― scott seward, Sunday, 3 February 2013 17:37 (thirteen years ago)
don't really think its that challopsy tbh, after a few listens its surprising how underproduced/unfinished some of it sounds
― ( X '____' )/ (zappi), Sunday, 3 February 2013 17:38 (thirteen years ago)
"Only Tomorrow" kind of reminds me of Medicine... Anyone else?"
i think so too! - the dude from medicine who was just here a minute ago
― scott seward, Sunday, 3 February 2013 17:40 (thirteen years ago)
i really like Nothing Is!
― pfunkboy (Algerian Goalkeeper), Sunday, 3 February 2013 17:43 (thirteen years ago)
a nod tohttp://2.bp.blogspot.com/-iD2olqkqx9Y/TZbuExSOC-I/AAAAAAAAANg/zTU3Tm0JDok/s1600/Nothing%2BIs...%2BSun%2BRa%2B%25281966%2529.jpg ?
― pfunkboy (Algerian Goalkeeper), Sunday, 3 February 2013 17:44 (thirteen years ago)
Scott: I was asked to leave a really ostentatious playback for a Sigur Ros album once.
― Doran, Sunday, 3 February 2013 17:44 (thirteen years ago)
pf hailed medicine as the closest thing to being an american answer to mbv, so apparently you are not alone.
― miesepeter (alex in mainhattan), Sunday, 3 February 2013 17:44 (thirteen years ago)
Sure, and I hear lots of other bands of the period in this that I know for certain KS was listening to.
― Brad Laner, Sunday, 3 February 2013 17:47 (thirteen years ago)
I always thought/still think Buried Life holds up well to Loveless.
― afriendlypioneer, Sunday, 3 February 2013 17:47 (thirteen years ago)
Hey Brad, I didn't even notice you here. I'm not trying to polish your shoes or anything.
― afriendlypioneer, Sunday, 3 February 2013 17:48 (thirteen years ago)
better than throwing up on them ! Thanks for the kind words !
― Brad Laner, Sunday, 3 February 2013 17:51 (thirteen years ago)
But you could say the same thing about "Loveless". The crustiness and lo-finess is part of the charm of My Bloody Valentine. Working in an expensive studio for years to make something that sounds lo-fi. mbv certainly doesn't sound like MBV demos to me compared to their earlier stuff.
― Emperor Cos Dashit (Adam Bruneau), Sunday, 3 February 2013 17:52 (thirteen years ago)
The 90s nostalgic in me wants to listen to this LP played back over a big rock PA waiting for a show to start.
― Ask The Answer Man (sexyDancer), Sunday, 3 February 2013 17:52 (thirteen years ago)
i contend that 'One More' by Medicine is one of the only gaze-era songs to actually give MBV a run for their money (and the only Medicine song to come anywhere even close imo).
― rocky dennis horror show (Pillbox), Sunday, 3 February 2013 17:52 (thirteen years ago)
loved One More ... first heard it over a big rock PA waiting for a show to start.
― Ask The Answer Man (sexyDancer), Sunday, 3 February 2013 17:54 (thirteen years ago)
The only one or two where we were actually trying to do that, so thanks ! After that there were legions of bands ready to take up that mantle.
― Brad Laner, Sunday, 3 February 2013 17:56 (thirteen years ago)
at fucking Wetlands in NYC (rip)
― Ask The Answer Man (sexyDancer), Sunday, 3 February 2013 17:56 (thirteen years ago)
you guys its been 15 years since the last All Natural Lemon & Lime Flavors album. the wait continues...
― scott seward, Sunday, 3 February 2013 18:05 (thirteen years ago)
hey brad - yeah, not so much used to artists showing up on ilx to discuss their own work, but thanks for not taking that as a slight b/c it certainly was not intended to be one!
― rocky dennis horror show (Pillbox), Sunday, 3 February 2013 18:11 (thirteen years ago)
No worries at all. It's hardly a controversial opinion that you expressed.
― Brad Laner, Sunday, 3 February 2013 18:15 (thirteen years ago)
brad has been in and out of ilx enough over the years to know that i thinkxp
― pfunkboy (Algerian Goalkeeper), Sunday, 3 February 2013 18:16 (thirteen years ago)
if we're bigging up brad laner's work then there's a couple of tracks off the lusk album that do the whole bendy shoegaze thing really, really well
swirlies' second album is the true righteous accedent to the second-wave shoegaze throne afaict
got the feeling that i'm sleeping on (if one can be sleeping on something ~20 hours after it was released) the first track of m b v, will investigate now
― imago, Sunday, 3 February 2013 18:42 (thirteen years ago)
Still haven't heard the new MBV record due to being incredibly busy today... think I'm going to have me a listen to Loveless first (because I haven't listened to it in like, ages), and then move on from that to the new record.
― The Jupiter 8 (Turrican), Sunday, 3 February 2013 18:51 (thirteen years ago)