I mentioned Massive Attack for a reason!
― Ned Raggett, Friday, 1 February 2013 22:56 (thirteen years ago)
^^ I'm not sure I would have noticed that without this thread and Ned's review. It made me appreciate this song about 10x more, upgrading it from "midtempo ballad and not much else" to "groovy and mysterious, possibly a grower".
― NoTimeBeforeTime, Saturday, 2 February 2013 08:18 (thirteen years ago)
Looks like a certain person from a certain 101 film doesn't rate it...
http://www.wiretotheear.com/2013/01/30/depeche-mode-heaven/
― The Jupiter 8 (Turrican), Saturday, 2 February 2013 11:36 (thirteen years ago)
so what are people saying about the B side? I find it pretty aimless and surprisingly un-DM, but then again DM for me was never a great b side band
― licorice oratorio (baaderonixx), Saturday, 2 February 2013 12:36 (thirteen years ago)
From what I'm reading around the internet, folks seem to be generally preferring the B-side!
― The Jupiter 8 (Turrican), Saturday, 2 February 2013 13:18 (thirteen years ago)
They have done some sterling B-sides over the years, though... 'Surrender' (which I thought was stronger than the A-side)... 'Dangerous'...
― The Jupiter 8 (Turrican), Saturday, 2 February 2013 13:20 (thirteen years ago)
First, if I choose to listen to music I’m going to want a song about love, sex, pain or danger.
― Josh in Chicago, Saturday, 2 February 2013 14:35 (thirteen years ago)
You know, I completely missed the B-side! I just now saw it was in a separate package from the remix EP. But at least I can buy it individually so...
― Ned Raggett, Saturday, 2 February 2013 15:13 (thirteen years ago)
More energetic, still understatedly moody, I can see why people like it more on first blush but it's a B-side for sure.
― Ned Raggett, Saturday, 2 February 2013 15:16 (thirteen years ago)
the "heaven" video was shot at the place i'm getting married in like 5 months! not really relevant but i saw the video and freaked out a little bit, because i am a child.
― adam, Monday, 4 February 2013 17:25 (thirteen years ago)
We got some word from the Quietus:
Depeche Mode fans! Just been to listen to new LP Delta Machine! A return to leathery electronics, and you can really hear that Martin Gore's work with VCMG has had a big impact.
― Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 5 February 2013 15:29 (thirteen years ago)
Interesting! Maybe the single is a bit of a red herring, then? Nevertheless, it's pretty much a given that I'm going to listen to this record as quickly as I possibly can after it drops.
― The Jupiter 8 (Turrican), Tuesday, 5 February 2013 15:45 (thirteen years ago)
Huh. I don't get glossy technorobics from "Heaven" at all
― Ima R.A.E.D. (DJP), Tuesday, 5 February 2013 15:46 (thirteen years ago)
I'm hoping that 'Heaven' is a deliberate attempt to wrong-foot everybody :/
― The Jupiter 8 (Turrican), Tuesday, 5 February 2013 15:49 (thirteen years ago)
Why the hell would the band want to do that?
"Hey guys, I've got a great idea! Let's release a single that might actually lower interest and expectations!"
― Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 5 February 2013 15:53 (thirteen years ago)
Because a band at Depeche Mode's level can.
― The Jupiter 8 (Turrican), Tuesday, 5 February 2013 15:56 (thirteen years ago)
Yeah, that makes a lot of sense.
"We've tried being successful. Now let's try being unsuccessful on purpose!!!!"
― Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 5 February 2013 15:58 (thirteen years ago)
You're missing the point, as usual. It has absolutely nothing to do with 'lowering interest/expectations' or being 'unsuccessful on purpose'. I'm thinking more in terms of how 'Barrel Of A Gun' was the first single for Ultra, and how it isn't really the most representative track on the album. I'm hoping that 'Heaven' isn't indicative of the rest of the record - quality wise, production wise, mood wise.
― The Jupiter 8 (Turrican), Tuesday, 5 February 2013 16:05 (thirteen years ago)
Besides, Depeche Mode are at the stage of their career where they have a very large, fiercely loyal worldwide fanbase - and I don't think they're going to lose that very large, fiercely loyal worldwide fanbase due to one particular single. Usually with Depeche Mode, everyone waits for the album before they make a full judgement, and lo and behold that's exactly what's happening.
― The Jupiter 8 (Turrican), Tuesday, 5 February 2013 16:11 (thirteen years ago)
You're missing the point, as usual.
Ha, as usual. Good one ... as usual.
Of course Depeche Mode will turn out fine. They could probably put out a couple of albums of straight shit and they'd still do fine. I just think it's funny to imagine DM putting out a dud track just for the sake of misdirection. Because I will say, no matter what the album actually sounds like, I can probably guess what it will largely sound like. Hint: Depeche Mode.
I like "Barrel of a Gun." I don't like this one.
― Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 5 February 2013 16:19 (thirteen years ago)
Because I will say, no matter what the album actually sounds like, I can probably guess what it will largely sound like. Hint: Depeche Mode.
― Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, February 5, 2013 4:19 PM (14 seconds ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
Indeed. But, I'm hoping it's going to be at least a good Depeche Mode record rather than a not-so-good Depeche Mode record and that the forthcoming album at least contains enough good songs on it for me to be able to conveniently ignore this one.
― The Jupiter 8 (Turrican), Tuesday, 5 February 2013 16:26 (thirteen years ago)
I think I'm in the minority here since I really like "Heaven" and wouldnt mind a whole album of noirish slow burners. Anyway, DM is pretty used to releasing misleading first singles. "Personal Jesus" anyone? Even "Wrong" was not really representatives (unfortunately).
― licorice oratorio (baaderonixx), Tuesday, 5 February 2013 16:46 (thirteen years ago)
An album full of "It Doesn't Matter" or "A Question Of Lust" clones would be amazing. "Condemnation" clones, not so much.
― Ima R.A.E.D. (DJP), Tuesday, 5 February 2013 18:34 (thirteen years ago)
I reckon "Heaven" is OK. Putting out a ballad as a first single is always kind of risky, but I guess it works out when you have been in the biz for more than 30 years.
― The GeirBot (Geir Hongro), Tuesday, 5 February 2013 18:37 (thirteen years ago)
Oh hey Geir, what's up?
― Ima R.A.E.D. (DJP), Tuesday, 5 February 2013 19:53 (thirteen years ago)
geirbot?!
― licorice oratorio (baaderonixx), Tuesday, 5 February 2013 19:59 (thirteen years ago)
US tour dates, tickets on sale in April:
• Aug. 22 - Detroit
• Aug. 24 - Chicago
• Aug. 27 - St. Paul
• Sept. 1 - Toronto
• Sept. 3 - Montreal
• Sept. 6 - Brooklyn, N.Y.
• Sept. 8 - Wantagh, N.Y.
• Sept. 10 - Washington
• Sept. 12 - Atlanta
• Sept. 14 - Tampa
• Sept. 15 - Ft Lauderdale
• Sept. 18 - Houston
• Sept. 20 - Dallas
• Sept. 22 - San Diego
• Sept. 24 - Santa Barbara, Calif.
• Sept. 26 - Mountain View, Calif.
• Sept. 28 - Los Angeles
• Sept. 29 - Los Angeles
• Oct. 8 - Phoenix
Also I gather they're on Letterman tonight.
― Ned Raggett, Monday, 11 March 2013 17:44 (thirteen years ago)
That St Paul, MN date is at the MN State Fair, heh, culture clash.
― chr1sb3singer, Monday, 11 March 2013 17:52 (thirteen years ago)
wait really
― Darth Icky (DJP), Monday, 11 March 2013 17:52 (thirteen years ago)
Apparently
― chr1sb3singer, Monday, 11 March 2013 17:57 (thirteen years ago)
goddammit
we were planning a European trip during that time frame but how can I pass that up
― Darth Icky (DJP), Monday, 11 March 2013 17:58 (thirteen years ago)
No Boston :(
― go to party leather (ENBB), Monday, 11 March 2013 18:02 (thirteen years ago)
More info
https://www.facebook.com/events/356508044461677/
― Ned Raggett, Monday, 11 March 2013 18:36 (thirteen years ago)
hahaha goddamnit that is the due date for my kid, looks like im delivering a baby in the grandstand
― O_o-O_O-o_O (jjjusten), Monday, 11 March 2013 19:07 (thirteen years ago)
That would be a pretty great birth story.
― go to party leather (ENBB), Monday, 11 March 2013 19:08 (thirteen years ago)
Pretty sure there is a birthing station over by the Leinie's Lodge
― chr1sb3singer, Monday, 11 March 2013 19:12 (thirteen years ago)
miracle of birth barn imo
― O_o-O_O-o_O (jjjusten), Monday, 11 March 2013 19:20 (thirteen years ago)
this must happen
― Darth Icky (DJP), Monday, 11 March 2013 19:21 (thirteen years ago)
promises me I'm safe as housesas long as I remember to PUSH
If I recall correctly people born at the Fair get a lifetime pass, so from that stand point it doesn't make sense to have the baby anywhere but at the Fair
― chr1sb3singer, Monday, 11 March 2013 19:29 (thirteen years ago)
"But DAD these dudes are like 100 years old, why do we always have to go see them everytime we're in town?"
"BACK IN MY DAY YOU COULD WEAR A RAT-TAIL AND NOT GET LAUGHED AT."
― Ned Raggett, Monday, 11 March 2013 19:41 (thirteen years ago)
strictly speaking, this wasn't true
― Darth Icky (DJP), Monday, 11 March 2013 19:42 (thirteen years ago)
My apologies. Three rat-tails.
― Ned Raggett, Monday, 11 March 2013 19:43 (thirteen years ago)
Gonna be a mad scramble to get DC tix for the wife
― Raymond Cummings, Monday, 11 March 2013 20:05 (thirteen years ago)
Brooklyn, NY? Where?
― That elusive North American wood-ape (Capitaine Jay Vee), Monday, 11 March 2013 21:21 (thirteen years ago)
Brooklyn Bowl oh wait
That Barclays place, I'd imagine.
― Ned Raggett, Monday, 11 March 2013 21:44 (thirteen years ago)
yeah - I forgot about the big places there ; 0
― That elusive North American wood-ape (Capitaine Jay Vee), Monday, 11 March 2013 21:47 (thirteen years ago)
So the performance for Letterman is happening now, full miniconcert and they're playing other new songs
http://www.cbs.com/shows/liveonletterman/artist/209798/depeche-mode/
But right now it's "Walking In My Shoes" I think...
― Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 12 March 2013 00:11 (thirteen years ago)
*piano chord*
Uh, yeah, definitely that.
Letterman show on Soundcloud: http://soundcloud.com/ultra_depeche/sets
― Doctor Madame Frances Experimento, LLC", Wednesday, 13 March 2013 21:50 (thirteen years ago)