good stuff jf
― pfunkboy (Algerian Goalkeeper), Thursday, 31 January 2013 13:17 (thirteen years ago)
also it seems there are many people voting for the same bloody things in trax and albums polls
like why would you vote for a burial cut off a three-track ep AND the ep itself?
ditto katy b, terje
― lex pretend, Thursday, 31 January 2013 13:21 (thirteen years ago)
do they still do that in P&J?
― pfunkboy (Algerian Goalkeeper), Thursday, 31 January 2013 13:23 (thirteen years ago)
disgusting savages imo
― Tim F, Thursday, 31 January 2013 13:25 (thirteen years ago)
my personal bullshit theory: there are so many EPs on the list this year in the same way there are so many mixtapes this year, because they are a lower-risk release. So more artists are doing them and they've got more traction as a format - and maybe are more willing to do interesting things on them? so it's mostly 1. there are just more of them this year (and they are cheaper/free) and the list reflects that; and maybe a little 2. the EP as a format can itself be interesting bcz certain artistic choices are made and not-made.
― bantz a make her dance (c sharp major), Thursday, 31 January 2013 13:26 (thirteen years ago)
that said, none of the EPs i got this year were particularly ~thematic~
― bantz a make her dance (c sharp major), Thursday, 31 January 2013 13:27 (thirteen years ago)
I've been saying for years that people should vote for eps in album polls, and this was the year it stuck I guess. I'm still grumpy about that Burial SINGLE.
― Johnny Fever, Thursday, 31 January 2013 13:28 (thirteen years ago)
EPs also allow for faster release cycles?
― 乒乓, Thursday, 31 January 2013 13:28 (thirteen years ago)
we don't know it's the same people voting tbf
― pfunkboy (Algerian Goalkeeper), Thursday, 31 January 2013 13:28 (thirteen years ago)
like there is only one person in the world who can release an album every single year and her name is Rihanna
― 乒乓, Thursday, 31 January 2013 13:29 (thirteen years ago)
Only EP I voted for was G-Dragon I think, but then again EP/Mini-Album seems to be the order of the day for k-pop.
― pandemic, Thursday, 31 January 2013 13:29 (thirteen years ago)
igi it's 30+ mins of music, but...maybe I just don't like Burial. (Well, no...there's no maybe about it. Burial is lame.)
― Johnny Fever, Thursday, 31 January 2013 13:29 (thirteen years ago)
yeah i think there are definitely more EPs around that are more like mini-albums (and that's not even counting the r&b/hip-hop tendency to call something an EP which is obviously an album). i voted for one of each of those - dawn richard's "EP" is just not an EP in anything except name; ikonika's EP was nearly 40 minutes long, 6 tracks, as cohesive/coherent in its exploration of a particular aesthetic as any album, the quality consistent enough that there was no one standout track to vote for (and also because i voted for the EP i didn't vote for the track!!)
literally no excuse at all for katy b voters, that EP wasn't even a ~cohesive statement~ it was a grab-bag of 4 random songs
― lex pretend, Thursday, 31 January 2013 13:30 (thirteen years ago)
great to see the cherry thing place, hopes of also seeing bill fay and fushitsusha are fading fast
I know the rock stuff has been complete utter garbage so far and any Fushitsusha is better but feeling kinda underwhelmed by what I've heard - like there's more blues not enough no wave to them these days.
My impression from a couple of tracks tho'.
― xyzzzz__, Thursday, 31 January 2013 13:31 (thirteen years ago)
I'm glad for the rise of the EP again, the 'album' has always felt like a cludgy format to me
― 乒乓, Thursday, 31 January 2013 13:32 (thirteen years ago)
EP is a great format
― Designated Striver (Tom D.), Thursday, 31 January 2013 13:33 (thirteen years ago)
Tracks poll has nearly 4000 posts, the albs poll may struggle to get up to 2500 => CLEAREST PROOF OF 'DEATH OF THE ALBUM' EVERYONE!
― xyzzzz__, Thursday, 31 January 2013 13:34 (thirteen years ago)
tracks poll was 4 days of clusterfuck
― pfunkboy (Algerian Goalkeeper), Thursday, 31 January 2013 13:34 (thirteen years ago)
why are there so many more EPs this year?[insert bullshit doglatin-esque theory about our diminishing attention spans]― lex pretend, Thursday, 31 January 2013 13:17 (14 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
[insert bullshit doglatin-esque theory about our diminishing attention spans]
― lex pretend, Thursday, 31 January 2013 13:17 (14 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
I know this is pure trolling, but if I never said this and you don't believe it, why say it?
― dog latin, Thursday, 31 January 2013 13:35 (thirteen years ago)
Clearly albums fans are more civilised and tracks fans are savages.
― pfunkboy (Algerian Goalkeeper), Thursday, 31 January 2013 13:35 (thirteen years ago)
haha I don't mean to get on a THE ALBUM IS DEAD LONG LIVE THE EP tip, just sayin ~how I feel~
― 乒乓, Thursday, 31 January 2013 13:36 (thirteen years ago)
i love EPs, my point is more that it feels silly to compare some of them to albums
― lex pretend, Thursday, 31 January 2013 13:37 (thirteen years ago)
Album is still king in many genres though.
― pfunkboy (Algerian Goalkeeper), Thursday, 31 January 2013 13:37 (thirteen years ago)
i voted for both Inspector Norse and It's The Arps and I... don't see why that's weird? listening to Norse on its own is a different experience from listening to the whole EP, I guess, and also I just don't think of the tracks poll and the albums poll as being the same thing. tracks that I like i want to do well in one poll, albums/eps that I like I want to do well in another. there's a lot of crossover because there are standout tracks that become favourites on their own (which for me is poppier stuff, but i recognise that a burial fan's going to have a different standout).
― bantz a make her dance (c sharp major), Thursday, 31 January 2013 13:37 (thirteen years ago)
I think the tracks poll, by nature, leads to a lot of impromptu discovery and conversation. Albums are too bulky to listen to quickly and craft opinions (or they should be). Tracks poll is always more fun, no doubt about it.
― Johnny Fever, Thursday, 31 January 2013 13:37 (thirteen years ago)
http://i.imgur.com/LnpZC7q.png
19. FIONA APPLE The Idler Wheel (608 Points, 17 Votes, 1 First Place Vote) Spotify
― Johnny Fever, Thursday, 31 January 2013 13:38 (thirteen years ago)
surely the tracks poll gets a longer thread because it's easier to talk about previously-unfamiliar individual tracks that are linked and that you can listen to on the fly than it is to talk about entire unfamiliar albums.
― bantz a make her dance (c sharp major), Thursday, 31 January 2013 13:39 (thirteen years ago)
xpost what JF said
It's The Arps is pretty thematic I think.
― Matt DC, Thursday, 31 January 2013 13:39 (thirteen years ago)
no no no no THE ALBUM IS DEAD
― 乒乓, Thursday, 31 January 2013 13:39 (thirteen years ago)
Come back wittering about grayscale all is forgiven.
― Matt DC, Thursday, 31 January 2013 13:40 (thirteen years ago)
YES fiona!
too low, but also impressively high considering she's never had much of an ilm following.
EVERYONE LISTEN TO "HOT KNIFE" RIGHT NOW AND LET YOUR MINDS GET BLOWN
― lex pretend, Thursday, 31 January 2013 13:40 (thirteen years ago)
I tried to crack this album, but I couldn't. "Hot Knife" is p good, but I'm certain at this point that Fiona Apple is an artist I only need to visit occasionally, and even then only particular tracks. As far as albums go, I think When the Pawn has the highest concentration of favorites.
― Johnny Fever, Thursday, 31 January 2013 13:41 (thirteen years ago)
thought fiona would be higher
― call all destroyer, Thursday, 31 January 2013 13:42 (thirteen years ago)
Yeah I was joking ('death of the album' isn't gonna happen anytime soon) but I just see a general lesser level of enthusiasm for stretches of this poll in comparison to the tracks.
― xyzzzz__, Thursday, 31 January 2013 13:42 (thirteen years ago)
That track is p great. I liked the album but I think I still listened to 'When The Pawn' more times in 2012 than this one.
xxp
― pandemic, Thursday, 31 January 2013 13:43 (thirteen years ago)
Huh wow, thought Fiona would be top ten for sure. Deserved it too tbh
― Le Bateau Ivre, Thursday, 31 January 2013 13:43 (thirteen years ago)
I find myself enjoying releases with "long" tracks that do a lot over 8-10 mins. I can dip in and get my artist experience in one go. Suits my listening lifestyle I guess.
― dog latin, Thursday, 31 January 2013 13:44 (thirteen years ago)
it seemed like a good album, idk maybe i'll give it more time soon
― call all destroyer, Thursday, 31 January 2013 13:45 (thirteen years ago)
i was surprised the idler wheel actually got the critical traction it did: i don't recall fiona apple getting taken seriously that much in the 90s (when i loved her a LOT), and it's easily the most difficult, oddest album of her career: "hot knife" isn't that representative, the rest is all clanks and whirrs and weird found sounds and oblique memories and uncomfortably foregrounded vocals. lyrically she's still got it, though: this opening couplet from "left alone" is all-time:
you made your major overtureswhen you were a sure and orotund muttand I was still a dewy petalrather than a moribund slut
― lex pretend, Thursday, 31 January 2013 13:45 (thirteen years ago)
*oblique melodies
http://i.imgur.com/nsGZOdD.png
18. BLONDES Blondes (634 Points, 25 Votes) Spotify
― Johnny Fever, Thursday, 31 January 2013 13:53 (thirteen years ago)
I need to give the Blondes album another go. did nothing for me on first listen
― Old Boy In Network (Michael B), Thursday, 31 January 2013 13:55 (thirteen years ago)
Ah good, I like the Blondes album. I don't listen to it a lot, but I enjoy it whenever it's on.
― dog latin, Thursday, 31 January 2013 13:58 (thirteen years ago)
my fave haino-related release last year was actually his live jam alb w/ o'rourke & arambachi - pure rock action, not too heavy on the bloos - but i figured that had even less chance of making this poll
― Ward Fowler, Thursday, 31 January 2013 14:00 (thirteen years ago)
enjoyed blondes, definitely preferred it to the talabot, didn't vote for it at all. that is one super-nice album design though! something so simple, but i could spend ages looking at the shapes on it
― Jaap and roids (NickB), Thursday, 31 January 2013 14:00 (thirteen years ago)
yay blondes, my votes are coming thick and fast now
a lot of the dance/electronic stuff that's placed so far i've described as perfect for grey, hungover days; this is the opposite, the music is so dazzlingly bright, it sounds just like one of those piercingly bright winter days when you look up and you're momentarily blinded by the sun and everything around you just seems more luminous than usual
― lex pretend, Thursday, 31 January 2013 14:02 (thirteen years ago)
lol, lex, I will concede that this is quite a good couplet, but jeez, even with a Fiona Apple record you manage to highlight the lyrics with derogatory terms for women. \o/
― emil.y, Thursday, 31 January 2013 14:05 (thirteen years ago)
Haha, the main image I get when I hear Blondes is loads and loads and loads of roses, for some reason. I get something stately, almost 'classical' (as in Roman or Greek) about them, so it's statues and flowers and stuff. Prob just me of course.
― dog latin, Thursday, 31 January 2013 14:06 (thirteen years ago)
Maybe it's the fx they use - 'choir of angels' kind of thing
― dog latin, Thursday, 31 January 2013 14:07 (thirteen years ago)