ILM's Top 77 Albums of 2012

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when's the roll-out starting again? just wondering cos i have to make up work for yesterday's lackadaisicaliality.

dog latin, Tuesday, 29 January 2013 11:03 (thirteen years ago)

I'll be starting in about 60-90 mins.

Johnny Fever, Tuesday, 29 January 2013 11:26 (thirteen years ago)

grand

dog latin, Tuesday, 29 January 2013 11:28 (thirteen years ago)

Sweet

Raymond Cummings, Tuesday, 29 January 2013 11:31 (thirteen years ago)

3... 2... 1...

Johnny Fever, Tuesday, 29 January 2013 12:41 (thirteen years ago)

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60. DIRTY PROJECTORS Swing Lo Magellan (254 Points, 8 Votes) Spotify

Johnny Fever, Tuesday, 29 January 2013 12:41 (thirteen years ago)

Damn, going to miss this part of the results as I'm in Australia at the moment and it's a little late here. I'm starting to give up hope of my precious iamamiwhoami placing. If it doesn't appear in the next few albums it's probably not going to make it.

Kitchen Person, Tuesday, 29 January 2013 12:43 (thirteen years ago)

despised everything about them so much that i avoided this completely (proud achievement!) but if i'm not mistaken this is way down from where the last one placed? ilm coming 2 its senses <3

lex pretend, Tuesday, 29 January 2013 12:48 (thirteen years ago)

The only song I've really liked that I've heard by Dirty Projectors was Stillness Is The Move. I found a lot of their last album a bit cloying and ultimately trying too hard and failing at something they probably shouldn't have attempted in the first place (the guy can't pull off those Eastern / R'n'B-influenced melismas all that well to my ears). Should I listen to this?

dog latin, Tuesday, 29 January 2013 12:48 (thirteen years ago)

So far, we've knocked out GAPDYX.

Johnny Fever, Tuesday, 29 January 2013 12:51 (thirteen years ago)

pretty sure the xx will be way down from their debut too

i literally can't even remember what P was!

lex pretend, Tuesday, 29 January 2013 12:51 (thirteen years ago)

Stillness Is the Move is the only song I ever need from Dirty Projectors. I gave this album half a listen when it showed up, but I couldn't make it through the whole thing.

Johnny Fever, Tuesday, 29 January 2013 12:52 (thirteen years ago)

There's no P or Y for last year either so there's only the XX left. Who will probably do pretty well but still worse than last time.

Matt DC, Tuesday, 29 January 2013 12:52 (thirteen years ago)

I was trying to remember P last night, and drew a blank as well.

Johnny Fever, Tuesday, 29 January 2013 12:52 (thirteen years ago)

Phoenix wasn't it?

pfunkboy (Algerian Goalkeeper), Tuesday, 29 January 2013 12:53 (thirteen years ago)

Oh right!

Johnny Fever, Tuesday, 29 January 2013 12:53 (thirteen years ago)

Loved the last album, didn't hear a single track from this. Same thing with Animal Collective. There definitely seems to be a massive fall from grace of these guys, which kind of makes me want to give them more of a fair shout, but there was too much other interesting stuff going on this year.

P = Phoenix

Yes, it was a stupidly lumped together bunch of bands who don't sound anything like each other.

xxp

emil.y, Tuesday, 29 January 2013 12:53 (thirteen years ago)

http://www.wearephoenix.com/

how's life, Tuesday, 29 January 2013 12:53 (thirteen years ago)

was the Y Yeah Yeah Yeahs?

pfunkboy (Algerian Goalkeeper), Tuesday, 29 January 2013 12:53 (thirteen years ago)

Yeah.

emil.y, Tuesday, 29 January 2013 12:54 (thirteen years ago)

They were lumped together because they appeared on all the lists, often within the top 20. igi

Johnny Fever, Tuesday, 29 January 2013 12:54 (thirteen years ago)

That happens every year, of course. Whiney was particularly surly in 2009 I guess.

Johnny Fever, Tuesday, 29 January 2013 12:55 (thirteen years ago)

God, who listens to that Phoenix album really?

dog latin, Tuesday, 29 January 2013 12:56 (thirteen years ago)

Yes, I realise that. However, it was billed as some sort of 'GAPDYX continuum' or 'GAPDYX phenomenon' or 'GAPDYX is what is wrong with music' -> impossible unless you're charting a musical similarity as well as critical acclaim.

xxp again.

emil.y, Tuesday, 29 January 2013 12:56 (thirteen years ago)

I still listen to Lizstomania all the time, but yeah...I haven't played the whole thing in forever.

Johnny Fever, Tuesday, 29 January 2013 12:57 (thirteen years ago)

There definitely seems to be a massive fall from grace of these guys

yeah it's curious that it's happening to them all, just wondering why - change of direction? same direction but so substandard that even fans of the last one weren't satisfied? whims of fashion?

(in the case of the xx, whom i love, it's probably same-but-substandard)

lex pretend, Tuesday, 29 January 2013 12:58 (thirteen years ago)

Anyway, yeah freak-folk-ish indie of the last decade (AC, DP, GrizBear and that sort of stuff) has definitely met its match this year. I guess Tame Impala might count, but they're actually a lot more tenacious and rockin' than people give them credit for.

I saw Tame Impala's 'Feels Like We Only Go Backwards' vid yesterday - it's what music videos were made for. I'm surprised more pop artists don't just release whole video albums these days. It would make sense.

dog latin, Tuesday, 29 January 2013 12:59 (thirteen years ago)

Pheonix and Yeah Yeah Yeahs are the only two I care about from that list, both have new albums in April. Wouldn't be surprised if XX place really soon.

Kitchen Person, Tuesday, 29 January 2013 12:59 (thirteen years ago)

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59. SHACKLETON Music for the Quiet Hour/The Drawbar Organ EPs (258 Points, 7 Votes, 3 First Place Votes)

Johnny Fever, Tuesday, 29 January 2013 13:00 (thirteen years ago)

I listen to the Phoenix album a fair amount but mainly I just want to watch that PS22 kids Chorus doing Lizstomania on Youtube.

Kitchen Person, Tuesday, 29 January 2013 13:02 (thirteen years ago)

yeah it's curious that it's happening to them all, just wondering why - change of direction? same direction but so substandard that even fans of the last one weren't satisfied? whims of fashion?

You'll almost certainly disagree with me here, but I think there's an inherent psychological effect of "new decade, need to leave behind the old stuff" in listeners, critics, music marketeers. If scenes are built around a tide of promotional push -> sustain -> release -> decline, it kind of makes some sense that the second year into a decade is when listeners start to look around for new sounds rather than latching on to existing factions. Just a theory though...

dog latin, Tuesday, 29 January 2013 13:02 (thirteen years ago)

I don't even know what or who a Shackleton is, but three people voted it #1.

Johnny Fever, Tuesday, 29 January 2013 13:03 (thirteen years ago)

three first place votes, one of them was mine iirc

a la recherche du tempbans perdu (NickB), Tuesday, 29 January 2013 13:03 (thirteen years ago)

I'm surprised more pop artists don't just release whole video albums these days. It would make sense.

I think this may well come, though I imagine it'll be one-off promotional techniques rather than standard (adding video production costs to music production costs in order to put up your album on youtube i.e. give it away for free? Not a particularly sound business plan - unless of course you fan-source services for free... hey, AFP, here's an idea).

emil.y, Tuesday, 29 January 2013 13:04 (thirteen years ago)

v pleased about shackleton placing - i only heard this in january (maybe because it was being nominated for the ILM poll) but it's superb. into the drawbar organ eps half a bit more than music for the quiet hour but it's all pretty great. fantastic use of organ. if i'd heard it sooner i might have voted for it.

"seven present tenses" is insane

lex pretend, Tuesday, 29 January 2013 13:06 (thirteen years ago)

Okay yeah, I like that.

Johnny Fever, Tuesday, 29 January 2013 13:09 (thirteen years ago)

Hm, the Shackleton stuff I'd heard before I'd not been keen on, but that 'Seven Present Tenses' *is* really good. Nice sounds going on.

emil.y, Tuesday, 29 January 2013 13:10 (thirteen years ago)

This was a really fucking long album, which took me months to get my head round. Very snakey bass music that is just loaded with mysteries. it's in two halves, Drawbar Organ is the more immediate and my favourite part, Music for the Quiet Hour is rather more ambient. Some of it reminds me a bit of NWW and I kind of like the symmetry of Sam Shackleton being the Steve Stapleton of um, whatever this post-dubstep music is called.

Best song is Katyusha btw

a la recherche du tempbans perdu (NickB), Tuesday, 29 January 2013 13:12 (thirteen years ago)

2am here in NZ, let's see how much of this rollout I'll see.

Had a friend w/a bunch of '12ish Shackleton vinyl, IIRC it was way more Terry Riley-ish than I'd expected?

etc, Tuesday, 29 January 2013 13:13 (thirteen years ago)

I'm another #1 Shackleton voter. Loved the immenseness of both of these. Music to get lost in.

chewy, Tuesday, 29 January 2013 13:14 (thirteen years ago)

Actually I did find myself getting quite bored halfway through that track... then another nice tune came in, so that was okay.

emil.y, Tuesday, 29 January 2013 13:14 (thirteen years ago)

did shackleton's three eps place in whatever year it was released? that album still has some of my favourite work by him - "asha in the tabernacle", to be specific (that "whole world in his hands" interpolation!!!)

in the main i'm just really into the bleak, grey-day-hangover-friendly mood shackleton creates (similar to vatican shadow) even when there's little to sink my teeth into, but certainly on the drawbar organ side this feels like his meatiest work yet

lex pretend, Tuesday, 29 January 2013 13:15 (thirteen years ago)

("That track" being 'Seven Present Tenses'. Will give the other one a try too.)

xp to me

emil.y, Tuesday, 29 January 2013 13:15 (thirteen years ago)

yeah it's curious that it's happening to them all, just wondering why - change of direction? same direction but so substandard that even fans of the last one weren't satisfied? whims of fashion?

Happens to virtually all bands following up a critically acclaimed album.

Matt DC, Tuesday, 29 January 2013 13:19 (thirteen years ago)

fell seriously hard for the '09 dirty projectors release but couldn't get into swing lo in the same way

shackleton is an thing i admire but it's so huge and overwhelming and a lot of it is wonky wank

monotony, Tuesday, 29 January 2013 13:20 (thirteen years ago)

Felt like a detective listen to this thing trying to figure it all out. Lots of little surreal touches (strange voices and chants, the little flute in Katyusha) but also great drums throughout and I love the way that the bass really sneaks up on you in some sections. For something so labyrinthine, some of it really bangs. This is kind of what I hoped Demdike Stare would be more like.

a la recherche du tempbans perdu (NickB), Tuesday, 29 January 2013 13:22 (thirteen years ago)

liked that xx album a lot, was surprised at how they fell out of favour given that it wasn't too drastic a change up from the debut. animal collective i could understand falling off the radar as that freak folk sound isn't as popular in indie anymore and also it didn't sound like the most recent, hugely acclaimed album.

phoenix's album still holds up. great band. also revisited it's blitz as prep for mosquito the other day, and there are more hits on that record than you remember

monotony, Tuesday, 29 January 2013 13:22 (thirteen years ago)

Shackleton is best thing I've heard so far on here from a couple of random tracks. woozy organs and industrial landscape shit and sirens.

xyzzzz__, Tuesday, 29 January 2013 13:24 (thirteen years ago)

Lots of little surreal touches (strange voices and chants, the little flute in Katyusha) but also great drums throughout

See, I really like the little touches, and the majority of 'Katyusha' sounds great, but I find the drums a little flimsy and annoying, and the fact that he goes into long stretches of just those tinny beats is off-putting (NB: I am listening on shit computer speakers). I think I'd like it if I was working to it more than trying to listen hard to it, but then I'd probably end up missing a lot of the good bits...

emil.y, Tuesday, 29 January 2013 13:24 (thirteen years ago)

yeah it's curious that it's happening to them all, just wondering why - change of direction? same direction but so substandard that even fans of the last one weren't satisfied? whims of fashion?

Happens to virtually all bands following up a critically acclaimed album.

AC explicitly said they wanted to make something that was totally different to MPP and couldn't be received the same way. Seems like the only thing worth their while (if not the while of many MPP fans).

nashwan, Tuesday, 29 January 2013 13:31 (thirteen years ago)


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