TS: Lone Justice or Cruzados or Drivin' & Cryin' or Green On Red or Del Fuegos or Jason & The Scorchers or Long Ryders or Bodeans?

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The Flesh Eaters song you've got to hear is "Tightrope on Fire." I haven't heard it in years and don't know how to describe it but...

It's kind of like - it goes as far as early Springsteen goes. Except it's punk rock. It takes punk rock and it goes as far as early Springsteen goes.

timellison, Monday, 28 January 2013 01:18 (eleven years ago) link

Here it is. Just totally screamin' and great songwriting.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bbZ58gIx7k4

timellison, Monday, 28 January 2013 01:34 (eleven years ago) link

three months pass...

Just found this guy who's more recent, but kind of belongs here I think. Even beyond a pretty solid Bowie cover (!) the stuff I've checked on Spotify so far is pretty intriguing.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PN4_jssER78

dlp9001, Friday, 24 May 2013 14:42 (eleven years ago) link

I kinda feel like the Lazy Cowgirls belong in this thread - they started out straightforward punk rock, but got more and more roots-rock as they went on - had acoustic guitars on their last album, I'm Goin' Out and Get Hurt Tonight. And main man Pat Todd was one of the great working class lyricists of L.A. rock.

誤訳侮辱, Friday, 24 May 2013 17:07 (eleven years ago) link

eight months pass...

I forget which thread had all the Lone Justice talk in terms of them being a great/overblown 'real music' hope circa 1986 and all (and how ridiculous it looks now). Anyway this story about an archival release from 1983 digs enjoyably deep, and a second part to come:

http://music.yahoo.com/blogs/our-country/lone-justice-album-fresh-cowpunk-30-years-later-103815697.html

A fair amount of gilding lilies in terms of memories, I suspect, but hey (I kinda like McKee's attitude versus everyone else's -- especially Hedgecock saying that country is the "indigenous" music of Los Angeles, which, like, think about it, dude).

Ned Raggett, Saturday, 1 February 2014 18:47 (ten years ago) link

The voice McKee did have was that of a young Dolly Parton, reincarnated while she still walked the earth and transmuted into the slender body of an 18-year-old Beverly Hills girl. Parton herself came down to one of the group’s earliest club shows and offered her seal of approval — something she repeated 30 years later when she contributed an endorsement for the new album’s liner notes, calling McKee “the greatest girl singer any band could ever have.” Of the night Dolly came down, McKee says, “I remember it was on the evening news when it happened. That’s how unusual it was. And there was nobody there, but she was there, in the front, yelling and screaming at me!”

Bryan Fairy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 1 February 2014 18:53 (ten years ago) link

Here it is; Past Critics' Darlings Re-evaluated as Duds?

Bryan Fairy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 1 February 2014 18:53 (ten years ago) link

Yeah, love that Parton story. And thanks for finding that!

Ned Raggett, Saturday, 1 February 2014 19:00 (ten years ago) link

Thanks for all these updates! Don't think I've prev. linked my 2001 cosmic cowgirl round-up, wich talks about McKee's Hollywood background, incl. big bro Bryan MacLean's influence: his own music for Love and after, also he got her into Broadway albums---think those who expected a New Traditionalist/alt-country Joan of Arc had no idea: http://www.villagevoice.com/2001-05-01/music/alias-in-wonderland/

dow, Saturday, 1 February 2014 20:05 (ten years ago) link

Overdid the McCaslin though. The Mckee song "Panic Beach" I describe in there got the Dixie Chicks foresisters so excited about young unknown Natalie Maines, when Daddy Lloyd played them her audition tape.

dow, Saturday, 1 February 2014 20:14 (ten years ago) link

We should mention (a) McKee scored a #1 hit in England with "Show Me Heaven" and (b) I hear McKee in Neko Case, and not to McKee's credit.

Bryan Fairy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 1 February 2014 20:19 (ten years ago) link

re(b): how so?

dow, Saturday, 1 February 2014 21:00 (ten years ago) link

Neko Case also a big-voiced artist whose marketing has little bearing on what she is: Lone Justice-style slick rock.

Bryan Fairy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 1 February 2014 21:02 (ten years ago) link

Belters both. Neko could do "Wheels."

Meanwhile:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mrLph5vW7BU

tbd (Eazy), Saturday, 1 February 2014 21:03 (ten years ago) link

Belters both, yeah, and pop elements, but their broody, restless, sometimes woolgathering lyrics tend go against the grain of "slick-rock" per se---increasingly so on the post-LJ albums I've heard (which, in the piece, have me thinking of Ziggy Bowie) def on several Case albums, incl The Virginian, Furnace Room Lullabym and The Worse Things Get.

dow, Saturday, 1 February 2014 21:20 (ten years ago) link

Thanks for the Green On Red.

dow, Saturday, 1 February 2014 21:21 (ten years ago) link

Thread revival reminded me a piece I wrote a few years ago on the positioning and marketing of these mid eighties bands.

Bryan Fairy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 1 February 2014 21:29 (ten years ago) link

I saw Lone Justice twice, both times opening for U2. The first time, in early 1985, they were booed before they even started playing. Even a raging cover of "Fortunate Son" didn't lessen the boos.

The second time was in 1987, around the time "Shelter" was a near-hit. They just got polite applause.

I thought their first record was OK, but McKee's Life Is Sweet towers over everything else they/she did (with the possible exception of "Non-Religious Building" on High Dive, easily the most effective and/or hilarious Who pastiche of the last 25 years).

Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Saturday, 1 February 2014 22:08 (ten years ago) link

Robbie Robertson didn't do poor Maria any favors in the last minute of this video. It's a tough watch...

http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=4KP9PNSUME4

kornrulez6969, Sunday, 2 February 2014 21:32 (ten years ago) link

Yeah, on Rolling Reissue, Tarfumes and I were talking about the hazards of opening for young U2 and their multiplying multitudes (Pylon's Randy Bewlay: "It was like touring with Jesus Christ").

dow, Sunday, 2 February 2014 21:40 (ten years ago) link

The weird thing is, supposedly the Red Rockers -- who opened for them the night before -- were warmly received. wrt Lone Justice, I suspect the Chicago crowd thought this "country music" was strictly cornballsville, hence the booing.

Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Sunday, 2 February 2014 21:55 (ten years ago) link

But why did they give Pylon so much trouble, at several shows? Zealous converts to B.O.N.O., mebbe.

dow, Monday, 3 February 2014 01:57 (ten years ago) link

Pretty sure even REM got a rough time on a U2 led bill in 1985

Master of Treacle, Monday, 3 February 2014 02:18 (ten years ago) link

well, yeah. The hair!

Bryan Fairy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 3 February 2014 02:24 (ten years ago) link

That doesn't sound right? R.E.M. sort of swore off opening for big bands after they toured with the Police around '83.

timellison, Monday, 3 February 2014 03:32 (ten years ago) link

Pretty sure R.E.M. opened for U2 in Europe in '85, though.

Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Monday, 3 February 2014 03:48 (ten years ago) link

And now that I remember it, I saw the BoDeans open for U2 in 1987 also. They weren't booed. They should have been.

Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Monday, 3 February 2014 03:50 (ten years ago) link

I saw Lone Justice open for U2 on the Joshua Tree tour in East Rutherford. They seemed good but the sound was godawful.

Next time I saw them, the Pixies opened, a few months before they broke up. Last time it was Interpol, who are not a daytime stadium show band.

kornrulez6969, Monday, 3 February 2014 06:00 (ten years ago) link

six months pass...

This Is Lone Justice: The Vaught Tapes 1983--blasting their club set in a good li'l studio. No stereo-typical 80s glitz; like the booklet says, "quick and dirty," never blurry, though a few of the originals could use more well-thought-out trad lifts/folk process, a la "Soap Soup And Salvation," which makes well-timed use of "When The Roll Is Called Up Yonder" without getting mawkish; good speedy, confident cover of "Jackson" too. "This Is World Is Not My Home" goes from Carter Family/Woody G. rumination to poignant-with-a-beat "Soap"-style convocation to whooo, ready to meet them angels with sum white line fever (this would be the punkabilly or cowpunk, I take it).

dow, Friday, 22 August 2014 21:42 (nine years ago) link

Oh yeah, and Common Ground: Dave Alvin & Phil Alvin Play and Sing the Songs of Big Bill Broonzy turns out to be surprisingly lively-- not because of Phil's health probs, but mine: I was bored dead by a box of BBB several years ago. Phil's in fine voice, Dave sings okay, and of course plays his ass off, but only to enhance the material, as well he might. Gene Taylor tickles the ivories, and---although guests like LJ's Don Heffington also keep the rhythm section reet---can't help wishing they'd gotten Bazz and Bateman (who have often been live Blasters with Phil) back in there. But making it a full-fledged Blasters album---suggested title: Broonzy--- might bring back a lot of bad blood, which even seemed like it might bubble up in a couple moments of P&D's recent and v. brotherly Fresh Air interview. Common Ground AKA Truce, eh? I'll take it.

dow, Friday, 22 August 2014 22:16 (nine years ago) link

Lone Justice or Cruzados or Drivin' & Cryin' or Green On Red or Del Fuegos or Jason & The Scorchers or Long Ryders or Bodeans?

Alex, What is Mitchell Froom?

I love this thread. Probably the best of the lot is the first Maria McKee (Can't Pull The Wool Down, Drinkin' In My Sunday Dress), and the Essential Vol. 1 Jason mentioned upthread, though I'll admit to a fondness for the Del Fu-e-gos Slash debut. Just recently decided Gas, Food, Lodging is vastly overrated, and a get re-acquainted with Drivin'n'Cryin didn't turn out so well either.

I'm most likely to listen to those weird Latin Playboys records these days anyway.

campreverb, Friday, 22 August 2014 22:57 (nine years ago) link

Common Ground: Dave Alvin & Phil Alvin Play and Sing the Songs of Big Bill Broonzy

i've seen phil and dave play this stuff live twice this year. full-band electric set at sxsw was loose and fun if not great. mostly what i remember, from my perch pretty close to the stage, was that phil looked 90 years old but sounded 30 years old. that voice of his is protected by the good lord. in los angeles a couple weeks ago, at one of gary calamar's mimosa music brunches in north hollywood, they played acoustic, just the two of them, and it was fantastic. i'm pretty sure it was the first time i've ever seen dave play an acoustic live (mostly a national steel) -- he's good at it, needless to say -- and certainly the first time i've seen either of them before noon. dave sang more than i expected (and more than i probably would've liked) but the years have been kind to his voice, too. there's more voice there than there used to be. the songs worked great in that setting. also, not surprisingly, the alvins have no idea what mimosas are.

fact checking cuz, Friday, 22 August 2014 23:50 (nine years ago) link

Yes...Latin Playboys records are great. Mustard from the 2nd album could be a hit.

kornrulez6969, Saturday, 23 August 2014 16:21 (nine years ago) link

also, not surprisingly, the alvins have no idea what mimosas are.

I kinda love this detail.

Ned Raggett, Saturday, 23 August 2014 19:46 (nine years ago) link

Two Green on Red items:

http://blurtonline.com/feature/college-rock-chronicles-pt-4-green-red/

“I was in a band that got thrown on the bill with these ‘Paisley dudes,’” recalls Prophet, of his initial encounter with the band. “My first impression was they looked like guys who should be operating the rides at a carnival. They played and it blew my mind! It was chaotic as hell, but really entertaining and musical, and the songs were there.”

Also, have had this as a bootleg on vinyl since high school, just found the video recently:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ixKJq3F4lXo

the one where, as balls alludes (Eazy), Saturday, 23 August 2014 20:13 (nine years ago) link

Dan Stuart was only in his mid 20s during the GOE mid 80s peak?

He seems a lot older

Actually a lot of these people seem older than the Husker Du/Replacements/Minutemen crowd, even if they really werent at all.

Master of Treacle, Sunday, 24 August 2014 04:03 (nine years ago) link

GOR = Green on Red

Master of Treacle, Sunday, 24 August 2014 04:04 (nine years ago) link

three weeks pass...

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Until then, you can stream our new "jamming, occasionally neurotic" album at Esquire Magazine: http://www.esquire.com/blogs/culture/chuck-prophet-night-surfer

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dow, Wednesday, 17 September 2014 22:47 (nine years ago) link

Oops sorry, here's the gigs of which Prophet speaks:

http://chuckprophet.com/gigs/

dow, Wednesday, 17 September 2014 22:49 (nine years ago) link

I forgot that I used to have a Maria McKee solo record. maybe even two of them? I think they were good.

akm, Thursday, 18 September 2014 04:16 (nine years ago) link

You Gotta Sin to Get Saved is really really good.

Johnny Fever, Thursday, 18 September 2014 04:35 (nine years ago) link

seconded

chromecassettes, Sunday, 21 September 2014 03:39 (nine years ago) link

From Nashville, not LA, but def adding to the tiny, out-behind-the-barn cowpunk pantheon: Jason & The Scorchers roll through Irving Plaza, live for local radio and recording for King Biscuit Flour or Flower Hour's syndicated source of so much liberated goodness. '84, "we just signed with EMI-American," fresh 'n' fuzztone-branded, slamming back and forth in the cattle car, with every song I can recall, except "Both Sides of the Line." Not too fast or slow, only 41'21 seconds, though intense enough that I had to take a short break halfway through, which is rare. Only prob: Jason's vocals are so wholesome, he sometimes makes zingers and sexual sour grapes come across like light breakfast materials, but doesn't misplace the caffeine, and certainly nails the stood-up "how could this happen to Meeee?!" of Kid D.'s "Absolutey Sweet Marie."
http://bigozine2.com/roio/?p=1975

dow, Monday, 29 September 2014 17:16 (nine years ago) link

I'm really enjoying this Scorchers show ... I can't believe I remember all those goofy lyrics. Seeing them in 1982 was a life lesson. This is a much more faithful representation of their strengths than any of the studio recordings.

Brad C., Tuesday, 30 September 2014 00:42 (nine years ago) link

three months pass...

Dan Stuart's testimony, reviewed on Amazon by Chuck Prophet (and others):

http://www.amazon.com/Deliverance-Marlowe-Billings-Memoir-Stuart/dp/0957171722/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1421286640&sr=8-2&keywords=dan+stuart

dow, Tuesday, 20 January 2015 00:49 (nine years ago) link

one month passes...

Green on Red, Raleigh '85:
Same source as the Jason & Scorchers set posted above, though not as consistent: they're having occasional mic problems, as they eventually mention, though it's most noticeable early on, although the playing is pretty straight-ahead. Only prob: almost an hour of mostly mid-tempo, and Stonesiness can slip into Pettyness, though I realize most people wouldn't mention TP in a negative sense. Vibier levels do open wider in "Down By The River" and "Sea of Cortez," back to back in the middle; ditto the locomotive finale, "Fading Away." Also good "Hair of the Dog" and others. Works better when the keyboards get more room, but some quite pertinent pickin' too. H'mmm, wonder what GOR Spotify might have? Oh yeah, the link!
http://bigozine2.com/roio/?p=2202

dow, Monday, 23 February 2015 00:34 (nine years ago) link

one month passes...

Speaking of the Scorchers, Warren Hodges is playing lead (for sure) with Drivin N Cryin om MusicCityRoots.com's livestream right now, also audio-only (cool on headphones) at http://www.hippieradio945.com/ Click on Listen live (or check podcast on musiccityroots. com tomorrow or soon)

dow, Thursday, 26 March 2015 02:21 (nine years ago) link

MusicCityRoots.com's *livestream,* I meant to say

dow, Thursday, 26 March 2015 02:22 (nine years ago) link

Livestream, dammit!

dow, Thursday, 26 March 2015 02:22 (nine years ago) link

three weeks pass...

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THE TEXTONES’ FIRST TWO ALBUMS
— MIDNIGHT MISSION AND CEDAR CREEK —
TO BE REISSUED IN EXPANDED EDITIONS
BY OMNIVORE RECORDINGS ON MAY 26
Carla Olson’s ’80s band combined punk, power pop and Texas roots.
Albums feature guest appearances by Gene Clark, Ry Cooder,
Ian McLagan, and Howie Epstein,
plus co-write with former Textones member Kathy Valentine.
LOS ANGELES, Calif. — Taking the early ’80s L.A. club scene by storm, the Textones were respected by those in the know for both their song craft and musicianship, as well as for their groundbreaking hybrid of new wave and what would one day become known as Americana. On May 26, 2015, Omnivore Recordings will reissue expanded editions of the band’s first two albums, Midnight Mission and Cedar Creek.
The Textones released an EP in the U.K. and a single in the U.S. But it was after singer/guitarist Carla Olson brought in guitarist George Callins, multi-instrumentalist Tom Junior Morgan, bassist Joe Read, and former Dwight Twilley Band member Phil Seymour on drums to the lineup that the magic truly happened.
Signing to Danny Goldberg’s Gold Mountain label, the Textones’ debut album, Midnight Mission, encompassed everything they’d done, and took it a step further. Produced by Barry Goldberg and Brad Gilderman, and featuring contributions from Gene Clark, Ry Cooder, and Don Henley, Midnight Mission was a mix of rock, blues, and country that captured the band’s live energy. After Olson appeared in Bob Dylan’s “Sweeheart Like You” video, he offered up an unreleased song, “Clean Cut Kid,” which blended perfectly with the band’s originals.
This reissue features five bonus tracks — three songs recorded for the film Sylvester, as well as a two previously unissued live cuts from their performance on Rock of the 80’s, recorded in 1984 at the Palace in Hollywood.
Robert Hilburn wrote in the Los Angeles Times: “ Olson, a lanky singer and songwriter moves about the stage with the sensual confidence of Tom Petty ... Midnight Mission is a refreshing blend of American rock purity and clear eyes commentary ...”
Echoed Mikal Gilmore in the Los Angeles Herald-Examiner: “ A roaring and thoughtful delight. Workingman populism and Rolling Stones-style rave-ups ... Like Bruce Springsteen, Olson took an unsparing look at the dissolution of the American Dream and newly resolved. Listening to her, so did I.”

It would be three years before the Textones followed up their acclaimed debut, Midnight Mission. But, it was well worth the wait.
Cedar Creek appeared in 1987 on a new label, Enigma Records, and Carla Olson, George Callins, Joe Read, and Tom Junior Morgan were joined by new drummer Rick Hemmert.
Produced this time by Michael Stone and the band, Cedar Creek features nine originals, including a co-write with original Textone (and Go-Go’s member) Kathy Valentine, who left the group in 1981 to find fame with the Go-Go’s. And, much like its predecessor, legendary contributors like future Rock ’n’ Roll Hall of Famers Ian McLagan and Howie Epstein make appearances.
John Fogerty said of the song “No Love in You” (three versions of which are included amongst the two reissues): “ Not only is ‘No Love in You’ my favorite song of 1984 but I always look forward to driving somewhere so I can listen to it four or five times.”
In addition to the original album the oft-bootlegged 1987 performance from the Catalyst in Santa Cruz gets an official release. The blistering eight-track set features songs from both of the band’s albums. According to Olson in the new liner notes, “I don’t wag my tail much about this, but the Catalyst show is one of the best examples of how well I can sing when it all works. It’s some of the best singing I’ve ever done.”
Olson is excited to have this music out there once again: “ As the sticker on the original release of Cedar Creek announced, ‘Rock With Roots, the great Rolling Stones album the Stones never recorded.’ That kind of high praise was unexpected, especially in light of the similar response Midnight Mission received and its middling commercial success. It further stated, ‘Take a pinch of Austin, Texas, a dash of L.A., mix in commanding vocals and crackling guitars and you've got the perfect recipe for a classic album.’ We were ahead of our time or just didn’t get the breaks needed? An artist never knows. What I do know is that when the Textones played together we created a musical fabric never far from our many influences and diverse backgrounds and that the connection we felt between us was one of the joy of entertaining and the hopefulness of our music. We are glad the music is being made available again especially with the live set that we've added to Cedar Creek. We were one hell of a rock ’n’ roll band.”
Midnight Mission track listing:
1. Standing in the Line
2. Hands of the Working Man
3. No Love in You
4. Running
5. Number One Is to Survive
6. Midnight Mission
7. Upset Me
8. Luck Don’t Last Forever
9. Clean Cut Kid
10. See the Light
Bonus Tracks
11. It’s Okay
12. Just a Matter of Time
13. Number One Is to Survive (Alternate Version)
14. Running(Live)
15. No Love in You (Live)
Cedar Creek track listing:
1. Not Afraid
2. Every Angel in Heaven
3. Another Soul Searcher
4. One Love
5. Austin
6. Gotta Get Back Home
7. You Can Run
8. Cedar Creek
9. We Can Laugh About It
Bonus Live Set Recored at the Catalyst, Santa Cruz, Ca, 11/20/1987:
10. Gotta Get Back Home
11. Not Afraid
12. No Love in You
13. You Can Run
14. Austin
15. Upset Me
16. Every Angel in Heaven
17. Standing in the Line

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