ILM is kinda sucking these days (boring and meta ignore not safe for work)

you guys are almost making me want to check out the goon thread. ALMOST.

actually i should probably check it out just for some video action. that's the one thing my facebook is lacking is people posting cool new videos/songs. i need new facebook friends. the only rap i get on facebook is from ethan. and i appreciate it cuz i usually haven't heard what he posts. facebook is how i found out about kendrick lamar.

I find out about music by watching what Ned posts on facebook

I think think ilm has been really good lately tbh

u would what with ur super awesome takoma thread

Also I think the goons do a good job, and the thread is no more combative than it ever was.

It's pretty easy to project feelings about hip hop right now onto the goons, but honestly we're in a weird place, there will always be good and exiting hip hop to listen to but I think it's old enough now where it's more like rock or jazz and any changes are going to be more evolutionary or variations on style rather than revolutionary

For a lot of us, that's strange as for say 25 years you could pretty much count on hip hop to be on the cultural and musical vanguard, so it's natural to think that it always would be, but that simply can't be sustained forever. It's not a ”new” musical form anymore, even though I kept thinking about it like that.

All that's not to say that hip hop won't be good or interesting to listen to in the future, there's still plenty of rock and jazz and even classical that's great

My point being if you can find anyone that stays more on top of hip hop than the goons I'd be surprised, and their enthusiasm is great

that's strange as for say 25 years you could pretty much count on hip hop to be on the cultural and musical vanguard

The cultural vanguard? Really? Significant aspects of it have seemed pretty retrograde over the years. Not prepared to argue the point, so it might be wiser not to comment, but I really can't let that go by without some response. Maybe I could see it as in the vanguard in a canary in the mine shaft type of thing.

pop culture/style culture I meant

All that's not to say that hip hop won't be good or interesting to listen to in the future, there's still plenty of rock and jazz and even classical that's great

even classical, yeah..

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sorry about that er my own way of saying there is awesomeness around in many things if you dig but strike that as projecting blah.

is this thread about ilm or hip hop/goons?

either way, ilm is p much the only place i can regularly count on someone having anything in common with me (wrt music) so i would feel kinda lost without it now. where could i talk about popol vuh and shirley collins and and and? how could i ask questions about experimental bagpipe music, etc? afaict everything is just fine on ilm for fringe weirdos.

otm. there are very few people irl who i can BS with about weirdo music. i'm not looking for much else, let's just BS, people!

tl; dr any of that but anyone check out /mu from time to time, or is active over there? every time i check i get something good out of it, learn about some new sound and whatnot.

What's /mu?

music board on 4chan. particularly special place considering the quantity of content that is posted over there and nothing is archived. or maybe i am just lucky. last time i checked there was a thread about microtonal dance music like this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pLfYdfO3bgE and a noise suggestion thread where i heard of torturing nurse https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rGd7Gy1Wwac . noise threads seems to pop up frequently

ps let's have a minute of silence for the poor nurses that get so mistreated in the realm of harsh zik.

Hmm I've always been afraid of 4chan

why would i go there when i can stay here? the people here are mostly nice.

afaict everything is just fine on ilm for fringe weirdos.

Yes yes fuck yes. There is so much fine music I have discovered from ILM including Shirley Collins and Popol Voh. I lost touch with Hip Hop well over 10 years ago when I became a bit of a Golden Age stuckist. I wouldn't post on one of these goonie threads because I would probably get ripped for being a dull monosyllabic clueless fuck. But I am glad they exist, because I am still going to pick up on the odd mixtape/album off them. I only discovered ILM a few years ago so I still don't take it for granted and think it is the ultimate music resource.

regarding 4chan : content wise they have some of the best sub boards on television & film, music, fashion, literature, health, travel etc
but it helps to have a thick skin for the rare times a troll shows up to post something disturbing. why go there, well the thread title says "ilm is kinda sucking these days" so i was listing a place to check out if one feels like it. anonymity and ephemerality sure is another game tho and it's always nice to come back "home" to familiar names.

regarding music on reddit , they have a bunch of boards but in my experience they are not very satisfying.
couple ok places would be http://www.reddit.com/r/listentothis r/futurefunkairlines (sort of a rolling dance music thread but more meh)
and http://www.reddit.com/r/RepublicOfMusic (only content created or published within the last three months is allowed)

my only point of posting itt at all was to say that ilm is not sucking/is not partic boring from my perspective.

dig. to me it varies over time.

LL otm; ILM delivers as always

other message boards i have seen make me cringe. make all you dopes look like friggin' super geniuses.

the goon thread is such a red herring, none of the other rolling threads are at all like it. the only reason it's intimidating to go in is because of the inefficient admin shipz mentioned upthread, and because the regulars post so much - most days, 100 new answers isn't surprising, and that's even if someone hasn't decided to be pedantic. but the only zings are directed at each other, not n00bs. also, as someone who has been a n00b in my time, it's fairly easy to ask neophyte questions and get civil responses - it's easy to tell when someone isn't really interested in engaging with a genre, and obviously fans of that genre don't take well to that.

mostly i agree with la lechera, as much as the internet has expanded ilm is one of the few places i feel like i can talk about pop music with people on a similar wavelength to me. ilm has plenty of negative points but almost every day there's something positive i read or hear through it.

other message boards i have seen make me cringe. make all you dopes look like friggin' super geniuses.

― scott seward, Saturday, January 26, 2013 8:15 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

this is it p much. I mean there are plenty of other places where people bring deep knowledge but they tend to overwhelmingly be tossers about it

Pretty much agree. Truth be told thought about jumping ship at one point to some kind of other message board but didn't want to end up
1) Finding out well-known jazz critic whose opinions I respected is actually kind of a blowhard
2) Learning to hate jazz or something else the way I've learned to hate "Music"

/slight_rhetorical_exaggeration_but_not_much

But if I didn't stick around where would I get those cherce nuggets like Dr. Tim Finney analyses billstevejim?

other message boards i have seen make me cringe. make all you dopes look like friggin' super geniuses.

― scott seward, Saturday, January 26, 2013 8:15 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

seward otm as usual.

Other borads try to imitate us

http://ihatemusic.noquam.com/

that's often an interesting borad, j0n @bbey and d@n w@rburt0n know their avant shit

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IcjSDZNbOs0&feature=youtube_gdata_player

ihatemusic has been around a pretty long time now. Kudos to those guys for keeping it going.

not posted there in a long time

This thread makes me feel like I haven't kept up my end of making goon threads imposing to outsiders enough. :/

Dissensus--c/d?

do other boards (reddit/somethingawful/etc) have threads about ilx like ilx has about them?

Do we have a thread about something awful

II'm sure chakis board Haas had some threads about us

searching 'something awful' immediately brought up two threads about them

dissensus got pretty slow/dead when all the heavy theory people left. it kinda felt like things fizzled out/shot their wad after the big 'nuum debate five(?) or so years ago

"This thread makes me feel like I haven't kept up my end of making goon threads imposing to outsiders enough. :/"

could there possibly be people intimidated by the right rod rev? such a sweetypie!

I know, I'm slacking.

Rod Flash?

on occasion i've wondered what it would be like to be nasty and snarky on ilx. would it be fun? i've gotten pissed off before and i always feel like i can't really be mean because it would be too...uh, mean. cuz if you aren't usually rude/mean then it feels worse to the person you are being mean/rude to. i've made bad jokes before and had my tone misinterpreted and i feel like when that happens things get magnified. sometimes you have to be careful on the internet! i always try to apologize right away. or explain what i meant. god i actually remember almost every time that someone took something i said the wrong way! that's how careful i am. i still cringe when i think of those moments.

(and sometimes you can be insensitive and not even know it. i bitched about polls years ago and pfunkboy still thinks that its personal. and it really isn't. i just got sick of polls a long time ago. not the people who love them. i'm telling you, you gotta be careful on the internet. people can't see you or hear you.)

xp - i stopped paying attention to I Hate Mus1c when some mod deleted one of Warburton's posts where he actually questioned the perfection of Keith Rowe and commented that IHM might as well be called the Keith Rowe Fan Club.