tame impala are really good but i have no idea how anyone can tell one song from the other
I think "Feels Like..." got traction on EOY lists and such just b/c it was a single and has a cool video. But the other single, "Elephant," stands out from the album a bit more, IMO.
― jaymc, Monday, 21 January 2013 22:39 (thirteen years ago)
ILM poll is the time each year where I'm confronted with things I ordinarily wouldn't hear (even with the Spotify noms playlist, I can't devote attention to everything). I'm with J0rdan in that giving everything a shot is the best way to experience these rollouts. You're not going to like everything, but boastful hating is lame imo.
― Johnny Fever, Monday, 21 January 2013 22:40 (thirteen years ago)
I really want japandroids to go on tour with japanther and japancakes. also, for bands to stop with the japainful japunny japandnames.
― Frederik B, Monday, January 21, 2013 4:17 PM (53 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
this is otm, will never listen to any of these bands
― the legend of bigger yansh (some dude), Monday, 21 January 2013 22:40 (thirteen years ago)
Stood through an hour of Marcus Nasty mixing jackin last Thursday (expertly, must be said) and was left pretty unmoved. "You Want Me" is making a lot more sense tho. Perhaps these things really need an MC over them to be interesting to me. Same with "Au Seve" actually, only makes sense with Maxwell D being super dorky over it.
― Mercer Finn, Monday, 21 January 2013 22:41 (thirteen years ago)
recap:
77. DAWN RICHARD "Pretty Wicked Things" [188 points, 6 votes]75. CHROMATICS "Kill For Love" [188 points, 7 votes]75. ALUNAGEORGE "You Know You Like It" [188 points, 7 votes]74. ANDRÉS "New For U" [190 points, 6 votes]73. JAVIERA MENA "Luz de Piedra de Luna" [190 points, 7 votes]71. PULP "After You" [192 points, 6 votes]71. G-DRAGON "Crayon" [192 points, 6 votes]70. TY DOLLA $IGN "My Cabana" [193 points, 8 votes]69. FUTURE "Same Damn Time" [194 points, 6 votes, 1 first place vote]68. NICKI MINAJ FT. 2 CHAINZ "Beez in the Trap" [198 points, 9 votes]67. NICKI MINAJ "Starships" [200 points, 8 votes]66. DAWN RICHARD "Faith" [202 points, 7 votes]65. JAPANDROIDS "The House That Heaven Built" [203 points, 7 votes]64. GURU "Lapaz Toyota" [204 points, 6 votes]63. DONKIE PUNCH & LORENZO "Snapbacks n Tattoos" [206 points, 6 votes]62. NICK HANNAM & TOM GARNETT FT. TOM ZANETTI "You Want Me" [214 points, 6 votes, 1 first place vote]61. TAME IMPALA "Feels Like Only We Go Backwards" [214 points, 8 votes]
― Johnny Fever, Monday, 21 January 2013 22:41 (thirteen years ago)
I haven't heard most of these but I'm waiting for the spotify playlist to be done so I can listen to all of them at once.
― congratulations (n/a), Monday, 21 January 2013 22:41 (thirteen years ago)
Thanks so far Jordan. Bit underwhelmed at the beginning but there are five killer tunes in here.
As for the rock tracks we should all stop this and go back to our Sun City Girls stash.
― xyzzzz__, Monday, 21 January 2013 22:42 (thirteen years ago)
rmde
― Butt Trump tweet (Matt P), Monday, 21 January 2013 22:43 (thirteen years ago)
even though i agree re: rock
only one of mine to show up so far is "Same Damn Time," which was my #1. pretty lame that it actually did better on P&J than on ilx.
― the legend of bigger yansh (some dude), Monday, 21 January 2013 22:43 (thirteen years ago)
Tame Impala was more fun in 2010 when the band was just the Aussie equivalent of Dungen and not such a critics' darling. But I still like 'em.
― jaymc, Monday, 21 January 2013 22:43 (thirteen years ago)
Which ones are the rock tracks? Tame Impala and Japandroids? Maybe Pulp and Chromatics could slip in under that designation, but barely.
― Johnny Fever, Monday, 21 January 2013 22:44 (thirteen years ago)
people probably vote-split between 'same damn time' and 'turn on the lights,' obv the latter's gonna do much better xp
― 乒乓, Monday, 21 January 2013 22:44 (thirteen years ago)
I actually think TA is fine but I don't get what's special about them
― congratulations (n/a), Monday, 21 January 2013 22:45 (thirteen years ago)
"Same Damn Time" easily my fav so far
― Butt Trump tweet (Matt P), Monday, 21 January 2013 22:45 (thirteen years ago)
Japandroids straight up suck though
i voted for both, problem solved :)
― the legend of bigger yansh (some dude), Monday, 21 January 2013 22:45 (thirteen years ago)
Not my favourite day ever in an ILM pollout; just one of my votes placed (Javiera Mena) and just one new discovery I really loved (Lapaz Toyota). Roll on tomorrow!
― questino (seandalai), Monday, 21 January 2013 22:45 (thirteen years ago)
Nicki Minaj - Starships. Is this a fucking joke? Rhyming "fly" with "sky" and THEN "high"? And the terrible Guetta breakdown. Awful awful awful.
Japandroids - soooo boring.
"Lapaz Toyota" - decent. Wish the drumrolls and "lapaz toyota" bits weren't there. When is this "Barbara Streisand" shit gonna end? Although it's interesting how it's pretty restrained here and is just another element among the mountain of hooks in this song.
"Snapbacks n Tattoos" - sounds so reserved after the previous track. Whoa...how did this become a hip-hop track?
― DigitalDjigit, Monday, 21 January 2013 22:46 (thirteen years ago)
to return to the chromatics, I agree that prob not as good as their earlier neon ice palace work, but still good, and it helps to watch the music vids, they probably have my favorite aesthetic out of any band in music rite now, warm fuzzed out 8mm revivalism
http://i.imgur.com/Yk0NblH.jpg
― 乒乓, Monday, 21 January 2013 22:47 (thirteen years ago)
Wait...there's a difference between "Funky" and "Jackin'" house? Hair-splitting, IMO.
― DigitalDjigit, Monday, 21 January 2013 22:47 (thirteen years ago)
digitaldjigit you ought to listen to the original: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BayLotJJeXE
of all the aussie stuff to take off i never would have expected lame impala to be the biggest. also worst production, fridmann must die
― dutch tl;drs (electricsound), Monday, 21 January 2013 22:48 (thirteen years ago)
x-post
Those jackin house tracks (and others I've heard) don't sound like funky to me at all, and I'm not remotely a specialist in this stuff.
― _Rudipherous_, Monday, 21 January 2013 22:49 (thirteen years ago)
I do like how restrained those two jackin tracks are, with just the right placement of sounds and vocals
― Dan S, Monday, 21 January 2013 22:50 (thirteen years ago)
Anyone care to tumblr these? the way they did with the electronic poll?
http://ilxpolls.tumblr.com/
― Moka, Monday, 21 January 2013 22:50 (thirteen years ago)
― the legend of bigger yansh (some dude), Monday, January 21, 2013 2:43 PM Bookmark
As much as I love "Same Damn Time", voting for Pluto and "Turn on the Lights" and "Loveeeeeee Song" felt like enough.
― The Reverend, Monday, 21 January 2013 22:51 (thirteen years ago)
I bet loads have voted for their (TI) album as well. This shit is even more unbearable than Jarvis Cocker.
― Damo Suzuki's Parrot, Monday, 21 January 2013 22:53 (thirteen years ago)
voted for 'my cabana' and 'you want me' so far. love 'luz de piedra de luna', but think of it as a 2010 song.
― karl...arlk...rlka...lkar..., Monday, 21 January 2013 22:57 (thirteen years ago)
― DigitalDjigit, Monday, January 21, 2013 2:47 PM Bookmark
Funky is more syncopated in a rigid 16th-note grid, more prone to dotted-note cross-rhythms and usually abandons 4x4. Whereas jackin' (correct me if wrong) is based more on a 4x4 triplet-feel garage shuffle. I suspect jackin' doesn't have much truck with funky's r&b-isms and funky never really was sample-based like jackin' seems to be.
― The Reverend, Monday, 21 January 2013 23:00 (thirteen years ago)
― Johnny Fever, Monday, 21 January 2013 Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
those four yeah not being genre tight or anything.
― xyzzzz__, Monday, 21 January 2013 23:00 (thirteen years ago)
(I say this while not knowing jack about jackin', but bear with me)
― The Reverend, Monday, 21 January 2013 23:02 (thirteen years ago)
Enjoyed almost everything so far but these are standouts:
ALUNAGEORGE "You Know You Like It"FUTURE "Same Damn Time" (especially this)
― DigitalDjigit, Monday, 21 January 2013 23:02 (thirteen years ago)
I was thinking of mentioning syncopation, but glad I left it for The Rev to explain better. Actually, funky makes me want to dance more than most house (not that I've ever heard it out, and not that I am able to get out much any more), but it's closer to the more "organic" feel of the Latin dance music I like, so that makes sense.
― _Rudipherous_, Monday, 21 January 2013 23:03 (thirteen years ago)
love 'luz de piedra de luna', but think of it as a 2010 song.
― karl...arlk...rlka...lkar..., Monday, January 21, 2013 5:57 PM (6 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
like I was gonna see 'javiera mena' on a list and not vote for her
― 乒乓, Monday, 21 January 2013 23:04 (thirteen years ago)
Yeah, I definitely notice the snares in funky doing that Caribbean thing. But that seemed like a pretty small difference to hang a genre division on. I wouldn't say "Snapbacks & Tattoos" is free of r'n'b-isms. I know how British people love to categorize everything especially as it seems that there's a geographical north/south divide going on between funky & jackin.
― DigitalDjigit, Monday, 21 January 2013 23:05 (thirteen years ago)
There are some attempts to lay a def in the rolling 2012 UKG interzone bubblers thread, but its an evolving thing, UK garagey based.
― xyzzzz__, Monday, 21 January 2013 23:06 (thirteen years ago)
genrefication is an essential part of how dance music works in general tho. fairly minor tweaks in genre logic completely change how a track fits in with others (or doesn't) in a set.
― The Reverend, Monday, 21 January 2013 23:08 (thirteen years ago)
I don't hear the r&b-isms you hear in "Snapbacks and Tattoos" but at any rate, it's not the kind of melodic vocal tune funky frequently trades in.
― The Reverend, Monday, 21 January 2013 23:12 (thirteen years ago)
hmmm noticing that none of today's were on my ballot has made me more excited for the rest of the results
― teledyldonix, Monday, 21 January 2013 23:16 (thirteen years ago)
lapaz toyota & luz de piedra de luna are both new to me & awesome, kudos everyone. not really made any effort w/ afrobeats stuff but i've enjoyed everything that's fallen into my lap. voted for beez because it's the track i've caught myself singing the most this year, & the two jackin tracks. warms my heart to think i live in times where a peculiar transatlantic monster like snapbacks&tattoos is possible. love same damn time also but voted for other future
― ogmor, Monday, 21 January 2013 23:17 (thirteen years ago)
"Yeah, I definitely notice the snares in funky doing that Caribbean thing. But that seemed like a pretty small difference to hang a genre division on."
uk funky - caribbean + afro flavoured, veers from 4x4, "organic" sounding
jackin - descendent from bassline + electro-house, straight 4x4, up norf ravey plasticky sound
if you consider that a "pretty small difference" then i guess you're... not into house music at all?
― Mind Taker, Monday, 21 January 2013 23:18 (thirteen years ago)
― DigitalDjigit, Monday, 21 January 2013 10:47 PM (2 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
The two sound nothing alike, and Jackin didn't evolve out of Funky. I can understand people not getting why Jackin' needs its own genre term but not them conflating it with Funky.
I suspect jackin' doesn't have much truck with funky's r&b-isms and funky never really was sample-based like jackin' seems to be.
This is probably correct only to the extent that jackin' doesn't have much truck with fully fledged vocalists (i.e. is unlikely to produce a Katy B, at least at this stage); conversely, it's probably less instrumental-heavy than funky, and there are a billion bootlegs of R&B tunes (e.g. the excellent jackin' version of "No Diggity").
― Tim F, Monday, 21 January 2013 23:19 (thirteen years ago)
House and dance rivals only metal for having the most inane subgenres.
― Johnny Fever, Monday, 21 January 2013 23:21 (thirteen years ago)
how 'inane'
― Tim F, Monday, 21 January 2013 23:23 (thirteen years ago)
The two sound nothing alike, and Jackin didn't evolve out of Funky.
But both came out of garidge, no?
― DigitalDjigit, Monday, 21 January 2013 23:26 (thirteen years ago)
No.
― Tim F, Monday, 21 January 2013 23:27 (thirteen years ago)
nice list so far
i for one am really looking forward to what fresh unsolicited opinions from befuddled daytripper fucknuts tomorrow might bring
― r|t|c, Monday, 21 January 2013 23:28 (thirteen years ago)
xpost except in the broad sense that people who were into funky in 2008 and people who are into jackin' now are each likely to be people who were or would have been (given the primary audience for each is quite a bit younger than that) into UK garage in 1999.
― Tim F, Monday, 21 January 2013 23:29 (thirteen years ago)
explain yourself tim? i'd say they both did, but they evolved in separate directions. a wolf isn't a coyote.
― The Reverend, Monday, 21 January 2013 23:29 (thirteen years ago)