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edd, don, roy, anybody -- do any of you have a marshall chapman opinion i can borrow? i don't have one, or never have before anyway. i remember her having some fans in creem magazine in the late '70s/early '80s, but i can't remember why. press release for her horribly titled new album *mellowicious* tried to identify her as a proto-lucinda, which i didn't find promising, but then i put it on and the first couple tracks made me think more of carlene carter (feisty but effervescent), which i *did* find promising. but then the next several seemed more like a bland triple A coffeehouse, and i gave up (though one of them, "i'm just pitiful that way," did seem to take its melody from "love is strange" by mickey and sylvia.) anyway, should i quit while i'm ahead, or should i give her more of a chance?

xhuxk, Friday, 3 February 2006 22:18 (twenty years ago)

You could borrow my opinion, only I don't have one. Chapman is a name I've heard a lot in the past but I own nothing by her, have some vague memory of "Somewhere South of Macon" but...Sorry totally unhelpful. And her new record hasn't shown up yet.

Roy Kasten (Roy Kasten), Friday, 3 February 2006 23:36 (twenty years ago)

What has shown up, though, is this Fern Jones reissue "Glory Road" which if I had heard last year might very well have knocked Poole out of my top reissue slot. Holy unholy honky tonk gospel bust out with Sugarfoot Garland playing like he wants Elvis to give him a fucking raise. More later.

Roy Kasten (Roy Kasten), Friday, 3 February 2006 23:41 (twenty years ago)

Been a long time since I listened to Marshall, but see http://www.robertchristgau.com Sometimes came on like a "female Outlaw": def female, fairly often outside the law, but too rock n rolly to fit with Willie and Waylon, and too preoccupied with her "pearshaped speedfreak boyfriends".Especially Dave Hickey, who also contributed songs. Choice tales and words of Guru Dave ("A quitter never loses and a loser never quits")can be found in Marshall's autobio, Goodbye Little Rock And Roller, which has a soundtrack too, but I haven't heard that. See her website for music and news, think it's http://www.marshallchapman.com/ but it's been a while. I can't find the Ballot comments section at the Scene site; anybody got the speecific URL for the comments??? Himes' essay touched on some of the same themes I covered last year, which is not a complaint; it's due to to the turgidity of American malaise, mayonnaise, and the country release schedule/strategy. (I wrote about "There's More Where That Came From" a year ago, and, pace Himes, there really ain't more; she said all she had to say then).Also, it's due to me being a quickdraw, yet hiding my light under the well-known bushel. Anyway, here's the URL for my comments on '04 (you might have to scroll down a little to get to mine, but it's worth it: http://thefreelancementalists.blogspot.com/2005_02_01_thefreelancementalists_archive.html

don, Saturday, 4 February 2006 05:12 (twenty years ago)

me on world music thread:

>Also, good article in Sunday's Times about perennial polka grammy winner Jimmy Sturr. I kinda can't stand Sturr's slicked-up sound; haven't really been keeping up with polka lately (a few years ago I listened to all five polka grammy nominees and my favorite was Eddie Blacsconszyk of Chicago, shown flipping panckaes on that particularly CD cover and also quoted in the Times article, but I haven't kept up since - -just did a cdbaby.com search for polkas and mainly what seemed to come up was joke bands or bands for the triple A alt-country crowd, which i don't THINK is what I want but I may be wrong.) Anyway, the article talks about how Sturr's east coast style (he's from Jersey) is actually quite Vegasy and big-bandy (though he's also known to get guest appearances by lots of country stars), where the Chicago style is more trumpet heavy and the Cleveland Slovenian style is where the accordions get emphasized. So maybe I should search "Cleveland polka," I'm not sure...

xhuxk, Saturday, 4 February 2006 15:36 (twenty years ago)

Almost every polka band description on cdbaby.com seems to start with "this is not your father's (or grandpa's) polka." Not sure why that's considered a good thing (at least if your father or grandpa was a big fan of the Matys Bros and Frankie Yankovic's greatest hits.)

xhuxk, Saturday, 4 February 2006 15:43 (twenty years ago)

>-just did a cdbaby.com search for polkas and mainly what seemed to come up was joke bands or bands for the triple A alt-country crowd, which i don't THINK is what I want but I may be wrong<

actually, i just realized that something similar happens when I try to search there for "western swing." am i being deluded or romanticizing too much to wish that there were great bands playing this stuff, um, "for real" and not just ironic revivalists? are there? i'm sure there are (though I'm not sure how to define "real"); I'm just not sure how to find them.

xhuxk, Saturday, 4 February 2006 15:57 (twenty years ago)

i have some polka cds bought from perogy suppers, they host here, for fundraisers. you go to these things, and they have a table, with pysanka, embrodry, that sort of thing, and a few dusty tapes/books. its only been a few years that they have had cds--but its completely punk, just a bunch of eastern european senior jamming all the polka greats (i also learnt to polka this way, badly)

i dont even know how they record them, frankly.

i also have no idea how a ukranian polka would differ from lets say a hungrian or polish or rommanion.

so where you might need to get polka, is the new york equivlaent of a good old fashioned prarie supper

(the same thing with western swing, sort of---we get an old school country crooner, or the like here once or twice a year, at the pioneer house mostly, and its all the seniors, and their kids, nostalgia circuit sure, but fantastic if you can get it)

Anthony Easton, Saturday, 4 February 2006 16:07 (twenty years ago)

xp:

i mean i guess with both western swing and polka i want it to be fast catchy good-humored complicated highly rhythmic rocking dance music that doesn't seem to constantly pat itself on the back for BEING fast catchy good-humored complicated highly rhythmic rocking dance music (like, you know, when punk bands all the way back to brave combo decide to play polkas), which usually means it ISN'T. In 2006. this may well be a pipe dream; but in both genres, it used to come completely naturally. (i have always thought hot club of cowtown had promise, i guess -- am even a fan of their slowed down version of aerosmith's "chip away at the stone" - but they're totally wimps compared to what milton brown or roy newman or adolph hofner used to be. those guys wouldn't have given a shit about getting a rounder records audience, i don't think.) (interesting, what i'm looking for -- see above - -DOES still exist in southern soul music, though, apparently.)

>where you might need to get polka, is the new york equivlaent of a good old fashioned prarie supper<

ha ha, well, i am walking distance from Greenpoint! So maybe I should just take a walk!

xhuxk, Saturday, 4 February 2006 16:19 (twenty years ago)

(or to put it another way, by hunting for good polka and western swing that have no connection to "alternative" culture in its many guises, am i stupidly hunting for an "authenticity" that doesn't exit?) (and i mean, jimmy sturr and eddie blazonscyzk have no connection with alternative culture, true. but even eddie just really isn't good enough.)

xhuxk, Saturday, 4 February 2006 16:44 (twenty years ago)

I used to have those 3 Epic LPs from late '70s, Chuck. she was briefly a big deal 'round here. always struck me as a more liberal Tanya Tucker, maybe, or like someone who shoulda been on Stiff. proto-Lucinda, I dunno about that, I'm never a fan of Lucinda all that much except for the occasional pretty fair song she writes (and as an aside, I heard this P.F. Sloan album Jon Tiven's finishing up in N-ville, and the best thing on it was a duet with P.F. and Lucinda, so go figure). but Marshall covered Seger (so you might track that one down if you can find it, Chuck, it's "Jaded Virgin," but I haven't any idea if they're in print somewhere, and I'm constantly combing Nashvile for old country vinyl and don't recall seeing any of them lately) and Cash, I think, maybe it was "I Walk the Line," and one of her records was produced by Al Kooper, and if I recall it seemed a bit over-refined. I think her first Epic one was the best, tho, "Me, I'm Feeling Free" was the title. her new 'un hasn't hit here either.

edd s hurt (ddduncan), Saturday, 4 February 2006 17:03 (twenty years ago)

>Canadian and Australian definitions of "country" seem so much less stick-up-the-ass obsessed with "purity" and "tradition" than the US<

and yet both places still seem to have real cowboy music by real cowboys, hmmm...what a paradox!

xhuxk, Saturday, 4 February 2006 17:42 (twenty years ago)

Chuck seek ye out Joni Harms, who is not only one of the biggest names in western swing but also grew up in my hometown and is the cousin of my best friend from high school. (She was "The Sweetheart of Clackamas County"! Also, she actually maintains a working farm in Oregon while raising two kids, so she doesn't have TIME to be pomo.) She WROTE "Cowboy Up," her album Let's Put the Western Back in the Country is dope and completely non-ironic. They have a big conference every year for western music with awards and everything, I'll try to find that link.

Haikunym (Haikunym), Saturday, 4 February 2006 18:18 (twenty years ago)

Here are some performers, maybe.

Haikunym (Haikunym), Saturday, 4 February 2006 18:24 (twenty years ago)

okay, i'll check those out, matt, thanks, but be aware (and to me this is important!) that "western" is not remotely the same as "western swing". (i want the JAZZ in it, see?) (which isn't to say joni harms doesn't have any; i dunno. I will try to listen to her; who knows?)

xhuxk, Saturday, 4 February 2006 19:17 (twenty years ago)

ha ha

http://www.westernmusic.org/performers.cfm?ID=18

xhuxk, Saturday, 4 February 2006 19:44 (twenty years ago)

well of course there's the western swing x polkas of the Mollys, but you want something uncontaminated by alt: try searching on "Tex Czech." Speaking of Australian country, Cyndi Boste is coming to America this spring.Chuck captioned her "cowgirl of the Outback" for my Voice roundup, "Alias In Winderland, and she's a bluesy country singer-songwriter with a deep rich voice, kinda like a more dynamic Tracey Nelson. Probably bringing a very small group, if any (she doesn't really need one). Says she's wanting to play Austin and Nashville, asks for tips on clubs there and elsewhere. Anybody anywhere got any suggestions? Also, how do I get to those damn comments in the Nash Scene Poll?

don, Saturday, 4 February 2006 20:10 (twenty years ago)

Don, here's where the comments for the Scene poll are located--I forget how to make the damn link clickable. what do I put in front of it? anyway, they're kind of hidden at the end of Himes's essay:
http://www.nashscene.com/Stories/Cover_Story/2006/01/19/It_Don_t_Feel_Like_Sinnin_to_Me/index1.shtml

has anyone attended to the Hank III second disc trainwreck enough to tell me what Wayne Hancock song (if it is a Wayne Hancock song, I dunno) Shelton Hank's doing in the midst of all that crap?

edd s hurt (ddduncan), Sunday, 5 February 2006 01:00 (twenty years ago)

Hi all,

Doing a list of best pop/rock covers by country artists. Any suggestions?

Kevin Coyne, Sunday, 5 February 2006 18:12 (twenty years ago)

I listened to the dreadful second Hank III disc enough but can't help you because I don't know anything about Wayne Hancock. Dreadful may be too complimentary, too.

George the Animal Steele, Sunday, 5 February 2006 18:16 (twenty years ago)

john Rich, *Underneath the Same Moon* -- coming out soonish, apparently, on Legacy/BNA; apparently this is the til now unreleased album he made after fleeing Lonestar and before hooking up with Big Kenny, Full of pale love ballads, often sung in an attempted Roy Orbison falsetto, it sounds like, but the guy really needed Big Kenny to help him find his personality (or provide him one). Opens with "I Pray For You," which wound up on the second B&R album and sounds even duller here. Not bad I guess: "She Brings the Lightnin' Down" (only marginally embarrassing funk attempt with gospel backup), "Something To Believe In" (opens with rock guitar riff; talks about an aging Hendrix fan with a 45, a preacher, a stockbroker, and a farmer, all looking for something to etc etc), and especially "Old Blue Mountain" (which John tries to root down in waltz tempo), and "New Jerusalem" (more blatant gospel, seemingly acapella). Not (even) as good as Big Kenny's solo album.

xhuxk, Sunday, 5 February 2006 20:21 (twenty years ago)

xpost thanx for linx to Scene Poll Comments, Edd (good comments, guys.) Edd taped me that new Candi Staton, and I think most of it holds its own with her 72 self-titled, which is saying a lot. On both sets,though,sometimes she just goes with the flow of the medium slow tempi, rather than pushing against it, building momentum. But usually she rises to the occasion, and '72's "Do It In The Name Of Love" is the kind of downhome orchestral that always did leave 90 % of countrypolitan in the zircon dust. (It's also the kind that leaves the usual kind of downhome orcestral, and there's some of that here too.)xpost haven't heard the new Truckers yet; can well believe it's uneven, but have harder time believing that it's so xpost bad. Heard "Feb.14" on World Cafe a couple times: expansive guitar, bidding us all to come have some no-fun, and eventually, some analog synth, or bagpipes, or bagpipe guitar? Big Country's back! xpost haven't heard the new Hank III either. On Risin' Outlaw, he named Wayne Hancock as "my best friend out there," and covered three Wayne songs, road songs, like "Thunderstorms and Neon Signs." Wayne's a good writer, but seemed like (haven't heard him in a while) his own albums could lapse into bareassed/tightassed retro, while Risin' Outlaw kept building momentum Ditto subsequent (and almost all self-written) Lovesick Broke & Driftin'. No dawgshit on either. I suppose his twang could get too cartoony for some, but I think he and his daddy can be great cartoons, with sufficiently shaded-in realness,from a sharp pen (which is the way I think of Separation Sunday, and GnR, Dolls,Bowie, Stooges, Stones, James Brown, etc) (see cartoon refs in my Hank Jr./Hank III review, "The Last Poke Chop": http://www.villagevoice.com/music/0212,allred,33201,22.html/ and re III's cover of "Fearless Boogie" on the ZZ Top trib, in "Sharp Blessed Men": http://www.villagevoice.com/music/0344,tracker_writer.inc,39494,.html/
or if those links don't work see my whole Voice stash at Http://MyVil.blogspot.com/

don, Sunday, 5 February 2006 22:32 (twenty years ago)

The LA Times mag Phoned It In for a roll-out of its new design. A music feature called Mad Hot Music was packed to the gills with the usual assertions and descriptions that ask you to leave your natural detector of horseshit at the door. First off, repeating riff -- LA is a great place for people to wear cowboy hats. As in honky-tonk bars and great homegrown country acts. Now, I've lived here for over a decade, like it a lot, but am not a cheerleader. And I know one thing: If you see someone in club in a cowboy hat, you're in for a long night. And if you see one coming along the sidewalk toward you while walking the dog in the neighborhood -- you're on drugs and hallucinating.

"...track down one of these artists [or head to one of these bars] ... and listen for yourself. Then you'll hear a remarkable sound: Music made for music's sake.

The Cowboy Palace Saloon {in the San Fernando Valley]

"Bordered by Bully's Billiards, a strip club and a liquor store, the Cowboy Palace Saloon calls itself 'the last real Honky Tonk' and it's true to its word ... The Asian cowboy beside me played a harmonica softly to himself, and a man in Wrangler jeans and a 10-gallon hat strummed air guitar on his pool cue.'

Mo' Cowboy Hats

Bruce Burton with King Size

"Great music often sweeps in on the tails of reinvention. Enter Bruce Burchmore, who was born in Bangkok ... and landed at USC to study music history. He mastered the lute...A little more than a year ago, after a painful breakup, Burchmore took his guitar to Manhattan, where he holed up in a hotel for 10 days, writing music and wallowing in melancholy.

"When he emerged he was Bruce Burton, country singer, and he had in his hands the makings of a fine album. Back in LA, he assembled the skeleton of Uncle Cowboy, a band of uncanny talent, which has since been renamed King Size.

"But he isn't the only member of King Size who takes his sorrow straight up...Witness an early memory of Easy Pickens, the band's guitarist, who as a teenager lived in a basement in a bad Vancouver neighborhood. 'I'd just put on a Hank Williams record,' he says, 'skip all the happy songs and drink myself to sleep.'"

Awwww. The only thing missing is the tin of snuff in back pocket.


George the Animal Steele, Monday, 6 February 2006 00:10 (twenty years ago)

Any opinions on Asleep at the Wheel? I can't remember if I've ever heard them. As of midyear '05 Elizabeth McQueen was singing for them.

(P.S. I wrote Elizabeth McQueen telling her I liked the liner notes to Happy Doing What We're Doing a lot and that I wanted her to continue writing about music. The liner notes just made me want to smooch her. (I didn't say this in the email. And the cover photo also had something to do with the desire to smooch.) There's a brain in there, both in her singing and in her commentary. (A brain worth smooching.) Anyway, she was complimented that a writer would want her to write, but she felt she'd probably not want to be a critic while still putting her own music out there, that this would inhibit her. "It's fine to write about the good, but when you get down to the meat and potatoes of criticsm, which is being critical..." A brain, for sure. Maybe we could get her to write about electronica, which she says she's into.)

Frank Kogan (Frank Kogan), Monday, 6 February 2006 20:44 (twenty years ago)

Natalie right that country isn't her, and the blowup was bound to happen sooner or later, and country needs people telling it that it's fucked. And she can surely draw on plenty of great sound and form from other genres, and her voice is dynamite. (Everyone compared Miranda to that blowhard Gretchen, but it's Natalie's cracking-whip and Natalie's warmth that Miranda's got.) But because country wasn't her, this meant that her voice had an uneasy push to it, and the push wasn't into the comfort of alt-land, either. Whereas if she's now just another Sheryl or Bonnie, maybe she'll lose the push. (Or maybe she won't, or maybe if she loses it, that's fine.)

Frank Kogan (Frank Kogan), Monday, 6 February 2006 21:05 (twenty years ago)

Anyone heard the pre-Natalie Chicks?

Frank Kogan (Frank Kogan), Monday, 6 February 2006 21:06 (twenty years ago)

Asleep at the Wheel -- music for fluffy-feeling truckers. Like Commander Cody without "Hot Rod Lincoln" or "It Should've Been Me" or, really the Commander himself. Hmm, never really liked Asleep at the Wheel but times have changed, maybe I would like them with Elizabeth McQueen.

George the Animal Steele, Monday, 6 February 2006 21:37 (twenty years ago)

Asleep at the Wheel did a pretty good Hot Rod Lincoln!

Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Monday, 6 February 2006 21:44 (twenty years ago)

Early 70s Wheel albums were good, fairly tough-minded, and some 80s ones xgau's got on his site, prob, but I only know that orig lineup.xpostp pre-Nat Chicks: yeah, seems like they were winsome but mild, and if only I'd kept those albums, and eBayed them about five years ago (they're prob not getting such big bids now, I suspect). I've got an album by Domestic Science Club, with one of the dumped Chicks; winsome but not so mild, heartfelt, anyway, if well-mannered, and maybe I underrated those Chicks albums. Natalie's dad Lloyd was in the Maines Brothers Band, which I think may've started with his father and uncles, or anyway was kinda trad, and then of course he was in the Joe Ely Band when they toured with the Clash,and plays some some guitar army steel on there, kind of in there between Speedy West and 90s/00s non-steel Skyn country (and also predating the steel player in Dylan's early 90s road band, whose live solos on "Highway 61" extended the police siren on the orig studio version).And Lloyd has produced Pat Green and lots and lots of others, incl Chicks. So she grew up with various motor trends in Texas country (and also gushed about her childhood collection of James Taylor albums, when he and the Chicks did their Crossroads, z-z-z-z). So I can see how she doesn't feel dependant on Nashville bizdom,especially since she got enough money from it. Hey, anybody know who arranged Glenn Campbell's version of "By The Time I Get To Phoenix"? Allmusic lists Jimmie Haskell, Mort Garson, and Leon Russell as arrangers on the By The Time etc.LP. I'm thinking Garson, who did a lot of art pop, but maybe not. So eerie bright and calm, if guilty (he sees how she'll gradually realize he's really gone this time), that Top Fortydelica '67 thing.

don, Monday, 6 February 2006 22:08 (twenty years ago)

from metal AND world music threads:

So, "Politcas Ratas" on the new El Tri album *Mas Alla Del Bien Y Del Mal* sounds like a nicely barbecued '70s ZZ Top rip, but I don't think there's much else on the CD. Lots of '50s rock'n'roll revival, one song that reminds me of "Rockin' in the Free World," I dunno what else. I think this is like their 50th album though, so maybe there's a kick-ass greatest hits album somewhere down in Mexico. Or maybe not.

xhuxk, Monday, 6 February 2006 22:30 (twenty years ago)

for Glen, isn't it Al DeLory who's the arranger?

edd s hurt (ddduncan), Monday, 6 February 2006 23:31 (twenty years ago)

Weren't El Tri supposed to be scarydelic when they started as Three Souls On My Mind? Edd, allmusic didn't mention Al, but that's fairly typical; I'll try googling his name, thanks.

don, Tuesday, 7 February 2006 00:00 (twenty years ago)

Al DeLory is your man, Don. He also arranged "Gentle On My Mind" and "Wichita Lineman" if memory serves. A little factoid: DeLory and Campbell were both Wrecking Crew men.

Roy Kasten (Roy Kasten), Tuesday, 7 February 2006 02:47 (twenty years ago)

Thanks guys. Didn't members of the Wrecking Crew play on the debut albums of the Byrds and the Monkees? But the Monkees were put down as "the Prefab Four." Oh, I just listened again to Hank III's aforementioned Lovesick, Broke & Driftin', and it now sounds more erratic than I thought when reviewing it. But even the duff songs (just two or three--so far!) have some good touches. Prob shouldn't've tried to write so many all by his lonesome; he accepted some help on Risin' Outlaw. But those who don't like high thin nasal twangy voices (even with shading)won't ever like him. George, is the Palamino still open? Any good? Used to be, I heard.

don, Tuesday, 7 February 2006 08:10 (twenty years ago)

Bill Currington fared very badly on the Stylus singles reviews this week, despite me.

Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Tuesday, 7 February 2006 13:38 (twenty years ago)

>*Rollergirl* soundtrack: (Best to just end before the final two tracks, though--some dumb Fat Possum hick shtick by Bob Log III, then seven minutes of Ani Difranco singing "Amazing Grace," though "singing" is maybe too nice.) <

I actually decided I don't hate the Bob Log III song, "Log Bomb". Not that it's really a song per se'; more like just a sound, this high-pitched attempt to recreate old-timey backwoods blues country as some kinda newfangled avant-garde slide shuffle -- reminds me of what the Hi Sheriffs of Blue were doing in NY a quarter-century ago, but not nearly as good. Still, not bad. Like, yeah, a log bobbing up and down in the water. (The Ani Difranco track is still unbearable, however.)

I actually thought that at one point I wrote up a Voice choice for Bob Log for the listings page that never got printed, but here's what I was thinking about instead (this thing may well be five years old):

"LONESOME BOB--Quite a buzz in alt-c&w circles for this balding bearded Jersey baritone, maybe because his CD's full of titles like ``He's Sober Now'' and ``I Get Smarter Every Drink'' and ``2 Drinks on an Empty Stomach.'' He mostly sings like a overboozed bull in a china shop, natch. But he can slip a pinch of David Allen Coe into his twang, and ``Heather's All Bummed Out,'' about a 35-year-old looking for love on all the wrong websites while her clock ticks away in her Harrison-Ford-postered cubicle, deserves a Christgau choice cut at very least."


xhuxk, Tuesday, 7 February 2006 14:16 (twenty years ago)

What I remember about the Lonesome Bob LP was that his voice wasn't rich enough to carry the soft material but was OK when the music rocked. (Actually, I didn't remember that, but I still have my notes.) Basically his strengths was songs, and someone else should sing them. This was several years ago, so I don't remember anything else about the character of his vocals. In his lyrics he was stirring around in the ordinary to see what he could uncover. I somehow associate him with Terri Clark or Allison Moorer, but this may just be that I received albums by him and them at more or less the same time.

In the cubicle, Harrison Ford's picture is next to her fiancé's. "Sometimes a girl gets bored." A good observation, but at the time (according to my notes) there seemed something condescending about Lonesome Bob's sympathy.

Frank Kogan (Frank Kogan), Tuesday, 7 February 2006 22:43 (twenty years ago)

In checking allmusic to see how to spell "Allison Moorer," I discovered something that is probably well-known to all of you but was news to me: when she was a child, her dad shot her mom and then himself. How incomprehensibly traumatic! Older sister Shelby took on the responsibility of caring for her.

I've felt an affinity for the image I get of Moorer and her sister through their music, but I could rarely not be bored by the music itself. I always listen, feel the affinity, but end disappointed.

Frank Kogan (Frank Kogan), Tuesday, 7 February 2006 22:50 (twenty years ago)

Yeah, I've found Alison frustrating, Shelby somewhat less so, though in both cases, I'm more familiar with TV and radio live sets than albums.(Shelby's early swing album, with her looking like young Boy George, was kinda okay, but.)In '04 (?),Shelby did do a good late-60s country groove thang (covers and originals) on Soundstage, and a flashier, louder (also good) setette on last fall's Outlaws Concert Deux. Yeah, L.Bob's got some songs, and I think xgau did better on him than Choice Cuts, at least in his original review (haven't checked the http://www.robertchristgau.com/ version). Kandia just saw Shannon McNally in Charlotte, said she was real good.

don, Tuesday, 7 February 2006 23:16 (twenty years ago)

the Mammals, "Departure." contains a good Iraq song, "Alone on the Homestead," which has some good lines like "The government impatient, the boys were unprepared/Most families got their boys back in only bodybags/The papers wouldn't even print coffins draped with flags." nice gentle folk-rock, and I kind of like their take on mountain music/bluegrass on "Kiss the Break of Day" too, another pretty good couplet that goes "if my guitar falls on a landmine/Do you think anyone hears?" real pretty, might turn out to be boring, but they seem to have a handle on how to make this stuff fairly surprising--they have a good beat (alto I find the drumming a bit one-dimensional sometimes) and I like their lyrics too. I think I'd like to hear someone in Nashville do a song like "Tryin' to Remember What City I Know You From." as an example of folk-rock it seems more graceful than, say, the new Pinmonkey record, I detect something really felt under the slight pro-forma-ness of it all. I think maybe their triple-time take on "Come as You Are" beats Caetano Veloso's, as well, they seem to make the impassivity work for them in this context.

David Scott put Shelby Lynne's version of "Rainy Night in Georgia" on his annual best-of CD, which always contains a lot of stuff I seem to have missed. it's really good. and altho it's not country I really like the two songs by Devin Davis, who was unknown to me, he put on it--a really great one called "Transcendental Sports Anthem."

and I've been listening to some late-'50s Webb Pierce, too, which seems to handle its backup voices and so forth really well--great version of "Raunchy" called "The New Raunchy" and a great one called "Tupelo County Jail."

edd s hurt (ddduncan), Tuesday, 7 February 2006 23:26 (twenty years ago)

I actually thought the new Mammals album sounded mellower and less surprising than their previous one (where they covered a song by one band member's grandpa Pete Seeger among other notables), which even then (and even more than the Duhks or Maybelles or Donna the Buffalo, all of whom display way more energy beatwise and otherwise to my ears) I liked more in theory than reality. But yeah, I approve of their politics and sweetness. High point of their career, though, still has to be the Duhks on stage at Joe's Pub last year, saying they'd "married" the Mammals and from now on they would all be called the Platypi.

xhuxk, Wednesday, 8 February 2006 00:09 (twenty years ago)

I don't think I heard the previous Mammals. I sure liked two or three songs from Donna the Buffalo's last one, and yep, Donna's beat is more Buffalo and more subtle than the Mammals'. but Mammals do a nice "Satisfied Mind" too.

listened to the 4-song Redhill CD yesterday--thx Chuck. I got bored with it, but I think Julianne has real potential as a singer, and seemed to me they saved their best moves for, like, the codas or something. but there's something there, I just need to listen to it again.

and for those Gram Parsons fans out there, this site called youtube.com has a video of the Burritos doing "Older Guys" from '70 that's really cool, and lots of other video stuff as well--like the James Gang! seems like the site works better at night, during the day the vids seem to play pretty jerkily, and I can see it being a major time-waster, too. but worth checking out.

edd s hurt (ddduncan), Wednesday, 8 February 2006 01:00 (twenty years ago)

frog holler, *haywire*. from virginville, PA, wherever that is (near intercourse or climax or blue ball? i dunno, but if so, that'd man amish country.) andrew aber from the voice listings department loves these guys. i don't, not even close, but i don't hate them either. about half of the tracks here sound to me like just uninspiring alt-country politeness, ho-hum, but in at least one song i hear them reaching tentatively toward a guitar buildup at the end that reminds me of dinosaur jr or built to spill pretending to be crazy horse, and a couple other songs have a bit of *workingman's dead* roll to their rhythm and singing. and a couple more, if they had a little more pavement indie art-blur to them, might approach the prettiness of certain fruit bats or sixth great lake or grandaddy songs i've liked. and one of the singers has a bit of michael hurley in his drawl, and the whole thing has a sort of hazy lazy daze of late autumn feel; the tracks run 3:53 to 6:10, so wherever frog holler are going, they have no problem taking their time to get there. so: nothing here i much want to hear again, but it did wind up being better than i expected.

xhuxj, Wednesday, 8 February 2006 15:33 (twenty years ago)

that'd MEAN amish country

xhuxk not xhuxj, Wednesday, 8 February 2006 15:42 (twenty years ago)

I think most all the songs on The Mammals' CD are really good, as songs, though the arrangements lack dynamics, which is a problem, as this is really a pop record with trad-ish instruments. Still, the songs and Ruth Ungar's voice keep me coming back. Real pleasant surprise when it showed up, as I'd never heard them before.

Roy Kasten (Roy Kasten), Wednesday, 8 February 2006 16:52 (twenty years ago)

Rick Moranis. *The Agorophobic Cowboy*. Wow, talk about polite. Rick sounds so polite he might as well be...um, Canadian! Which I think he is, but he was better in *Ghostbusters*. (Was that his biggest movie? I forget.) On the other hand, being polite in a Canadian way is better than being polite in an alt-country way, I guess. Even his jokes (or silly song titles at least) seem polite, and he's drawing on an anachronistic type of country that was polite when it existed if it ever did. (Maybe it did among Novia Scotia truckers, I don't know.) Some of the jokes might also be funny, but he's so limited vocally and melodically that it's hard to tell. In the first song he keeps doing this shtick where you think he's going to say a word that rhymed with the previous line (say, "fired" to rhyme with "tired" or "spent" to rhyme with "rent") but then he says a word that doesn't rhyme ("laid off" or "allocated") to make the scheme intentionally clunky instead. Which is cute, but the melodies and singing are so unvaried from there on that my attention soon wanes. Hopefully somebody in Nashville who can sing will pick up some of these songs and turn them into actual music. He must have friends there, right?

xhuxk, Wednesday, 8 February 2006 17:17 (twenty years ago)

where was the Moranis recorded, Chuck?

I've decided that I really like the Jamey Johnson record, "The Dollar." great baritone. "Rebelicious" is a good song about the ideal hard-bodied woman who can also bait her own hook. and I think "The Dollar" is excellent, altho "Flying Silver Eagle," about melting down wedding rings, is even better. I just wish it were more of a concept album about money, and funnier. but I'm impressed that he wrote most of the songs, and he seems sane, even-tempered. could be as good as John Conlee or Moe Bandy, maybe.

edd s hurt (ddduncan), Wednesday, 8 February 2006 20:12 (twenty years ago)

>where was the Moranis recorded, Chuck?<

"by Tony Scherr at his house in Brooklyn"

I mean, Moranis may have talent -- he may even have potential to be Shel Silverstein or Bobby Braddock, for all I know. Maybe someday, in some context, I'll have the patience to listen closer to his demos.

xhuxk, Wednesday, 8 February 2006 20:33 (twenty years ago)

Moranis and Dave Thomas did this bit on SCTV, a show within the show, called Great White Way (backdrop: a map of CANADA, with the USA squashed around the bottom, but pretty accurate, from that angle), becaue SCTV was produced in Canada, therefore had to include a certain percentage of Canadian Content (seriously, and of course SCTV the overshow was supposed to take place in a low budget cable station, a "network," so complying with actual gov cable regulations was only right.) They'd drink Molson's and cook back bacon and start to gossip about Rush, but then one would accuse the other of stealing his smokes or messing with his tocque or his parka, and they would run out of time for that episode. One minute sketches, but then they left to make a movie of this, natch: Strange Brew, which I've heard is pretty good. Rick and Dave and the others used to do sketches involving music, and musicians (like when they had the Boomtown Rats as the classroom rowdies in To Sir With Love, and they called Lulu, played by Catherine O'Hara [Mary Margaret's actual sister, and the mom in the Home Alone movies] "yer flabbly littul taht!"). But countrywise, the best I remember was Joe Flaherty (the geek sibs' dad in Freaks And Geeks)as Kris Kristofferson, grunting,"Cows. Pigs. Sheep. Goats." That should've been set to music, but they usually left the songs to their guests.

don, Wednesday, 8 February 2006 21:23 (twenty years ago)

xpost oh yeah, I got the Redhill too, thanx xhuxx.More pop than I was expecting from Deeetroit, and hard to pull off that kind of smoothness on a small budget, but they did it pretty well. the backing did seem a little distant and times, but just added to the mono single nostalgia, appropriately, on the second track, which was kinda like early Carole King. Edd's right about the singer; she's sensuous, yet down to earth, sounds at home (the girl next door, oh yeah). I could see them in the majors.

don, Wednesday, 8 February 2006 21:31 (twenty years ago)


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