Taylor Swift - RED - October 22

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TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Tuesday, 15 January 2013 23:30 (thirteen years ago)

TROUBLE TROUBLE TROUBLE

― TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Tuesday, January 15, 2013 5:36 AM (13 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

otm

Dick Townwolves (Captain Ahab), Wednesday, 16 January 2013 01:02 (thirteen years ago)

would definitely stock up on some taylor notepads if i was in the U.S.

Jamie_ATP, Wednesday, 16 January 2013 01:06 (thirteen years ago)

seriously. is that a taylor swift blanket? i want it.

my chemtrails romance (c sharp major), Wednesday, 16 January 2013 16:44 (thirteen years ago)

they sell them in tennessee airports fyi

an old penis drawing is now "new and notable" (forksclovetofu), Wednesday, 16 January 2013 18:04 (thirteen years ago)

wow, "Girl at Home" has snuck up on me! it's almost...indie pop? at least as I understand that term. like, a very minor, twee jam, may as well be a drum machine, toy synth sounds, muted bass, minor minor minor, everybody knows that, I love it

Euler, Sunday, 20 January 2013 17:45 (thirteen years ago)

obviously i should have bought the deluxe edition

attempt to look intentionally nerdy, awkward or (thomp), Sunday, 20 January 2013 20:00 (thirteen years ago)

i'll do whatever you say / if you say it with your hands

d'eejban (J0rdan S.), Tuesday, 29 January 2013 21:01 (thirteen years ago)

such a hot line

Euler, Tuesday, 29 January 2013 21:07 (thirteen years ago)

Her best song ever, maybe

Tim F, Tuesday, 29 January 2013 21:07 (thirteen years ago)

i am now in the kind of state where i'll say "holy ground" is her best song ever but "treacherous" is def no. 2

emo canon in twee major (BradNelson), Tuesday, 29 January 2013 21:07 (thirteen years ago)

"Holy Ground", "Treacherous", "Girl At Home" are the three biggies for me on Red.

Euler, Tuesday, 29 January 2013 21:09 (thirteen years ago)

the "treacherous" bridge. TWICE

lex pretend, Tuesday, 29 January 2013 21:10 (thirteen years ago)

"Oh my/Such a marvelous tuuune!" is my lyric.

the little prince of inane false binary hype (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 29 January 2013 21:10 (thirteen years ago)

i still don't get why that lyric is notable

lex pretend, Tuesday, 29 January 2013 21:10 (thirteen years ago)

The use of "marvelous" (not a word you often hear in a pop song) and her unabashed giddiness.

the little prince of inane false binary hype (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 29 January 2013 21:11 (thirteen years ago)

Okay so recently I was corrected on this issue - I had been describing the "I must confess..." section of "baby one more time" as a middle eight and was told it is in fact a second chorus.

Would the same be true of treacherous?

Tim F, Tuesday, 29 January 2013 21:12 (thirteen years ago)

yes, "Starlight" has been stuck in my head for the last week. it was slow in getting in there, but now it's there all the time.

Euler, Tuesday, 29 January 2013 21:12 (thirteen years ago)

"marvellous" is a nice detail that makes it the period piece she wanted it to be i guess

"treacherous" is packed with imagery and observations that are, like, miguel-level real. "out of focus, eye to eye, til the gravity's too much"

lex pretend, Tuesday, 29 January 2013 21:13 (thirteen years ago)

I like "starlight" but for unabashed giddiness I prefer "holy ground", though I guess it's colored by something deeper, an acceptance and validation of the ending it foreshadows.

Tim F, Tuesday, 29 January 2013 21:14 (thirteen years ago)

Yes lex that line is amazing!

Tim F, Tuesday, 29 January 2013 21:14 (thirteen years ago)

My favourite though is "I can't decide if it's a choice, getting swept away / I hear the sound of my own voice, asking you to stay"

Tim F, Tuesday, 29 January 2013 21:15 (thirteen years ago)

also

i hear the sound of my own voice
asking you to stay
and all we are is skin and bone trained to get along
forever going with the flow but you're friction

p awesome imo

emo canon in twee major (BradNelson), Tuesday, 29 January 2013 21:15 (thirteen years ago)

oh, xpost

emo canon in twee major (BradNelson), Tuesday, 29 January 2013 21:15 (thirteen years ago)

the way she sings "friction" >>>>>>>>>>

lex pretend, Tuesday, 29 January 2013 21:16 (thirteen years ago)

'cause i read you should never leave a fight unresolved

uberweiss, Tuesday, 29 January 2013 21:17 (thirteen years ago)

i've just realised that "treacherous" IS SECRETLY A MIGUEL SONG

like seriously you can hear it, right?

lex pretend, Tuesday, 29 January 2013 21:17 (thirteen years ago)

that's when you came in wearing a football helmet

uberweiss, Tuesday, 29 January 2013 21:17 (thirteen years ago)

haha "stay stay stay" is better at giddiness than "starlight" imo

lex pretend, Tuesday, 29 January 2013 21:18 (thirteen years ago)

iirc y'all were into the line "have ten kids and teach 'em how to dream" but i still haaaaaate it

emo canon in twee major (BradNelson), Tuesday, 29 January 2013 21:20 (thirteen years ago)

"treacherous" explores it's key theme - the split between head and heart, the irresistible almost inevitable compulsion to do the "wrong" thing - in so many different and subtle ways, it's hard to top lyrically. The fact that the performance is so affecting makes it kinda ridiculous in its gratuitous greatness

Tim F, Tuesday, 29 January 2013 21:21 (thirteen years ago)

^^^ pretty dumb yeah but it works in context. The song is about how joy shapes memories.

xpost

the little prince of inane false binary hype (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 29 January 2013 21:22 (thirteen years ago)

guess the "have ten kids" line is kinda het but I roll that way & it's kinda key to how I've felt for a long time about my strongest loves

Euler, Tuesday, 29 January 2013 21:23 (thirteen years ago)

i think one of my (endless) favourite things about "treacherous" is the contrast between the very consciously delicate verses, where she might say she doesn't know if it's a choice but she's definitely trying to present herself as this powerless fragile flower who just can't help being swept away. which is the right performance for those words but also disingenuous, so when she actually gives in and owns her own power & agency - "and i will GET YOU, GET YOU ALONE" - it's such a fucking rush

lex pretend, Tuesday, 29 January 2013 21:24 (thirteen years ago)

It'd be nice to promote a crosstown classic and have every fan of Taylor Swift listen to the new Tegan & Sara, and every fan of Tegan & Sara listen to the Taylor Swift. Then they should fill out a survey.

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 29 January 2013 22:44 (thirteen years ago)

did we talk about this remix/bootleg of I Knew You Were Trouble.?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sY9WQMrvJnw

The verses are maybe not as good as the driving propulsion of the verses in the original, but the little winding bit in the chorus is great and the drops are kind of awesome?

I have been enjoying it at least.

twinkin' and drinkin' and ready to fly (Alex in Montreal), Wednesday, 30 January 2013 18:09 (thirteen years ago)

i am now in the kind of state where i'll say "holy ground" is her best song ever

Agreed. Up there with "Enchanted" and "Last Kiss" as her best song ever in my book.

Driver 8, Wednesday, 30 January 2013 20:59 (thirteen years ago)

Not apropos of anything much, but I started thinking about the inevitable Greatest Hits collection today. Just sticking to the actual hits, and I don't even like some of them, it's already pretty amazing:

Tim McGraw
Our Song
Picture to Burn
Tears on My Guitar
Love Story
White Horse
You Belong With Me
Fifteen
Crazier
Fearless
Today Was a Fairytale
Mine
Back to December
Mean
Sparks Fly
The Story of Us
Ours
Safe and Sound
We Are Never Ever
Begin Again
I Knew You Were Trouble

21 songs! All but one top 40 U.S. ("Story of Us" peaked at 41), 12 top 20, nine top 10, one #1.

something of an astrological coup (tipsy mothra), Wednesday, 30 January 2013 21:16 (thirteen years ago)

(And that's just the pop chart. Per wikipedia, she's had seven Country #1's.)

something of an astrological coup (tipsy mothra), Wednesday, 30 January 2013 21:18 (thirteen years ago)

Deep cuts best of:

Cold As You
Stay Beautiful
Mary's Song
Hey Stephen
Forever and Always
The Best Day
Dear John
Enchanted
The Last Kiss
Treacherous
All Too Well
Holy Ground

Tim F, Wednesday, 30 January 2013 21:25 (thirteen years ago)

And...

The Way I Loved You
Long Live
Never Grow Up
I Almost Do
The Lucky One

something of an astrological coup (tipsy mothra), Wednesday, 30 January 2013 21:33 (thirteen years ago)

tim if you add "you're not sorry" to that list you basically got My Favorite Taylor Songs Forever

emo canon in twee major (BradNelson), Wednesday, 30 January 2013 21:37 (thirteen years ago)

pretty sure my top two taylor songs now are enchanted and treacherous

monotony, Wednesday, 30 January 2013 22:12 (thirteen years ago)

didn't know the love for "Treacherous"!

the little prince of inane false binary hype (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 30 January 2013 22:19 (thirteen years ago)

sorry -- "Enchanted."

the little prince of inane false binary hype (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 30 January 2013 22:19 (thirteen years ago)

Oh yeah "Enchanted" is a huge huge huge deep cut. Such an abundant song.

Tim F, Wednesday, 30 January 2013 22:21 (thirteen years ago)

Still more fab deep cuts:

Permanent Marker (unreleased)
I'd Lie (unreleased)
I'm Only Me When I'm With You
Dark Blue Tennessee (unreleased)
Untouchable
Come in with the Rain

Driver 8, Wednesday, 30 January 2013 22:36 (thirteen years ago)

around when speak now was released i went on my first date in approx two years and "enchanted" was sooo important

emo canon in twee major (BradNelson), Wednesday, 30 January 2013 23:06 (thirteen years ago)

think my #1 request for a t-swift rarities compilation would be a decent recording of the version of "lose yourself" that she does live

lex pretend, Thursday, 31 January 2013 09:04 (thirteen years ago)

when i asked her about that she was like, omg you've done more research than any journalist i've ever talked to, how did you know about that? i kind of squinted at her and was like, uhhh i went on youtube. every other journalist fell in my estimation there

lex pretend, Thursday, 31 January 2013 09:05 (thirteen years ago)


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