that 86 video is really lame
― queef ka queef (Spottie_Ottie_Dope), Tuesday, 15 January 2013 15:34 (eleven years ago) link
if any reviewers cover it at all (apart from already known fans) it'll be a minor victory
― lex pretend, Tuesday, January 15, 2013 6:55 AM (2 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
its getting near universal love on my twitter feed anyway im sure its just a thinkpiece away from being called the most brilliant record ever made or w/e
― rap steve gadd (D-40), Tuesday, 15 January 2013 15:35 (eleven years ago) link
i like it but think its sounds kind of same-y
lol @ anyone who thought the chief keef album displayed wildly varying styles thinking this album sounds same-y
― 乒乓, Tuesday, 15 January 2013 15:37 (eleven years ago) link
you have to be kidding me
― rap steve gadd (D-40), Tuesday, 15 January 2013 15:37 (eleven years ago) link
yeah tbh I'm trollin u a lil bit
― 乒乓, Tuesday, 15 January 2013 15:38 (eleven years ago) link
haha 乒乓 otm
― some dude, Tuesday, 15 January 2013 15:38 (eleven years ago) link
only a lil tho
― 乒乓, Tuesday, 15 January 2013 15:39 (eleven years ago) link
kinda trolly but also true
― lex pretend, Tuesday, 15 January 2013 15:40 (eleven years ago) link
i mean if you think an album that contains "riot", "gleaux" and "300" sounds samey, uhhh
i should have known better than to challenge the great consensus record of january 2013 but while i like individual tracks over the course of the record this sounds way more of a piece than a rap record that had what 5 different producers that included tracks recorded for three different projects
― rap steve gadd (D-40), Tuesday, 15 January 2013 15:41 (eleven years ago) link
its getting near universal love on my twitter feed anyway
well ditto but i can pretty much name every critic who loves it, which is not the same thing as people outside this twitter circle giving a fuck, which they didn't about armor on
― lex pretend, Tuesday, 15 January 2013 15:41 (eleven years ago) link
nahhhh it's not a consensus record. a bunch of people love it but there are certain people i follow who are kind of bellwethers for consensus hype records (more industry-focused journalists etc) and they don't care at all
― lex pretend, Tuesday, 15 January 2013 15:43 (eleven years ago) link
yes but you being able to name everyone who likes it doesnt mean that ppl wont all be loving it in 2 mo. after the guilt-tripping thinkpieces about why this is being slept on. i mean, it just went #1 on itunes R&B/soul
to me, this record is cool but in a faint echoes of LTTP way, but where that record had variety, this one sticks to pretty much one overarching feel, imo. LTTP is the record w/ which by comparison this feels 'samey'
idk like i said ... i like it. it just feels premature that everyone is so completely on board from jump
― rap steve gadd (D-40), Tuesday, 15 January 2013 15:44 (eleven years ago) link
if we're gonna fight about this album i'm gonna need some sandals and a shield, brb
― some dude, Tuesday, 15 January 2013 15:45 (eleven years ago) link
nah all you need is love on your armoured chest
a thousand soldiers against one sword
― lex pretend, Tuesday, 15 January 2013 15:45 (eleven years ago) link
kinda soon to be running your mouth on this album tbh deej
― r|t|c, Tuesday, 15 January 2013 15:47 (eleven years ago) link
i already have a sword, it glows when trolls are near
― some dude, Tuesday, 15 January 2013 15:48 (eleven years ago) link
I am pretty sure all of Dawn's releases go to #1 on iTunes
― DJP, Tuesday, 15 January 2013 15:49 (eleven years ago) link
armor on went #1 on itunes r&b too, no?
i've been kinda nervous about what others would think because i've had it for so long w/o being able to talk about it, and it def was not immediate for me, so it's really gratifying that people are on board immediately
it's not really similar enough to LTTP in its aims/sounds/scope for the comparison to really mean much imo - also the whole point of LTTP was the theatrical multiplicity of voices and sounds and perspectives, whereas this is an album from a singular singer-songwritery pov that's specifically designed to be a cohesive work
xps
― lex pretend, Tuesday, 15 January 2013 15:49 (eleven years ago) link
I was about to say, isn't the whole idea the fact that it's one overarching presentation? It even feels like it, thus my sequencing comments.
― Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 15 January 2013 15:50 (eleven years ago) link
the thing about iTunes is they update their sales ranks constantly (hourly?) so if you get a cult rushing the gates when something first drops, that doesn't necessarily mean it'll sell enough throughout the week to do major damage on the Billboard charts. although it would be pretty cool if she does crazy numbers for an independent R&B release.
― some dude, Tuesday, 15 January 2013 15:51 (eleven years ago) link
idk after the last year encouraging critics to get stoked about an R&B record feels like a downhill battle, like, not that miguel & frank arent good but after that jeremih nonsense im kind of like, critics will buy anything
― rap steve gadd (D-40), Tuesday, 15 January 2013 15:53 (eleven years ago) link
notice im using the word 'battle' in keeping w/ the record's theme
i'm a little mystified by how people who slept on Jeremih's albums bumrushed the mixtape, but i mean it was good music
― some dude, Tuesday, 15 January 2013 15:56 (eleven years ago) link
mmm we already discussed the kind of r&b record critics refuse to get excited about though didn't we
― lex pretend, Tuesday, 15 January 2013 15:56 (eleven years ago) link
sure well enjoy your cheerleading i feel like this record wont withstand the long term SUPERENTHUSIASTIC CLASSIC scrutiny but more power to you b/c it is a good record. dont feel like its turning my head upside down or anything
― rap steve gadd (D-40), Tuesday, 15 January 2013 15:57 (eleven years ago) link
nobody even used the c-word you c-word
― some dude, Tuesday, 15 January 2013 15:58 (eleven years ago) link
i would never, ever use the word "classic" about an album in its week of release lol
save that for the kendrick stans
― lex pretend, Tuesday, 15 January 2013 16:00 (eleven years ago) link
is there a mordy thread you can do this on
― goole, Tuesday, 15 January 2013 16:01 (eleven years ago) link
imo only lex will have heard this enough by now to validly declare whether it's samey or not, let alone start jumping off into how it relates to its barely embryonic place in the critical landscape
in other words put a sock in it lunatic
― r|t|c, Tuesday, 15 January 2013 16:03 (eleven years ago) link
@somanyshrimpreasonably confident that finally rich will ultimately be considered a classic tbh
― some dude, Tuesday, 15 January 2013 16:03 (eleven years ago) link
4:16 PM - 15 Dec 12 ·
yes lex is definitely going to be the voice of reason here
― rap steve gadd (D-40), Tuesday, 15 January 2013 16:04 (eleven years ago) link
― some dude, Tuesday, January 15, 2013 10:03 AM (22 seconds ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
fwiw this was about how i think others are going to perceive it at a future date & wasnt my own take on the record
― some dude, Tuesday, January 15, 2013 7:51 AM Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
fwiw, Armor On placed at #145 on the BB200. I think this will do better than that just on account of her having solidified her fanbase but not exactly knocking down the top ten.
also, lol at "LARP&B"
― The Reverend, Tuesday, 15 January 2013 16:07 (eleven years ago) link
― lex pretend, Tuesday, January 15, 2013 9:00 AM (9 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
no but you said "MASTERPIECE" same thing
― bish (bosch), don't kill my vibe (rennavate), Tuesday, 15 January 2013 16:10 (eleven years ago) link
on a more substantive note, it's "the proof was in the flood"??
― goole, Tuesday, 15 January 2013 16:11 (eleven years ago) link
the flood of pudding, obv
― some dude, Tuesday, 15 January 2013 16:11 (eleven years ago) link
i guess that makes sense next to "hurricane"
― goole, Tuesday, 15 January 2013 16:12 (eleven years ago) link
yeah, I'd always heard that as "in the blood" and still do
― The Reverend, Tuesday, 15 January 2013 16:13 (eleven years ago) link
"classic" has connotations of standing the test of time, "masterpiece" is a more subjective thing
xp "the proof is in my blood"
― lex pretend, Tuesday, 15 January 2013 16:15 (eleven years ago) link
lyrics - http://www.slideshare.net/Dawn_Richard/dawn-richard-goldenheart-lyrics
― lex pretend, Tuesday, 15 January 2013 16:16 (eleven years ago) link
the beginning of the video says "chapter one: the proof was in the flood" though
― some dude, Tuesday, 15 January 2013 16:17 (eleven years ago) link
oh weird so do those official lyrics - the lyric docs the PR sent me say "in the blood"
WHO KNOWS
― lex pretend, Tuesday, 15 January 2013 16:18 (eleven years ago) link
her lip-syncing looks like "flood" to me. kind of.
― goole, Tuesday, 15 January 2013 16:20 (eleven years ago) link
abiguity!! 10/10 classic!!
haha
― DJP, Tuesday, 15 January 2013 16:21 (eleven years ago) link
you mean Masterpiece
― rap steve gadd (D-40), Tuesday, 15 January 2013 16:22 (eleven years ago) link
I always thought she was talking about katrina and the resulting flooding.
― prolego, Tuesday, 15 January 2013 16:22 (eleven years ago) link