and while they hate that record, I have a soft spot for it.
― dan selzer, Friday, 11 January 2013 07:01 (thirteen years ago)
fuck ween― fart the police (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, January 10, 2013 8:04 PM (Yesterday) Bookmarkm@tt otm, ween is awful― trey songza (some dude), Thursday, January 10, 2013 8:06 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark
eat shit and die
― billstevejim, Friday, 11 January 2013 07:03 (thirteen years ago)
here come here come rome plows
― She Got the Shakes, Friday, 11 January 2013 07:54 (thirteen years ago)
like did someone just read that review and then decide to do a whole feature on the concept?― Yo! MTV La Tengo (Stevie D(eux)), Friday, January 11, 2013 12:56 AM (6 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
― Yo! MTV La Tengo (Stevie D(eux)), Friday, January 11, 2013 12:56 AM (6 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
ha look at ned's review of pell mell -
The idea that Pell Mell would have ended up on a company run by David Geffen must have seemed truly bizarre when the band first started, but that's what a little Nirvana can do for bands (and so it must have seemed for many an alternative outfit in the early '90s).
― just sayin, Friday, 11 January 2013 08:19 (thirteen years ago)
6 THE TOO PURE/AMERICAN RECORDINGS ALLIANCE
for Long Fin Killie; can't imagine what the US public thought of them.
― etc, Friday, 11 January 2013 08:31 (thirteen years ago)
maybe this is 'too much time on ilx' but the basic theme of this list seems p well-established to me, regardless of Ned having referenced it once or twice
― nilmar wells (DJ Mencap), Friday, 11 January 2013 10:01 (thirteen years ago)
I expected to see SURGERY - SHIMMER (ATLANTIC, 1994) and I thought SHOT was The Lizard's major label album.
― Damo Suzuki's Parrot, Friday, 11 January 2013 10:44 (thirteen years ago)
Yeah, Shot and Blue were both on Capitol, Blue being the Andy Gill-produced 'weird/experimental' one. Though out of the timeframe of the list, iirc. The live one came out before their final Touch and Go lp.
― Mike Dixn, Friday, 11 January 2013 11:49 (thirteen years ago)
I think SPIN is saying that the circumstances of the release are what was so weird about it:"The band allegedly told an A&R stalker that they'd only sign a one-album, one million-dollar deal, something the exec supposedly considered possible. They did, in fact, sign a one-album deal towards the end of 1993 — for a live album. It goes without saying that the post-Nirvana rock landscape was not the place to expect big numbers from a live album, no matter how well it was played or recorded."
― Mike Dixn, Friday, 11 January 2013 11:51 (thirteen years ago)
I can't even remember SHOW and I was a fan at the time, saw them live at the Astoria in '93.
― Damo Suzuki's Parrot, Friday, 11 January 2013 12:08 (thirteen years ago)
Nirvana/Jesus Lizard split single is the gateway drug on that one.
― Troughton-masked Replicant (aldo), Friday, 11 January 2013 12:13 (thirteen years ago)
It's between Fudge Tunnel and God for me. Love both those records - they're in my iPod right now. Saw FT on that tour, in fact, with Sepultura, Fear Factory and Clutch.
― 誤訳侮辱, Friday, 11 January 2013 13:20 (thirteen years ago)
Wait, is the Claw Hammer in the poll the same one that made Q:Are We Not Men? A:We Are Not Devo? Cos that was a completely fucking great record, but I never explored any further than that.
― clive mendonca's big soccer (NickB), Friday, 11 January 2013 13:36 (thirteen years ago)
best thing abt the God alb being on a major label = lots of cheap review copies at Music & Video Exchange
― Ward Fowler, Friday, 11 January 2013 13:51 (thirteen years ago)
fudge tunnel and butt trumpet, it was great that the major labels were signing 12-year-old boys back then...
And Mr. Bung Hole
― Loud guitars shit all over "Bette Davis Eyes" (NYCNative), Friday, 11 January 2013 13:55 (thirteen years ago)
choke choke choke choke choke choke choke choke suck suck suck suck suck suck suck suck
― Solange Knowles is my hero (DJP), Friday, 11 January 2013 13:58 (thirteen years ago)
Voting for the Gorky's Zygotic Mynci comp, their early stuff was so great. I like the Drive Like Jehu and Melvins albums a lot too but yeah this
Shudder to Think - Pony Express Record wuz robbed
is OTM.
― Gavin, Leeds, Friday, 11 January 2013 14:15 (thirteen years ago)
I only own the Cop Shoot Cop album, so that one. Plus it's frickin' great.
― Gerald McBoing-Boing, Friday, 11 January 2013 14:52 (thirteen years ago)
I need to go back to that Cop Shoot Cop album; I remember it being great but I can't bring to mind any of the songs on it.
― Solange Knowles is my hero (DJP), Friday, 11 January 2013 14:56 (thirteen years ago)
(basically whenever I try to remember how a Cop Shoot Cop song goes, I get the Spiritualized song stuck in my head)
"let's make a band with all the worst aspects of frank zappa & none of the amazing music"*
pretty much everything about this statement should be so apparently wrong to anyone who's listened to even one Ween album
― frogbs, Friday, 11 January 2013 15:00 (thirteen years ago)
trolling Ween fans has become one of my favorite ilx pastimes, i could do this all day
― trey songza (some dude), Friday, 11 January 2013 15:04 (thirteen years ago)
I have the tee-shirt for that Cop Shoot Cop album but I play "Release" all the time to this day and this is despite totaling my car while playing it (I still remember going to the junkyard to pry the CD from the stereo and, yes, I still have that CD.)
In my universe, this song was a #1 hit:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1RbnshwWL-A
While wearing the aforementioned shirt and living in Ohio, some guy came up to me and complimented me on it. I was a little inebriated so I started to go on how I loved the band, saw them live and got to interview them back in the day. The guy mistook my drunken enthusiasm for bragging. He sized me up and bitterly spat out "Oh yeah? Well, I did coke with them! How's that?!?"
Um, okay, dude. You win.
― Loud guitars shit all over "Bette Davis Eyes" (NYCNative), Friday, 11 January 2013 15:06 (thirteen years ago)
I don't know if this detail matters, but Mr. Bungle were already signed to and had an album released by WB before Disco Volante. The self-titled album came out in '91. I remember the lyric, "Will Warner Brothers put our record on the shelf" in "Carousel."
― afriendlypioneer, Friday, 11 January 2013 15:07 (thirteen years ago)
Voted 'Steel Pole Bath Tub' - Chicago record store and label Permanent Records released their swan song, 'Unlistenable,' last year. It's named after the Slash Records A&R team's reaction when they brought it to the table. It's pretty friggin' awesome too. Just looked up their wikipedia entry and it seems they've had a good run of making video game music!
― BlackIronPrison, Friday, 11 January 2013 15:08 (thirteen years ago)
that first Bungle album is so so great, even if part of me holds a grudge due to hyperextending my elbow in the pit at their show and having a fucked-up arm for years afterward as a result
― Solange Knowles is my hero (DJP), Friday, 11 January 2013 15:10 (thirteen years ago)
I didn't know Yank Crime was on a major! I haven't listened to half of these. That Mr. Bungle album rules but I voted Boredoms
― friday goodness thank it's (flamboyant goon tie included), Friday, 11 January 2013 15:11 (thirteen years ago)
I love the first Bungle album. It makes me feel 13 all over again without feeling the slightest hint of shame. The music is just that cool.
― afriendlypioneer, Friday, 11 January 2013 15:13 (thirteen years ago)
― afriendlypioneer, Friday, January 11, 2013 10:07 AM (5 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
yeah there was def a little bit of cheating on that entry, but the fact remains that no one ever said WB had to put out a SECOND Bungle record
― lol cassidy fan club (Whiney G. Weingarten), Friday, 11 January 2013 15:16 (thirteen years ago)
especially one with a 10-minute musique concrete suite on it
The hit single off the Cop Shoot Cop album was $10 Bill - a genuine chart hit in Britain after Jakki Brambles championed it on daytime radio and played it every show.
― Troughton-masked Replicant (aldo), Friday, 11 January 2013 15:18 (thirteen years ago)
Well, I just learned some things about Fred Armisen and Carla Bozulich
― friday goodness thank it's (flamboyant goon tie included), Friday, 11 January 2013 15:20 (thirteen years ago)
Hello, I gather I was invoked earlier.
― Ned Raggett, Friday, 11 January 2013 15:22 (thirteen years ago)
Dude, you owned this thread without even showing up.
― Loud guitars shit all over "Bette Davis Eyes" (NYCNative), Friday, 11 January 2013 15:23 (thirteen years ago)
Hahah well then.
― Ned Raggett, Friday, 11 January 2013 15:25 (thirteen years ago)
Now we all want to know what you vote for.Or at least, I do.
― Loud guitars shit all over "Bette Davis Eyes" (NYCNative), Friday, 11 January 2013 15:28 (thirteen years ago)
Sorry, I do not vote in poll threads (nor do I start them). I will stand by that assessment of Pop Tatari, though.
― Ned Raggett, Friday, 11 January 2013 15:30 (thirteen years ago)
listening to interstate right now, first time in a while -- definitely not the best pell mell album but great nonetheless.
― tylerw, Friday, 11 January 2013 15:31 (thirteen years ago)
Do you think any of these actually paid off for the labels?Pure Guava must've made some dough by now.
― brio, Friday, 11 January 2013 15:33 (thirteen years ago)
Trenchmouth was really trading
― fart the police (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 11 January 2013 15:33 (thirteen years ago)
Raging
― fart the police (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 11 January 2013 15:34 (thirteen years ago)
Yank Crime for me...will be checking a load of these out though, sweet thread!
― Blue Collar Retail Assistant (Dwight Yorke), Friday, 11 January 2013 15:37 (thirteen years ago)
Do you think any of these actually paid off for the labels?
royal trux definitely did not
Pitchfork: You started making Accelerator with Virgin but it was released on Drag City. What's the story behind that?
JH: We dictated the whole thing, actually. We requested to be let out of the contract after Sweet Sixteen. We knew that [Virgin] couldn't get their head around what we were doing. But having signed the contract for three records, they were going to have to pay us for a third record no matter what. And in the contract, we were given total artistic free reign-- we'd administer our own budgets and we didn't have to have them sign off on anything. So after Sweet Sixteen came out, we basically freaked the fuck out of [Virgin]. We told them that we were going to make this other record right now, and that we were going to do it on eight tracks with no producer. Then we'd have the lawyer convince them that it would be easier for them to give us all the money for that record and not have to spend anything to promote it. That was our game. So we got exactly what we wanted, because the record was paid for by Virgin, even though it wasn't even started when we got the money. Then we went about recording it however we wanted and finished up the trilogy as it were.NH: It wasn't really a relief to get away from Virgin since we had a good deal-- I think they were pretty lame though. Our [Virgin] deal was for two LPs straight out, then they had an option for the third, but they had to decline by a certain date. We got paid one fee if they declined, one fee if they accepted-- and then if they declined, they had to buy out the remaining options on our contract. If they had stuck with the contract, they would have put out Accelerator, Veterans, and Pound4Pound-- all of which would have been done with bigger producers, and they might have eventually been able to break one of them. But fuck them.
― tylerw, Friday, 11 January 2013 15:37 (thirteen years ago)
ha never saw this video before:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iGI6mbD0E9A
love Firewater, bums me out that Cop Shoot Cop's albums don't seem to be in print or on itunes/spotify, etc.
― trey songza (some dude), Friday, 11 January 2013 15:38 (thirteen years ago)
who could have predicted this wasn't going to fly off the shelves!?!http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-0MzSeqFbaZY/TpzchghicMI/AAAAAAAAAAk/GC23OaCxtAI/s400/Royal%20Trux.jpg
― brio, Friday, 11 January 2013 15:40 (thirteen years ago)
feel like this is the apex of major label weirdhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a16igonZo20
― tylerw, Friday, 11 January 2013 15:42 (thirteen years ago)
it's funny at the time there was so much hand-wringing and angst about The Man co-opting the underground, but now looking back on it, it's like it was free ice cream day at ben & jerry's
― brio, Friday, 11 January 2013 15:51 (thirteen years ago)
http://www.stayfreemagazine.org/images/15/music/the_man.jpg
― Tarfumes The Escape Goat, Friday, 11 January 2013 15:56 (thirteen years ago)
in a sense the underground was co-opted by signing everybody and showing them that anything beyond niche careerism was too hard a mountain to climb
― da croupier, Friday, 11 January 2013 16:02 (thirteen years ago)
also kind of funny how boomers get to be all WE CHANGED THE WORLD while 90s nostalgiacs are more "man remember when we dressed funny and the economy was decent"
― da croupier, Friday, 11 January 2013 16:05 (thirteen years ago)