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so "kiss me again" was "fixed" ahead of time so the drums were perfectly in time.... making it easier to line up the other dance beat under it... right?

― grady (grady), Tuesday, 7 March 2006 18:14 (twenty years ago)

exactly. me not so great at explaining tings.

― stirmonster (stirmonster), Tuesday, 7 March 2006 18:15 (twenty years ago)

or answering phones *

― frenchbloke (frenchbloke), Tuesday, 7 March 2006 18:22 (twenty years ago)

shut it frenchie. you always phone at the crack of dawn.

― stirmonster (stirmonster), Tuesday, 7 March 2006 18:23 (twenty years ago)

but it'd only be the crack of dawn if you were in the west coast of america, or is that your body's way of telling you to slow down? *

― frenchbloke (frenchbloke), Tuesday, 7 March 2006 18:27 (twenty years ago)

You can listen ahead with traktor as easily as you can with vinyl. It works on the same principles except with the added luxury that you can skip back and forth to preset markers on the track.

this may sound horribly ignorant of me... but how do i do this with headphones if my computer only has one headphone jack....? do i need some kind of external hardware?

― grady (grady), Tuesday, 7 March 2006 20:05 (twenty years ago)

that is EXACTLY what i was wondering - someone explain!

― dog latin (dog latin), Tuesday, 7 March 2006 20:09 (twenty years ago)

you need a soundcard with multi outs. it's the only logical way this would work. ie 6 channels - 2 for 'deck 1'' 2 for 'deck 2' and 2/poss 1 for monitoring. you'd also need some way of mixing this which makes dj'ing with just your laptop unworkable with traktor. just your laptop, your external soundcard and your 8/10/12 channel mixing desk. mind you, i've never used it.

― frenchbloke (frenchbloke), Tuesday, 7 March 2006 20:42 (twenty years ago)

This thread is really interesting. I've just got one quick question: for all the DJs out there who use laptops for live DJing, which program do you rate as the best? I currently use Mixmeister 6 Pro and find it perfect for my needs - I prefer to see the waveform and meddle about with it - but Ableton is mentioned by everyone. Am I likely to find Ableton much better for live DJing?

The only annoyances with MM6 are that you can't change the pitch and can't do that nifty 'unplug the record deck and let the record slow to a halt' trick. I use Acid and Cool Edit to make remixes and re-edits.

And Dog Latin and Grady, yeah you need an external soundcard. Plug that into your mixer via the USB port, then use the internal soundcard (headphone socket) to listen to mixing ahead, as your monitor.

(xpost)

― Affectian (Affectian), Tuesday, 7 March 2006 20:57 (twenty years ago)

Actually you don't need an external or 2nd soundcard at all. As frenchbloke says you can prelisten (cue) tracks using headphones plugged into the rear outputs of a 5.1 compatible soundcard. Because of latency issues you are going to need to find, install and configure ASIO drivers compatible with your card. It's a bit of a chore but doesn't require a computer science degree.
I think Ableton and Traktor are becoming the default standards for digital performance mixing. From my experience Ableton requires more time to learn and also you need to spend significant time prior to a set putting warp markers into your tracks. With Traktor you can jump into mixing mp3s immediately if you have an previous experience with turntables.
I think Ableton offers a more possibilities for making interesting complex mixes HOWEVER I hear Traktor 3.0 added a lot of effects and gadgets so it might be getting up there too.

― harshaw (jube), Tuesday, 7 March 2006 22:32 (twenty years ago)

All my mixes are vinyl + cdj + fx + c-loops sampler. I really want to try getting into laptop stylee mixing, but I can't afford a nice laptop. I can't afford a nice laptop because I spend too much money on vinyl. It's a vicious circle.

― tylero (tylero), Tuesday, 7 March 2006 22:36 (twenty years ago)

the ones I've posted are all vinyl recorded on Audacity. I'm interested in the Ableton / Serato stuff but am sort of wary of the endless possibilities like Ronan was saying (plus the expense, since it's really just a hobby for me)

― Renard (Renard), Tuesday, 7 March 2006 22:40 (twenty years ago)

I can't afford a nice laptop because I spend too much money on vinyl. It's a vicious circle. OTM!

― grady (grady), Tuesday, 7 March 2006 22:43 (twenty years ago)

after al this talk I think I will download the Traktor demo for Mac, though ...

― Renard (Renard), Tuesday, 7 March 2006 22:50 (twenty years ago)

To be honest, I think paying the big $$ for vinyl imposes a kind of discipline on you that can be a good thing. If I was using (aka STEALING) mp3's i'd be heavily tempted to do tons of flavor-of-the-week mixes that sound just like everybody else's, but since I can only really get 10-15 new records a month, each one I get has to kind of fit in with my existing collection. This is kind of limiting and frustrating at times, but it also means that I have kind of developed a sort of personal 'sound', and when I buy records it's always with an ear towards how they can be bent into line with my other stuff. That makes kind of a good eclectic-not-eclectic duality to my collection. IMO.

This also could be heavy heavy heavy rationalization for all the $$$ I've spent on the damn black things....

― tylero (tylero), Tuesday, 7 March 2006 23:01 (twenty years ago)

flavor-of-the-week mixes that sound just like everybody else's,

Ok that sounds kind of ass-ey, but I'm definatley not referring to anybody in this thread here. All the mixes posted have been great and unique.

― tylero (tylero), Tuesday, 7 March 2006 23:02 (twenty years ago)

tylero you're in LA right? do you buy your vinyl online, or are there decent LA record stores with preview stations I don't know about?

― Lukas (lukas), Tuesday, 7 March 2006 23:15 (twenty years ago)

I'm going to have to disagree with you here.

First, you're making the assumption that everyone DJing digitally is downloading their tunes from the P2P networks. Not to sound all high and mighty, but some of us do try to take the high road and support the artists we're playing, either by using any of the dozens of legal download sites like Beatport or by encoding vinyl and CDs for playing out and making mixes.

Distribution has always been a major concern with dance music, and the legal download phenomenon has begun to solve this while simultaneously leveling the playing field quite a bit, especially for people (like me) who live in towns with crappy record stores. Sure, I could order vinyl off the internet but what's the point if I can get the same tune as a download and avoid the shipping costs, long wait, etc?

― jeffery (jeffery), Tuesday, 7 March 2006 23:24 (twenty years ago)

San Diego, Actually. There are 2 good stores in SD for techno (CSL and United) with listening stations, and another good one for trad house (Siesta). In LA the only place to go anymore is Amoeba, which has no listening stations. This Is Music on Melrose was great but is sadly gone. Sorry LA-ers.

― tylero (tylero), Tuesday, 7 March 2006 23:28 (twenty years ago)

LAers should peep the new turntablelab store... i think its walking distance from Ameobea...

maybe we need a new thread for discussions on all this digital DJ stuff?

― grady (grady), Tuesday, 7 March 2006 23:32 (twenty years ago)

tylero, do you play out in san diego at all? asking b/c i will be there next week for a couple days

― W i l l (common_person), Wednesday, 8 March 2006 00:02 (twenty years ago)

that's ableton installed and configured - i might be asking questions if i get stuck at any point.

the we are back mix - re-uploaded as for some reason only 2/3rds of it would download. now up in it's full 100 meg glory, if oyu can call it that. also up is the xfm the remix superchunk mix thingy mentioned by someone up there ^ ^ ^ somewhere. it features the shockheaded peters / t. raumschmiere thing that some folk mention on ilm which i never did get round to extending. and a couple of odd eyed bastard tracks, named after my love of mr bowie. commissioned and rejected / unfinished etc.. by sony. i owe stir a drink for nicking his bass guitar.

― frenchbloke (frenchbloke), Wednesday, 8 March 2006 03:24 (twenty years ago)

speaking of ableton, here's part of a mix i did a couple of years ago with it. it started life as a daft punk megamix but ended up a bit more promiscuous than that...

http://s51.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=1H7V1XPPX47P937IOHYRA3KZIP

― Conor (Conor), Friday, 10 March 2006 17:10 (twenty years ago)

33/45 Disco Mix

http://homepage.mac.com/drenard/.Public/DiscoMix.mp3

http://threethreefourfive.blogspot.com/2006/03/mix-of-month-3345-disco-mix.html

Lee Douglas - Same Changes
Nancy Martin - Can't Believe
Mike Theodore Orchestra - Cosmic Wind
Cloud One - Spaced Out
Theo Vaness - No Romance
Padded Cell - Signal Failure
Michael Zager Band - Let's All Chant
Mr. Magic - Potential 1980
Anita Ward - Ring My Bell
LCD Soundsystem - Tribulations (Lindstrom Remix)

― Renard (Renard), Friday, 17 March 2006 07:35 (twenty years ago)

nancy martin 'can't believe' - fantastic that. the bassline's a winner, well in my house anyway

― frenchbloke (frenchbloke), Friday, 17 March 2006 09:18 (twenty years ago)

cool, glad you liked it ... thanks for checkin out the mix!

― Renard (Renard), Friday, 17 March 2006 15:01 (twenty years ago)

1992 as I knew it...

― Konal Doddz (blueski), Friday, 17 March 2006 15:21 (twenty years ago)

hello all, minimal/electro/micro etc house mixed in ableton:

oblio - for the floor (70m, 192kps)

http://s49.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=28OJXMKR1XR5C2HU38KY6DS13R

reinhard voigt - how we rock1
depeche mode - the darkest star (holden dub)
pier bucci - l'nuit
gui boratto - great match
ali khan - waterbomb
guido schneider - bassism
marc ashken - carrot
petter - robotfood
butane - a bus with wings
butane - flexor (run stop restore remix)
robag wruhme - waffellekkspander
alex smoke - tv is pish
magda - lockjaw
duoteque - adrya
marc ashken - inside track
alex smoke - don't see the point
alter ego - daktari (matt john remix)

― mark (kingofnothing), Saturday, 18 March 2006 10:51 (twenty years ago)

short mix of some recent(ish) minimal(ish) stuff that I have on vinyl and wanted to listen to on my ipod

http://threethreefourfive.blogspot.com/2006/03/quick-mix-vol-3.html
http://homepage.mac.com/drenard/.Public/QuickMix3.mp3

dopplereffekt - myon-neutrino
villalobos - serpentin
trentemoller - sunstroke
frank martiniq - boost (robag wruhme's bokkser mix)
noze - tulip schnaps
isolee - face b

― Renard (Renard), Monday, 27 March 2006 00:03 (twenty years ago)

i've got a two-part radio session up at my mixes site. actually only part 1 is up there, and part two is here (or here if that one expires). no tracklist just yet but expect the usual subjects from me.... villuciano, trentenomy, mobilakant et al.

― philip sherburne (philip sherburne), Monday, 27 March 2006 11:51 (twenty years ago)

New NYC Calling All Kids mix (www.callingallkids.tv) of post punk and modern derivatives.

http://www.callingallkids.tv/eamonharkinCAK4.mp3

1. ESG - Party

2. !!! - Turn This Thing On (Rub'n'tug Mix)

3. Hot Chip - Over And Over

4. Bauhaus - Kick In The Eye

5. Vitalic - My Friend Dario

6.The Undertones - Teenage Kicks

7. The Juan Maclean - Give Me Every Little Thing (Cajmere Mix)

8. The Gossip - Standing In The Way Of Control (Le Tigre Mix)

9. Skatt Brothers - Walk The Night

10. Liquid Liquid - Optimo

11. Jon Spencer Blues Explosion - Mars Arizona (DFA Mix)

11. Loose Joints - Is It All Over My Face?

12. New Order - Bizarre Love Triangle

13. Cut Copy - Going Nowhere (Digitalism Mix)

14. Gang Of Four - To Hell With Poverty

15. Chromatics - Healer

16. Delta 5 - Mind Your Own Business

― eamon harkin (harkine), Tuesday, 28 March 2006 00:21 (twenty years ago)

Ohm Sweet Ohm mix. 76 min.

Ohm sweet Ohm part1

Ohm sweet Ohm part2

Errors – Hans Herman
Copyshop – Mystery guest (darkfaders dub)
Emperor Machine – Roller Daddy
Can – Mothersky (PSK1 edit)
Neu – Für Immer
Death in Vegas – Head
Blackstrobe –Keine lust (front 242 rmx)
Human League – Being boiled
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Tangerine Dream - Nebulous dawn (excerpt)
Silver Apples – Oscillations
Shyza Minelli – New found acid
Isolee – My Hi-matic
Painted Nails – Hot doctor
Delia & Gavin - Rise DFA mix
Nemesi – Cosmica
Fictional Character – From another world
“Manhunter” Soundtrack – Grahams theme
M83 – Don’t save us from the flames (superpitcher mix)
Technova – Atmosphere

equipment = 2 turntables and a cup of Tea.
(Sample overdubs excluded)

― Danny Boy, Tuesday, 28 March 2006 07:31 (twenty years ago)

that looks terrific daniel. downloading it now - lots of favorites ánd the PSK1 edit of Mother Sky that I've been looking for for ages!! fruitlessly tried it on two ysi-threads. (could you, maybe, e-mail or ysi that edit to me?)

― willem -- (willem), Tuesday, 28 March 2006 07:41 (twenty years ago)

And here's a new London Calling All Kids mix

http://www.callingallkids.tv/WeekendMix3.mp3

1. KLF - America No More (Just The Pipe Band)
2. Flying Rhythms - Doragon Balls
3. Syclops - The Fly
4. Spektrum - Horny Pony (Greg Wilson Mix)
5. Molloy - This Is Fucking Brilliant
6. New Young Pony Club - Get Dancey
7. The Honeymoon Killers - Wait And See
8. The Gossip - Standing In The Way Of Control
9. Sugardaddy - Love Honey (Acid)
10. Arthur Russell - Arm Around You
11.Tussle - I'm An Indian Too
12. Chromeo - Needy Girl (Paper Faces Remix)

― weekendsteve, Tuesday, 28 March 2006 08:03 (twenty years ago)

willem, Ill rip it at the weekend and YSI it over.
the PSK remix almost makes up for the sacriledge album which was pretty poor.
you could always cut it out the mix as I pretty much play the whole thing.
for a really great krautrock look for the optimo- sour kraut mix on P2P.

― danny boy, Tuesday, 28 March 2006 09:25 (twenty years ago)

thanks danny. agreed about sacriledge, but in the context of tim sweeney's rvng#3 mix the unkle remix of "vitamin c" works nicely i think. i'll look out for that optimo-mix.

― willem -- (willem), Tuesday, 28 March 2006 09:54 (twenty years ago)

the bladerunner mix of future days is a nice grower too, but its a sad day when a lavelle remix is the best of the album.

if they had just held out the release of sacriledge till everyone had forgotten about intelligent drum and bass.

maybe time for sacriledge 2???

― danny boy, Tuesday, 28 March 2006 10:21 (twenty years ago)

As JAxon upthread requested it here is...

Death Jam 01 - The Little Black Cloud That Cried
Mark Lindsay - Lone Wolf's Theme
Gay Shingleton - In My Time of Sorrow
Bloc Party - Shes Hearing Voices (Erol Alkan Dub)
Christ Child - Star Whores
Ricardo Villalobos - Dexter
Chicago - 25 or 6 to 4
Zombi - Cetus
Annie - Heartbeat (Maurice Fulton Mix)
Ciara - Oh (Ghislain Poirier Mix)
Ciara - Oh
Osamu Kitajima - Benzaiten Repris
Absolute Body Control - Terminus
Can - Moonshake
Fad Gadget - Collapsing New People (Collapsing Westbam Mix)
Yellow Magic Orchestra - Computer Games
Tantra - Top Shot (Disconet Remix)
Goblin - Mad Puppet
Michael Bundt - The Brain of Oskar Panizza
The Human League - Do or Die (Dub)
Rich Boy - Get to Poppin' (Instrumental)
Brave New World - Alpha Beta Gamma Delta Epsilon
Acid Pauli - I See a Dark(er)ness
Pulp & The Swingle Singers - My Body May Die

It was the first beatmatched mix I did so it's not perfect--the shape of it is all over--but it has a lot of good music on it and is fun.

Volume two can still be obtained here.

― Raw Patrick (Raw Patrick), Wednesday, 29 March 2006 17:31 (twenty years ago)

http://www.neohz.com/mixes/1%20Percent.mp3

first mix i've ever recorded... track selection is a little "obvious" to those who consider 3 month old records "old", or Philip ;-P... but this is a demo of sorts, and i felt like i needed more hooks than most of the recent records i have bought provide... handmixed.

1. Superpitcher "People" (Kompakt)
2. Alex Smoke "Wingnut" (Vakant)
3. Beese & Schmitz "Meander" (Liebe Detail)
4. Martin Landsky "Reject" (Poker Flat)
5. My My "Backdoor Pilot" (Playhouse)
6. Ada "Linedriver" (Areal)
7. Misc. "Wire Work" (Sender)
8. Metope "33" (Areal)
9. David Hausdorf "Tiefenrausch" (Lifetime Music)
10. Kaito "Breaking the Star" (Kompakt)

Cheers!

― Aaron Grossman (aajjgg), Sunday, 2 April 2006 09:27 (twenty years ago)

omg two songs off the same label, i'm totally not inviting aaron to my friend's opening

― Lukas (lukas), Sunday, 2 April 2006 11:33 (twenty years ago)

any mix that includes my my gets a full pass for any other excesses, and liebe detail gives you extra points, so i'd say you're safe. :)

― philip sherburne (philip sherburne), Sunday, 2 April 2006 12:11 (twenty years ago)

(xpost)
i did it twice! i must be horrid!
also, you better not invite http://www.discogs.com/artist/Dominik+Eulberg either! There are three kompakts on the first disc alone!

― Aaron Grossman (aajjgg), Sunday, 2 April 2006 12:18 (twenty years ago)

(first disc = "kreucht", obv.)

― Aaron Grossman (aajjgg), Sunday, 2 April 2006 12:20 (twenty years ago)

philip. my next mix will consist of only tracks released on labels that have only existed since 2005 that have ten releases or less and are distributed solely by WAS ;-)

― Aaron Grossman (aajjgg), Sunday, 2 April 2006 12:27 (twenty years ago)

SELLOUT!

― Raw Patrick (Raw Patrick), Sunday, 2 April 2006 20:03 (twenty years ago)

my next mix will consist of only unreleased material cut in limited test pressings to acetate by under-18 techno-savants living in third-world countries!

maybe we should start a thread: critique the tracklistings of mixes you haven't heard yet!

― Aaron Grossman (aajjgg), Sunday, 2 April 2006 20:42 (twenty years ago)

this one's a bit shorter than some of my earlier mixes. enjoy!

untitled 62:19

symbols and instruments - mood [kms]
theo parrish - falling up (carl craig remix) [third ear]
alex smoke - don't see the point (henrik schwarz vocal mix) [soma]
guido schneider - channel one [tuning spork]
isolée - cité grande terre (luciano's luck Of lucien edit) [playhouse]
dub taylor - cocaine [organic domain]
jamie jones - amazon [freak n'chic]
dapayk solo - mrogs [karloff]
martinez - cosmic transmission [deeplay soultec]
anders ilar - a day ago [narita]
matthias tanzmann - bulldozer (robags herbstmoosmutzel remix) [moon harbour]
reynold - altoids [morris/audio]
télépopmusik - don't look back (john tejada mix) [refuge]

― breakfast pants (disco stu), Monday, 3 April 2006 03:54 (twenty years ago)

nice. i always enjoy tricky's mixes.

― Good Dog (Good Dog), Monday, 3 April 2006 12:30 (twenty years ago)

that mix looks like the tits, breakfast pants.

here's my latest, eqwe.

a short set recorded live this past weekend, full of sunny/rolling/groovy dnb tunes and then gets a bit more tech at the end.

origin unknown - valley of the shadows
ltj bukem - rainfall
calibre - cold halo
dj marky - lk
st cal - henshaw dub
influx datem - back for more
fortran - place to be
ed rush & optical - funktion
genotype - extra terristral
ed rush & optical - slip thru
dom & roland - parasite

21:00mins

― harshaw (jube), Monday, 3 April 2006 17:56 (twenty years ago)

Hey, I have an electro mix if anyone is interested... about 40mins

http://s49.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=0E8UN7I00P11M0A6Q2AZY6V3KP

Rockwell ft. Micheal Jackson - Someone's Watching (Original)
4Tune500 - Strung Out (Original)
Luke Dzierzeck - Echo (John Dahlback Mix)
House Trap - The Way (Filterheadz Mix)
True Bill - Let the Music Flow (original)
Boyko pres. Sound Shocking - Z- Music (Electro Orgasm Mix)
Freeform Five - No More Conversations (Mylo Mix)
Royksopp - What Else is There (Trentemoller Mix)

www.eclex.bravehost.com

― E-Clex, Monday, 3 April 2006 21:18 (twenty years ago)

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