David Bowie - The Next Day

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Do yoi think it's great? Your blog post sounded meh.

the little prince of inane false binary hype (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 9 January 2013 20:58 (eleven years ago) link

I'm not screaming masterpiece from the rooftops, but Eyeball Kicks just summed up kinda what I take from it. The few times I've played it I've gone between, "Hmm, okayish" to "No, wait, there is something here" and a little back again.

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 9 January 2013 20:59 (eleven years ago) link

Still sounds like "The Pretty Things Are Going to Sleep"

the little prince of inane false binary hype (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 9 January 2013 21:04 (eleven years ago) link

So according to his official page...

https://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash3/19225_10151174237357665_1508078948_n.jpg

Here's another treat from Jimmy King...an exclusive photograph of David Bowie taken while having lunch at a Japanese restaurant yesterday.

Now that is the look of a man at peace with himself having just heard about some of the reaction to yesterday's announcements...possibly.

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 9 January 2013 23:43 (eleven years ago) link

Kinda hope this Andy Capp phase of his keeps going.

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 9 January 2013 23:44 (eleven years ago) link

strike a light guv, it's 'im from mary pawpins

impound the alarm (NickB), Wednesday, 9 January 2013 23:46 (eleven years ago) link

Bowie (thinks) "Damn, those pisstakers from ILX are doing a pre-covers album..."

scattered to the nine vectors (snoball), Wednesday, 9 January 2013 23:54 (eleven years ago) link

Dude looking fucking great. I like this. I hope the album is quiet, considered, statesman-like. I have too high hopes. Oh god.

kraudive, Thursday, 10 January 2013 00:30 (eleven years ago) link

hours and Heathen were quiet and statesman-like, no?

the little prince of inane false binary hype (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 10 January 2013 00:35 (eleven years ago) link

xp yeah i was just saying to my gf that his superimposed face in that video finally has him looking his actual fucking age, but it must have been an illusion. i work w/ dudes hovering around 40 looking worse off than that. what is his secret.

arby's, Thursday, 10 January 2013 00:38 (eleven years ago) link

the song is solid.

arby's, Thursday, 10 January 2013 00:38 (eleven years ago) link

whose is the other face in the video?

mookieproof, Thursday, 10 January 2013 00:45 (eleven years ago) link

Enjoying this. Production is a bit blah, but there IS something affecting about the song.

Artists reusing albums covers (back cover version):

http://phobos.express.ge/ZoneG/20/mp3//Duran_1997_Medazzaland/.photo/Duran%20Duran%20-%20Medazzaland%20-%20Back.jpg

mr.raffles, Thursday, 10 January 2013 03:10 (eleven years ago) link

http://www.phiiliip.com/iciclesa1.gif

Can't find a full picture, and i've never actually gotten this album, but the cover for Phiiliip's 2000 CD Icicles and Spike Sculptures appears to be the Beatles "White Album" w the Beatles crossed out and Philip written in.

Emperor Cos Dashit (Adam Bruneau), Thursday, 10 January 2013 03:29 (eleven years ago) link

Effecting enough to make ya forget how to spell effecting!

mr.raffles, Thursday, 10 January 2013 03:36 (eleven years ago) link

Still think the single fades out and ends too quickly - was waiting for an epic (or at least traditional) turn at the end but was left hanging. Production sounds terrific - kinda expecting the album to sound like a Gilmour or Ferry solo album. Not such a bad thing either.

I thought for sure the other head in the video was Bjork's.

Elvis Telecom, Thursday, 10 January 2013 05:13 (eleven years ago) link

Video director's wife, apparently.

Chief Duff (Eazy), Thursday, 10 January 2013 05:33 (eleven years ago) link

Man, what a beautiful vocal performance.

This, and the transition into the bridge. It's simple, simply great. Also, not like the rest of the album, according to Visconti.

willem, Thursday, 10 January 2013 07:41 (eleven years ago) link

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BAOVkeoCYAEgdMF.jpg

Chief Duff (Eazy), Thursday, 10 January 2013 07:51 (eleven years ago) link

Republica?

Mark G, Thursday, 10 January 2013 08:25 (eleven years ago) link

fuck yeah dropkick murphys consecutive sundays

mookieproof, Thursday, 10 January 2013 08:27 (eleven years ago) link

or someday i suppose

mookieproof, Thursday, 10 January 2013 08:28 (eleven years ago) link

"David Bryne".

mike t-diva, Thursday, 10 January 2013 08:49 (eleven years ago) link

"AlanaGeorge"

mike t-diva, Thursday, 10 January 2013 08:50 (eleven years ago) link

"Fisherspooner"

mike t-diva, Thursday, 10 January 2013 08:51 (eleven years ago) link

"Totally Enourmous Extinct Dinosaurs"... I'll stop now.

mike t-diva, Thursday, 10 January 2013 08:52 (eleven years ago) link

"Band That Plays While You Go And Queue Up To Buy Beer"

scattered to the nine vectors (snoball), Thursday, 10 January 2013 08:55 (eleven years ago) link

"Is this an old poster?"

Well, put it this way: "La Roux" means it's not more than five years ago, and "Adam Ant" tells me it must be this year...

Mark G, Thursday, 10 January 2013 09:03 (eleven years ago) link

This has been doing the rounds on Twitter but is pretty wtf:
http://lefsetz.com/wordpress/index.php/archives/2013/01/09/david-bowie/

Neil S, Thursday, 10 January 2013 09:33 (eleven years ago) link

nice Pete Paphides response to the above (and others)
http://hiddentracks.org/

piscesx, Thursday, 10 January 2013 13:55 (eleven years ago) link

Okay, we're getting more info here:

http://ultimateclassicrock.com/earl-slick-david-bowie-new-album-interview/

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 10 January 2013 16:32 (eleven years ago) link

‘The Next Day’ also features contributions from an impressive lineup of musicians in addition to Slick, including familiar Bowie collaborators such as drummers Sterling Campbell and Zachary Alford, guitarists Gerry Leonard and David Torn, and bassist Gail Ann Dorsey. Tony Visconti, who also produced ‘The Next Day,’ contributes bass, as does Tony Levin, who’s known for his work with Peter Gabriel.

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 10 January 2013 16:33 (eleven years ago) link

Some interesting peek behind the curtain stuff here:

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What was your methodology when you were adding your music? How did you motivate the performance you wanted to get? How much direction did you get?

You know, we’ve been doing this since day one, and what we’ll do is, we’ll sit down and we’ll listen to the stuff. And he’ll ask me how it hits me — how does this hit you, how does that hit you? Or he’ll go, “This one you gotta be on.” And we’ll sit down, we’ll listen to the song — well, we’ll sit in the control room with a couple of acoustic guitars and then we just bang ideas around. I’ll go, “What do you think about this?” He goes, “What do you think about that?” It’s not like taking direction as a session player would take direction, because that’s why I don’t do sessions—cause I can’t take direction. [Laughs.]

What he’s done since day one — and still continues to do — is, he knows exactly what it is that I bring to the table, and that’s what he wants. He doesn’t want me to sound like anybody but me. So we just sit there and we just hash through ideas until something hits one of us, and then we record it. It’s real casual — you know, you throw a couple cups of coffee on the table and you pick up a few guitars and we listen through some tracks. And he already knows pretty much what he wants me on, but then I’ll say, “Well, let me play you these and see if these hit you. If they do, let’s work out some parts.” It’s really casual. And that’s why it gets done quickly and efficiently, because it’s all done organically.

The music I really like tends to be the more spontaneous music — not very meticulous. There’s a time and a place for that, but it can sound so airless and stuffy.

It’s really funny, as sophisticated as some of his records sound, he’s not anal about this stuff. And neither am I, and that’s why we get along so well. I’ll do a take that’s really not perfect, but it is perfect, because it feels great. Therein lies the perfection: It lies in what it feels like and what it does to you emotionally, not the exact notes. I can play a note that’s a little bit on the outside — like, “What the hell was that?” — and then we listen back to it and we go, “Wow, that felt really good.” And we just leave it alone. Whereas some guys will sit there and they’ll try to fix a weird note. Those weird notes, to me, is what really makes it happen. Of course—listen to the Stones. Keith Richards is my hero. In my mind, he’s the best guitar player ever. And Keith’s stuff has definitely got some urgency to it, and it’s definitely not perfect. But boy, when it comes to feel, it doesn’t get any more perfect than Keith.

I think the term is “loose.”

It is — it’s loose, and it’s emotional. That’s what it is. And that’s, to me, what rock and roll is supposed to be about. If you want perfection, go see a symphony orchestra.

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 10 January 2013 16:35 (eleven years ago) link

Here's my take on the video after watching and listening a few times (I find this song pretty moving the more I listen. I love the shakiness in his voice and those somber chords.): Oursler set Bowie up to watch footage of Berlin as he lipsynched the lyrics. Bowie's face is simultaneously projected onto the doll. Oursler's wife is listening to the song (in a seperate room?) and her face, as she listens, is also projected onto the doll. Maybe?

That elusive North American wood-ape (Capitaine Jay Vee), Thursday, 10 January 2013 19:20 (eleven years ago) link

^Oh I love that.

willem, Friday, 11 January 2013 11:51 (eleven years ago) link

Oursler set Bowie up to watch footage of Berlin as he lipsynched the lyrics. Bowie's face is simultaneously projected onto the doll. Oursler's wife is listening to the song (in a seperate room?) and her face, as she listens, is also projected onto the doll. Maybe?

Bet you're right. The concept improves the video, so I'll go with it.

FunkyTonk, Friday, 11 January 2013 13:31 (eleven years ago) link

I'm sorry. Much as I love Bowie, I really don't enjoy this song at all. The whole thing sounds so lifeless. The production is straight from the Big Book of AOR Ballads (c) 1992. The songwriting is flat, uninspired, lacking in any sort of dynamism. It doesn't come close to achieving the stately mood it's trying to go for, plodding along like a tired dirge, barely lifting its head above the mire of pedestrian chord choices and workaday key changes. Bowie can be forgiven for not having the voice he used to, but rather than adapting and altering his vocal technique to suit his new range (like some other singers of his age), he just does the default Bowie voice albeit in a flatter, less risky way. I know we're all excited about his return, and fair play to the man, but this is more "That's Why God Made The Radio" than "Bish Bosch" or "American Recordings" - a dim impression of Bowie's previous work, with all the life sucked out of it.

Also when I first saw the video, I assumed it was a homemade fan vid. I couldn't believe it was the real thing.

besides Sunny Real Estate (dog latin), Friday, 11 January 2013 13:51 (eleven years ago) link

Don't be sorry: to each his own, also with regards to the interpretation of a vocal performance. But this:

adapting and altering his vocal technique to suit his new range (like some other singers of his age), he just does the default Bowie voice albeit in a flatter, less risky way

..is not what I hear at all. Why should he adapt his technique like some other singers of his age? What this new range? What less risky about it? It's a more limited range, sure, but the timbre of his voice in the single is something I haven't heard him do before. It's very touching (to me).

willem, Friday, 11 January 2013 14:46 (eleven years ago) link

Harry Hill's entire career (minus badgers and Burt Kwouk) summarised.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eIyZap4StYg

pure dressed up like a white ninja (snoball), Friday, 11 January 2013 14:50 (eleven years ago) link

Tony Viaconti interview. Lefsetz = "old fart". http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/david-bowie-producer-new-album-411233

mike t-diva, Friday, 11 January 2013 16:47 (eleven years ago) link

Visconti, even

mike t-diva, Friday, 11 January 2013 16:47 (eleven years ago) link

"We would catch up on the latest British comedy -- Ricky Gervais, Peter Cooke and Dudley Moore, Harry and Paul."

Eyeball Kicks, Friday, 11 January 2013 16:54 (eleven years ago) link

There's a lot of that kind of thing in there.

Eyeball Kicks, Friday, 11 January 2013 16:54 (eleven years ago) link

xxxp the whole of Visconti's last answer is worth quoting:

"Well, he used to be cutting-edge but he's an old jerk now. He is so out of touch with what people want. This album is already No. 1 in 20 countries and it hasn't even been released yet, so that's evidence that the album is the way to go. It might be not be for everybody because, honestly, people don't write enough good material to fill an album anymore. So Lefsetz is a complete asshole. At one time, a few years ago, he had his day in the sun but now he is basically an old fart and I am bored with what he says."

quality pwnage

pure dressed up like a white ninja (snoball), Friday, 11 January 2013 18:02 (eleven years ago) link

Tony Visconti says [28 minutes ago near New York, NY]
Band members on The Next Day: Zachary Alford, Sterling Campbell, Gail Ann Dorsey, Tony Levin, Gerry Leonard, David Torn, Earl Slick, David Bowie, Henry Hey, Steve Elson, Janice Pendarvis, Alex Alexander, Antoine Silverman (and his string quartet) and me. We are no longer 'gagged.' ;)

Tony Visconti says:
Where Are We Now? Musicians: David Bowie, piano/strings, Zachary Alford, drums, Tony Levin, bass, Gerry Leonard, guitar, Henry Hey, additional piano, me keyboard strings. Small group making a big sound.

mike t-diva, Saturday, 12 January 2013 09:07 (eleven years ago) link

As for Bowie, Tony Visconti seems confident that The Next Day is a new beginning rather than simply one last hurrah. They ended up recording 29 songs, he says, and even on the deluxe edition of the album, there are only 17 tracks. "We have tracks left over that are really great, that just didn't fit with this batch, so I know we have the makings of another album. And I know he wants to keep recording. I'm not sure when, but I think he'll be back in the studio later this year."

Milk and Honey....It even shares Earl Slick and Tony Levin.

mohel hell (Bob Six), Saturday, 12 January 2013 10:03 (eleven years ago) link

Wasn't this fellow latterly of this parish?

Grampsy, Saturday, 12 January 2013 10:44 (eleven years ago) link

Well there ya go!

Ned Raggett, Saturday, 12 January 2013 13:47 (eleven years ago) link

I love it when people describe music as "material" or even better "product"
It actually gives me chills

friday goodness thank it's (flamboyant goon tie included), Saturday, 12 January 2013 14:50 (eleven years ago) link


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