Finally Rich - Chief Keef

i never actually heard 50 Tyson before just now, had only seen pictures of him etc. -- this guy is definitely operating on roughly the same skill level as Chief Keef

I have been holding back on the 50 Tyson comparisons itt so I'm glad someone else brought it up

i don't know what's wrong with just saying the dude made a moderately enjoyable, well produced album of negligible lyrical merit. i put it on par with the Travis Porter joint.

but literally the very first time i heard "i don't like" i hear "fart nigga'...

― Andrew WKRP (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, January 9, 2013 1:18 PM (6 minutes ago) Bookmark

okay this is a bit much

maybe some people aren't super familiar with the wonderful "fuck boy"/"fuck n---a" variety of rap insults

this kinda baffles me slightly b/c it makes everything sound like gay porn

― lex pretend, Wednesday, January 9, 2013 1:18 PM (8 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

always a fine line between homophobia and homoeroticism in rap, cf DMX

50 tyson comparisons are absurd, stop

Anti-lyrical sounds correct.

alright i'll retract the 50 tyson thing if that means we can stop the clusterfuck

you didn't start the fire, homie

get the fuck out with the 50 tyson shit

al should be embarrassed

i'm not saying the hemiola thing is real or not, don't know enough to say

but i think deej is right that there's some kind of method to the madness, rhythmically, which i think is illustrated by the difference between the tracks where the way in which keef is offbeat works and the one in which it doesn't, like this finally rich song really fucking sucks

but then on hate being sober, love sosa, 3hunna, etc it kinda vibes in a weird/cool way

"cigo" - again reminds me of chillwave type stuff, at least the intro

Travis Porter joint is good!

that jeezy verse is terrible imo

like... "damn, can jeezy still rap?" terrible

lyrically i like the jeezy verse but it definitely sounds stiff & old mannish by comparison

And citgo is very chillwave, yes.

this citgo song is bizarre

yeah the jeezy verse wasn't good really, but it was just sort of interesting as a point of comparison, like maybe these beats aren't made to be rapped on beat?

VSTs becoming mainstream has really changed hip hop

al should be embarrassed

― rap steve gadd (D-40), Wednesday, January 9, 2013 1:34 PM (4 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

i know! i don't know how i went years without actually hearing his music

he is not saying 'fart' what is wrong with u people

been busy all morning but this is really a must for the new ilm board description

The 5 Tyson comparison is ridiculous (albeit amusing) but this definitely isn't the first I'm hearing of the "fart" thing.

haha got them bands is ridiculous

hmmm

i kind of don't know what to think, it's really something!

i def agree w/aero & the haters that he's not a great rapper per se, but on the better songs he definitely functions are part of the track in a unique and very catchy way. it's distinctive for sure.

the biggest worry i would have if i were from the deej/j0rd camp is that, with a couple of exceptions, the best songs on this are the big songs that were around before the album comes out....

overall, it's kind of an exhausting listen and i'm not sure i will listen to it again.

aero & the haters are playing at the vfw next week btw, please come out and support the scene

more than half the album was out before the album.

aero & the haters vfw jackoff jam sesh

the biggest problem i see is that where does he go from here? he either gets more conventional and "better", which would probably lose what makes him distinctive, or stays in the same stylistic rut, which, judging by this album, he may have already released the best, most iconic keef qua keef tracks before the album even came out.

aero & the haters are playing at the vfw next week btw, please come out and support the scene

would love to hear Joe Perry do one of these

I mean one of these:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LAMdXIASuo8

overall, it's kind of an exhausting listen and i'm not sure i will listen to it again.

This. I prefer small doses of Keef, the entire record just wears me out so much.

aero & the haters' "misunderstood demon (bel canto aria)" b/w "fun. loves my shit" is a nu-hardcore classic imo

thx matt

This. I prefer small doses of Keef, the entire record just wears me out so much.

― HAPPY BDAY TOOTS (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, January 9, 2013 2:05 PM (20 seconds ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

p a good idea since he smell like farts e'ryday iirc

the biggest problem i see is that where does he go from here? he either gets more conventional and "better", which would probably lose what makes him distinctive, or stays in the same stylistic rut, which, judging by this album, he may have already released the best, most iconic keef qua keef tracks before the album even came out.

― Andrew WKRP (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, January 9, 2013 2:03 PM (4 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

yeah this is why j0rdan's super confident "he's gonna be around for a bit" proclamations make me curious what people believe his best case scenario is

keef qua keef

<3

a queef n---a, that's the shit i don't like

say "keef qua keef" five times fast

I'm gonna incorporate "keef qua keef" into my vocal warmups

diction is done with the keef qua keef qua kee-eeeef

Discussion is reminding me of the late 80s when hardcore bands who picked up instruments for the first time a week before they recorded an ep were described as Beefheartian in zines

― President Keyes, Wednesday, January 2, 2013 10:17 AM (1 week ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

i thought this was kinda otm, not even so much the beefheart thing but ultimately a lot of the great hardcore bands really only released a small handful of great/vital/amazing songs and then were fairly used up but that's cool, like how many MDC songs do you need? but there are parallels, in that keef seems to be rooted in this really grassroots, insular local thing (and obv the violence has some parallels to hardcore too)...but it almost feels like i don't like/sober/sosa/etc are like the faith/void split kinda thing and how much more keef will i ever need?

it almost feels like i don't like/sober/sosa/etc are like the faith/void split kinda thing

whether I agree with the point or not you deserve an award for this

the biggest problem i see is that where does he go from here? he either gets more conventional and "better", which would probably lose what makes him distinctive, or stays in the same stylistic rut, which, judging by this album, he may have already released the best, most iconic keef qua keef tracks before the album even came out.

― Andrew WKRP (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, January 9, 2013 2:03 PM (4 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

yeah this is why j0rdan's super confident "he's gonna be around for a bit" proclamations make me curious what people believe his best case scenario is

― ThePartyHater (some dude), Wednesday, January 9, 2013 1:09 PM (1 hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

there are more than a few tracks on this that could be singles imo. considering everyone keeps saying he has '15 mins' meanwhile his buzz lasted all year & resulted in 50k in first week album sales with zero songs in rotation, a song shooting up the hot 100, i can see why people think he's probably got more staying power than critics keep suggesting

i guess i wasn't talking about commercial success or buzz, more just as an artist in the long term

i dunno i think so far he's shown a gift for hooks & an addictive rap style, we'll see how long it takes for him to burn out like anyone else

looks like he might get sent to jail tho

oh man, let's just hope he doesn't jump straight to the No Mercy/Trouble Man part of his career

gucci got a few chances

yeah he got to release a mixtape with "back" in the title three years after his last major label LP and everything