you know what doesn't have bass, i'm different
― 乒乓, Wednesday, 9 January 2013 17:56 (eleven years ago) link
though i think i *get* what deej & j0rd here in this, it's kind of the evolution of hip hop's movement away from strict lyricism into the idea of flow being the predominant function of the MC on the track (like that's ultimately what the rise of the south did to me)....
like keef is almost an anti-lyricist, like everything is stripped down to these weird verbal & rhythmic tics, like that "no tomorrow" track i just got done with was particularly fucked up from a flow perspective....
― Andrew WKRP (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 9 January 2013 17:58 (eleven years ago) link
the beat for "kay kay" reminds me of that washed out chillwave group
― Andrew WKRP (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 9 January 2013 18:02 (eleven years ago) link
haha the autotune on this is like the teen mom album
― Andrew WKRP (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 9 January 2013 18:03 (eleven years ago) link
one fun thing about this record is trying to figure out when he's saying "fart" on purpose or just pronouncing some other word in a way that sounds like "fart"
― Andrew WKRP (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 9 January 2013 18:04 (eleven years ago) link
man kay kay...oof...kind of a 50 tyson vibe on this
hahaha laughin' to the bank's hook....wow...i can't believe this is real
― Andrew WKRP (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 9 January 2013 18:06 (eleven years ago) link
in a way, he's almost a throwback to like reaaaaaally old school stuff, or old miami bass stuff where the dude on the mic isn't exactly a rapper more just cycling through phrases to get the crowd hyped, like an old mobile dj unit thing or something
― Andrew WKRP (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 9 January 2013 18:08 (eleven years ago) link
i don't think "flow" is the right word for chief keef's predominant function on tracks
― ThePartyHater (some dude), Wednesday, 9 January 2013 18:09 (eleven years ago) link
Well, you don't get much higher praise than a 50 Tyson comparison.
― tsrobodo, Wednesday, 9 January 2013 18:09 (eleven years ago) link
he is not saying 'fart' what is wrong with u people
― rap steve gadd (D-40), Wednesday, 9 January 2013 18:10 (eleven years ago) link
― Andrew WKRP (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, January 9, 2013 12:04 PM (5 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
huh??
tbf it really does sound at times like he's saying "fart" and since rappers go around comparing the smell of weed to armpits and cat piss i didn't really think it was out of the question for keef to say that about farts
― J0rdan S., Wednesday, 9 January 2013 18:11 (eleven years ago) link
bitch i'm fartin on em
― 乒乓, Wednesday, 9 January 2013 18:11 (eleven years ago) link
he's way more on beat on "diamonds"
the beats have been overall pretty good except for laughin' to the bank, but in a way i almost support laughin' to the bank because it's funny that something so fucked up wasn't like on wordsound records
deej, it's just the way he says certain words sounds like he's saying fart. to me.
― Andrew WKRP (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 9 January 2013 18:12 (eleven years ago) link
toot it and boot it
― Solange Knowles is my hero (DJP), Wednesday, 9 January 2013 18:12 (eleven years ago) link
i have never heard 'fart' it sounds like a willful mishearing esp when donald glover is doing it for 'yucks' in that Vice video
― rap steve gadd (D-40), Wednesday, 9 January 2013 18:13 (eleven years ago) link
maybe some people aren't super familiar with the wonderful "fuck boy"/"fuck n---a" variety of rap insults
― ThePartyHater (some dude), Wednesday, 9 January 2013 18:14 (eleven years ago) link
― rap steve gadd (D-40), Wednesday, January 9, 2013 1:13 PM (1 minute ago) Bookmark
on "kay kay" i def hear "fart" a few times
― J0rdan S., Wednesday, 9 January 2013 18:15 (eleven years ago) link
ballin' chorus is v catchy
deej honestly that's just what i heard ok, if you don't that's fine, but there's times it sounds like he's saying "fart" and there's really no other way i can explain that to you if you don't hear it.
― Andrew WKRP (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 9 January 2013 18:17 (eleven years ago) link
"kay kay" being named after his kid definitely helps with the farrah abraham vibe
― ThePartyHater (some dude), Wednesday, 9 January 2013 18:17 (eleven years ago) link
as far as donald glover, which lmao at the idea that i even know about donald glover fucking vice videos, but literally the very first time i heard "i don't like" i hear "fart nigga'...
― Andrew WKRP (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 9 January 2013 18:18 (eleven years ago) link
this kinda baffles me slightly b/c it makes everything sound like gay porn
― lex pretend, Wednesday, 9 January 2013 18:18 (eleven years ago) link
the 50 tyson thing is like the ppl who think we're just into dude b/c he's 'ignorant' it literally makes no sense to me that ppl can listen to these lyrics and think they're any more 'ignorant' than any street rapper ever
― rap steve gadd (D-40), Wednesday, 9 January 2013 18:18 (eleven years ago) link
or i guess bounce, which still functions like this.
― have a sandwich or ice cream sandwich (Jordan), Wednesday, 9 January 2013 18:18 (eleven years ago) link
woah jeezy's verse really points out how off-beat keef, or hemiola'd out, keef is....now it almost sounds jarring to hear jeezy rhyme strictly on beat, i've gotten kinda hypnotized into the way keef flows all over
― Andrew WKRP (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 9 January 2013 18:19 (eleven years ago) link
yeah jordan, bounce dudes too that's what i was getting at.
deej i just meant 50 tyson in that sometimes it sounds like a fuckin mess
but not always
and sometimes it's a good mess i guess?
― Andrew WKRP (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 9 January 2013 18:20 (eleven years ago) link
pretty much all street rap = 'ignorant' to a lot of people though, right?
― ThePartyHater (some dude), Wednesday, 9 January 2013 18:20 (eleven years ago) link
NOT FREDDIE GIBBS
― rap steve gadd (D-40), Wednesday, 9 January 2013 18:20 (eleven years ago) link
CAN WHITE CRITICS LIKE FREDDIE GIBBS? NO ONE CARES! A THINKPIECE
ee-e-e-e-e-eeeeeeeeeeee ascending sound? is that young chop? man it's all over the place
― Andrew WKRP (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 9 January 2013 18:22 (eleven years ago) link
i never actually heard 50 Tyson before just now, had only seen pictures of him etc. -- this guy is definitely operating on roughly the same skill level as Chief Keef
― ThePartyHater (some dude), Wednesday, 9 January 2013 18:22 (eleven years ago) link
I have been holding back on the 50 Tyson comparisons itt so I'm glad someone else brought it up
― regarding an eccentric and non-existent American Gladiator (crüt), Wednesday, 9 January 2013 18:24 (eleven years ago) link
i don't know what's wrong with just saying the dude made a moderately enjoyable, well produced album of negligible lyrical merit. i put it on par with the Travis Porter joint.
― ThePartyHater (some dude), Wednesday, 9 January 2013 18:25 (eleven years ago) link
but literally the very first time i heard "i don't like" i hear "fart nigga'...
― Andrew WKRP (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, January 9, 2013 1:18 PM (6 minutes ago) Bookmark
okay this is a bit much
― J0rdan S., Wednesday, 9 January 2013 18:25 (eleven years ago) link
― lex pretend, Wednesday, January 9, 2013 1:18 PM (8 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
always a fine line between homophobia and homoeroticism in rap, cf DMX
― ThePartyHater (some dude), Wednesday, 9 January 2013 18:27 (eleven years ago) link
50 tyson comparisons are absurd, stop
― J0rdan S., Wednesday, 9 January 2013 18:27 (eleven years ago) link
Anti-lyrical sounds correct.
― future kendricks (longneck), Wednesday, 9 January 2013 18:28 (eleven years ago) link
alright i'll retract the 50 tyson thing if that means we can stop the clusterfuck
― Andrew WKRP (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 9 January 2013 18:32 (eleven years ago) link
you didn't start the fire, homie
― ThePartyHater (some dude), Wednesday, 9 January 2013 18:32 (eleven years ago) link
get the fuck out with the 50 tyson shit
― rap steve gadd (D-40), Wednesday, 9 January 2013 18:34 (eleven years ago) link
al should be embarrassed
i'm not saying the hemiola thing is real or not, don't know enough to say
but i think deej is right that there's some kind of method to the madness, rhythmically, which i think is illustrated by the difference between the tracks where the way in which keef is offbeat works and the one in which it doesn't, like this finally rich song really fucking sucks
but then on hate being sober, love sosa, 3hunna, etc it kinda vibes in a weird/cool way
― Andrew WKRP (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 9 January 2013 18:34 (eleven years ago) link
"cigo" - again reminds me of chillwave type stuff, at least the intro
― Andrew WKRP (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 9 January 2013 18:35 (eleven years ago) link
Travis Porter joint is good!
― future kendricks (longneck), Wednesday, 9 January 2013 18:35 (eleven years ago) link
that jeezy verse is terrible imo
― J0rdan S., Wednesday, 9 January 2013 18:35 (eleven years ago) link
like... "damn, can jeezy still rap?" terrible
lyrically i like the jeezy verse but it definitely sounds stiff & old mannish by comparison
― rap steve gadd (D-40), Wednesday, 9 January 2013 18:36 (eleven years ago) link
And citgo is very chillwave, yes.
― future kendricks (longneck), Wednesday, 9 January 2013 18:36 (eleven years ago) link
this citgo song is bizarre
yeah the jeezy verse wasn't good really, but it was just sort of interesting as a point of comparison, like maybe these beats aren't made to be rapped on beat?
― Andrew WKRP (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 9 January 2013 18:36 (eleven years ago) link