Finally Rich - Chief Keef

best lyric on understand me is

'rob him for his stacks, if he's the son of sam / who gives a fuck we don't care bout nothin' fam'

you may say that "hate being sober" is merely a song title and not a "memorable" lyrics, but then again https://twitter.com/search?q=%22hate%20being%20sober%22&src=typd

i dont understand what longneck is saying btw

― rap steve gadd (D-40), Tuesday, January 8, 2013 11:47 PM (55 seconds ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Eh. Do you perceive a difference between Keef and Jessie's approaches to rapping on Understand Me? If so, what does it consist in?

was unaware son of sam had stacks tbh

i love the entire hate being sober verse, it all flows together perfectly:

On my tour bus, we get dumb high, you’s a floor boy
Fredo got a hangover he toting a Cobra
Last night he was shooting shit up like O-Dog
Reesy rollin, Tadoe got hoes on mollies
Chief Sosa, Ballout, we high riding ‘Raris
My bitches love drinking, some love smoking
Let my alcoholic bitch hit the dope, she start choking
Call up D-Money, now we throw money
All these bitches off the shits walk around like some zombies
Call up D-Money, now we throw money
All these bitches off the shits walk around like some zombies

"Watch me shoot this three, infirmaries, death / I got twenty seven more of them be courtesy shells"

I can't lie I really like this one a lot

was unaware son of sam had stacks tbh

― Welcome to my world of proses (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, January 8, 2013 5:50 PM (23 seconds ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

that's a separate thought. they rob him for his stacks, they're unafraid even if he's the son of sam

trying to pull apart where keef's lyrics are "good" and where they're "memorable" runs counter to the entire point of his music -- like waka he says he made a conscious decision to write simple lyrics. and if you admit that he has memorable lyrics -- or there's a mountain of evidence for that argument -- then the argument that he's a "shitty" lyrics kind of falls apart.

unlike w/ gucci i think most of keef's lyrics don't really translate well to being written out, tho

the "that boy jewelry lookin bleary like who sold him that shit" reminds me of gucci's "freakin partners probly never bother with a second option" tho, weird syllable play

this thread has become amazing and a future ilx classic. has made my work day well worth it

the "that boy jewelry lookin bleary like who sold him that shit" reminds me of gucci's "freakin partners probly never bother with a second option" tho, weird syllable play

― rap steve gadd (D-40), Tuesday, January 8, 2013 6:57 PM (44 seconds ago) Bookmark

also this epic pimp c quote

835bosse 6 months ago
"ALL YOU BITCH ASS NIGGAS OUT THERE BUYIN THAT O KING JOHNNY, WITH THEM CLOUDY ASS DIAMONDS, LOOK LIKE HURRICANE KATRINA JUST HIT!"- PIMP C

so "memorable" is the yardstick now

again, i didn't bring it up

jesus are we really going to go down that "what makes a lyric good" rabbit hole?

HOLY SHIT I ABSOLUTELY LOST IT AT: "Tuomas would body Keef in 8 bars and drop the mic onto the icy Finnish stage"

post of the year IMO.

because i'ma tell you right now, no two parties will ever agree on a definition

he has a cool voice and an original style. his voice sounds at once affectless and 'cool' (in that detached, unruffleable sense) & yet it PROJECTS. good rapper voice. his flow is original, w/ that weird off the beat swag that drives ship nuts, idk

the problem w/ this is the more people expect you to 'explain it' the more posts there are and then they can go LOOK YOU GUYS ARE OVERANALYZING HE JUST SAYS 'I CAN FUCK YOUR MAMA' AND YOU HAVE LIKE 50 POSTS LOL CASSIE FAN CLUB

its this inexcusable need to compare everything to Nas as if the Eazy E / Too Short / Pimp C yardstick was such a bad one

what's sh1p's username on here again?

this guy is no Too $hort gimme a fuckin break

xpost kl0pper

this guy is no Too $hort gimme a fuckin break

― Welcome to my world of proses (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, January 8, 2013 6:12 PM (1 minute ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

yes thats definitely the argument i was making

a 17 year old kid with one album and a couple mixtapes is too $hort

laughin at this slave's life

where is this sudden meme about waka being joyous and charismatic coming from

― D-40, Friday, December 14, 2012 5:02 PM (3 weeks ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

http://24.media.tumblr.com/5175859feaea8be5bada311aa929ada5/tumblr_mf238adrzr1r03eaxo1_500.gif

― rap steve gadd (D-40), Tuesday, January 8, 2013 6:34 PM (23 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Chief Keef why you say those nasty words

I'm just sayin if you want to go by the Eazy/Too $hort/Pimp C axis that's fine but he seems much more humorless/less comical to me and that makes it much less appealing

its this inexcusable need to compare everything to Nas as if the Eazy E / Too Short / Pimp C yardstick was such a bad one

This need is a strawman you pull out when you want to defend bad lyricists. AFAIK/IIRC Eazy didn't write his own rhymes but who can deny that "Real Muthaphuckkin Gs" is a great lyric? Not everybody's gonna be cerebral comb-through-it-for-hidden-meanings style, tand I can't speak for anybody else but that's not my complaint, I don't care what somebody's writing about or whether they're aiming for deeper truths or whatever. one can write well on any topic, and in a multitude of styles, as many styles as there are writers.

if we're taking "memorable" to mean "people can remember it" instead of "worth remembering" then yes, these are memorable. so is that band fun. by that yardstick.

well i think it's both and i like fun., so idk

j0rdan shutting down an argument by linking a search of a song title in twitter is some jason newsted "yes, we sell out ::claps hands:: every night, every seat in the house" shit

@ SD media-savvy waka is also post-quality music waka we all know this

I think fun. said something nice about me recently so I should stfu those guys are in a position to do a man a solid right now

too many encores, what makes a good lyricist?

http://i48.tinypic.com/cuooh.jpg

which one's the free space

after said video was posted to ilx for the first time:

haha waka kinda owns that video

― aim chtza (The Reverend), Friday, December 25, 2009 9:18 PM (3 years ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

waka is so gifable!

― stupid fruity crazy jag (J0rdan S.), Friday, December 25, 2009 10:03 PM (3 years ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

the middle one duh

waka is so gifable!

― stupid fruity crazy jag (J0rdan S.), Friday, December 25, 2009 10:03 PM (3 years ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

this proved to be correct

http://smokenmirrorsblog.files.wordpress.com/2010/12/waka_relaxxxin.gif

think we're not really arguing so much about 'best rap lyric of the year' so much as 'best rap catchphrase of the year'

j0rdan shutting down an argument by linking a search of a song title in twitter is some jason newsted "yes, we sell out ::claps hands:: every night, every seat in the house" shit

― ThePartyHater (some dude), Tuesday, January 8, 2013 7:23 PM (15 minutes ago) Bookmark

sorry that i turned to an obvious place in order to show that many people find his lyrics memorable

wait that gif is from 2010? how can that be? deej told me waka's charisma is a sudden 2012 invention! (xpost)

if you want to prove the LYRICS are memorable why did you link a search for a SONG TITLE

because it's also the central lyric and if you scroll through the results it's as much people quoting the hook than saying "hey i really like that song 'hate being sober'"

eh when i scrolled through it like every 20th tweet was a quote

j0rdan thinks The Source's "hip hop quotable of the month" used to be like 'you can find me in da club/ bottle full of bub'

too many encores, what makes a good lyricist?

there's no single yardstick - certainly not in rap, which did more to stretch the parameters of how to write well within a genre than any single genre ever has imo - as many styles as there are good writers. that said, solid rhymes are nice, being comfortable with meter but able to move freely within in it is great (this is imo where corny dudes do indeed go crazy for Nas, whose old stuff really did scan like he meant for it to be printed and studied), unexpected similies/metaphors/comparisons that jump out but not too harshly are good. vivid imagery that points to a vision uniquely belonging to the lyricist, one that's identifiably in a voice so that if somebody else covered it you might still be able to say "that sounds like a Chief Keef lyric." (I don't think anyone will ever say that.)

I mean there's no end to what makes a good lyricist, it's an endless craft.

j0rdan thinks The Source's "hip hop quotable of the month" used to be like 'you can find me in da club/ bottle full of bub'

― ThePartyHater (some dude), Tuesday, January 8, 2013 7:49 PM (2 minutes ago) Bookmark

i've spent more time than arguably anyone in the history of ilm transcribing lyrics to this message board, but that doesn't mean that all lyrics have to function the same way

so what's the line from a chief keef VERSE that people everywhere are quoting

J0rdan will you own that I am not claiming anywhere that all lyrics have to function in the same way because that is not my deal like at all and I take offense, sir, at the accusation as I perceive it