this story getting weirder and weirder.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-20931235
Influential guitarist Vini Reilly of the band The Durutti Column has spoken of his "embarrassment and humiliation" after fans sent £3,000 to help him pay his rent after he had three strokes.
― Talcum Mucker, Monday, 7 January 2013 20:32 (eleven years ago) link
Not so weird, really... I know plenty of folks who would rather die than accept money from friends, let alone strangers.
― the girl from spirea x (f. hazel), Monday, 7 January 2013 20:41 (eleven years ago) link
Fair play to him.
― djh, Monday, 7 January 2013 20:45 (eleven years ago) link
but his nephew has just posted on the DC facebook page that both he and Vini are upset at being misrepresented in the article, and posting a statement purported to be from Vini saying thanks for the donation...
― Talcum Mucker, Monday, 7 January 2013 20:47 (eleven years ago) link
Looks like Vini misspoke during the interview, and said humiliated when he meant humbled... in any event, he's accepted the donations and paid off his debts with them, so that's good. The fact that he's living on disability benefits is less good.
― the girl from spirea x (f. hazel), Thursday, 10 January 2013 17:09 (eleven years ago) link
Since I complained about their scattershot catalog, I figured I'd go ahead and come up with a non-lp comp, presented herewith, in order of release, excluding live tracks:
Durutti Column Odds and Ends, 1978-1986:
No Communication - A Factory SampleThin Ice (Detail) - A Factory SampleLips that Would Kiss - single A-sideMadeleine - single B-sideSleep Will Come - From Brussels With LovePiece For An Ideal - From Brussels With LoveWeakness & Fever - From Brussels With LoveFor Mimi - A Factory QuartetFor Belgian Friends - A Factory QuartetSelf-Portrait - A Factory QuartetEnigma – single A-sideDanny – single B-sideThe Eye And The Hand - The Fruit Of The Original SinParty - The Fruit Of The Original SinExperiment In Fifth - The Fruit Of The Original SinOne Christmas For Your Thoughts - Ghosts Of Christmas PastSnowflakes - Ghosts Of Christmas PastFor Patti - single A-sideFavourite Painting - Deux Triangles EPZinni - Deux Triangles EPPiece for Out of Tune Grande (sic) Piano - Deux Triangles EPI Get Along Without You Very Well - single A-sideLove Fading - single A-sideFor Noriko - single B-sideGoodbye - Say What You Mean EPThe Room - Say What You Mean EPA Little Mercy - Say What You Mean EPSilence - Say What You Mean EPE.E. - Say What You Mean EPHello - Say What You Mean EPThe Sea Wall - Un Hommage A Margueritte Duras Destroy, She Said - Un Hommage A Margueritte Duras Take Some Time Out - Un Hommage A Margueritte Duras Tomorrow – single A-sideAll That Love and maths Can Do - single B-sideFlorence Sunset – Greetings EPSan Giovanni Dawn – Greetings EPFor Friends In Italy – Greetings EP
That's everything up through "Valuable Passages", the period I'm most interested in at the moment. It turns out the upcoming 2CD reissue of "LC" gathers up about half of this and the rest is available on CD aside from the first two tracks and the "Love Fading" single.
― Gerald McBoing-Boing, Saturday, 12 January 2013 01:35 (eleven years ago) link
LC reissue? I've missed something.
― Ned Raggett, Saturday, 12 January 2013 02:55 (eleven years ago) link
behold
http://home.wxs.nl/~frankbri/fbn10.html
― trayce war (electricsound), Saturday, 12 January 2013 02:56 (eleven years ago) link
Will be my 4th copy of LC, but fuck it. Need to have it.
― brotherlovesdub, Saturday, 12 January 2013 03:33 (eleven years ago) link
I've always assumed that "Love fading" and "A silence" (issued as an extra track on the "Circuses and bread" reissue on LTM and on their "Short stories for Pauline" from last year) were the same song - Vini recycling his lyrics again. I could be wrong though,
― Rob M Revisited, Saturday, 12 January 2013 07:00 (eleven years ago) link
wow, thanks for that list, Gerald.
― brimstead, Saturday, 12 January 2013 07:53 (eleven years ago) link
Nice, was gonna hunt down th Factory Quartet double for those tracks.
Is "I get along without you" on CD then?
― Mark G, Saturday, 12 January 2013 10:32 (eleven years ago) link
yes
― trayce war (electricsound), Saturday, 12 January 2013 10:38 (eleven years ago) link
It's on the "Circuses and bread" LTM reissue. Another track from this era - 86 - is "The aftermath", which was on a compilation supporting animals (can't remember the full details) and is absolutely stunning.
― Rob M Revisited, Saturday, 12 January 2013 12:30 (eleven years ago) link
Yeah, "The Aftermath" falls between "Valuable Passages" and "Red Shoes" (which contains the Greetings EP) and thus is just out of my range. That'll start of the next odds and ends volume I compile!
― Gerald McBoing-Boing, Saturday, 12 January 2013 13:53 (eleven years ago) link
Classic. Itch scratching music if you get my drift.
― afriendlypioneer, Saturday, 12 January 2013 15:42 (eleven years ago) link
Has anyone got the "LC" reissue yet? Mine has shipped from Amazon today, was wondering if anyone had heard it yet?
― Rob M Revisited, Saturday, 9 February 2013 17:38 (eleven years ago) link
https://www.quaytickets.com/Online/default.asp?doWork%3A%3AWScontent%3A%3AloadArticle=Load&BOparam%3A%3AWScontent%3A%3AloadArticle%3A%3Aarticle_id=0A585B0B-484F-4F7E-A056-77803380B7FD&BOparam%3A%3AWScontent%3A%3AloadArticle%3A%3Acontext_id=D7E9C9A3-7F42-4FA2-96B8-40348BBCABBF
― djh, Saturday, 9 February 2013 18:41 (eleven years ago) link
An interesting interview from earlier this year which sheds some light on how Vini is now.
http://www.m-magazine.co.uk/interviews/interview-vini-reilly/
― Rob M Revisited, Saturday, 9 February 2013 19:18 (eleven years ago) link
Wonder why they felt the need to have LC come out on both LTM and 1972 at the exact same time. It was hard to tell on the digipac of the 1972 release if there were any bonus tracks on it. I don't even know of the remasters are the same across both labels or if they are the same ones that were on the Four Factory Records box set. Kind of a mess.
― svend, Thursday, 21 February 2013 19:30 (eleven years ago) link
probably cause 1972 is a boot label
― flaccid archives (electricsound), Thursday, 21 February 2013 21:40 (eleven years ago) link
Get the LTM 2cd edition, support one of the best labels around and get tons of extras.
― Gerald McBoing-Boing, Thursday, 21 February 2013 21:53 (eleven years ago) link
Seconded, it's a lovely album and the extras are fab. Even the demos that appeared on the "Four Factory Albums" set sound better on the LTM issue. I've been playing little else all week.
― Rob M Revisited, Thursday, 21 February 2013 22:21 (eleven years ago) link
I asked James from LTM if they had other DC reissues lined up but he was coy about it. I really hope "Another Setting" gets similar treatment!
― Gerald McBoing-Boing, Thursday, 21 February 2013 23:21 (eleven years ago) link
http://thequietus.com/articles/11476-vini-reilly-interview-durutti-column
― acid in the style of tenpole tudor (NickB), Tuesday, 26 February 2013 13:27 (eleven years ago) link
Sad thing is, every time this thread gets revived.....
― Mark G, Tuesday, 26 February 2013 13:39 (eleven years ago) link
From http://soundcloud.com/dave-8-2/vini-reilly-town-hall
Vini Reilly in-conversation with Dave Haslam at Manchester Town Hall on Sunday, March 3rd 2013, an event for CALM, a charity that reaches out to suicidal young men. This is an honest, and - especially from about 15/20 minutes in - a harrowing account of Vini's own problems with depression. He was determined to tell his story, uninterrupted, and discussed and agreed some of the content with Dave Haslam prior to taking the stage (and the interview is uploaded here with Vini's permission). The finale to the night was a performance of a song (one never recorded or released); his first public performance for nearly two years. But as Vini says "it's not about me". Please be aware this is not an easy listen; anyone who wants to know more, or has concerns about issues of suicide and depression please check out; www.thecalmzone.net where there's help available and also an opportunity to donate to help them with their work..
― Elvis Telecom, Friday, 19 April 2013 00:46 (eleven years ago) link
Prepare yourself. This is not at all an interview with a musician about music, and the latter part is quite intense.
― the girl from spirea x (f. hazel), Friday, 19 April 2013 00:51 (eleven years ago) link
I know I've written a lot on here about Durutti Column but now I've done it again on my new blog. Feel free to peruse or ignore, and maybe have a look at other things there.
https://agoldfishcalledregret.wordpress.com/2013/05/11/say-what-you-mean-mean-what-you-say/
― Rob M Revisited, Saturday, 11 May 2013 13:14 (eleven years ago) link
I really enjoyed that. Part of what I liked was reading your recollections of hunting down each individual release and what they meant to you personally. My memory is so bad I've forgotten a lot of moments like these, or can only half remember them, but reading this helped me remember, in a way. Cheers.
― Culture Cub (I am using your worlds), Saturday, 11 May 2013 21:37 (eleven years ago) link
Maybe it’s a teenage thing, everything seems more heightened then, your senses more attuned. But these days.. It’s just too easy. A few years ago I downloaded the entire career of a band I was interested in, and it took half an hour, and I still don’t think I’ve heard it all yet. I don’t feel the music is ‘mine’, I haven’t invested the time in it and the ease of getting the music has devalued it in my mind. I still prefer physical music – CDs – to anything else. I like the ‘artefact’ I suppose. I can still devote myself to new (and old, or new to me) music but the life of a mid forties family man with commitments doesn’t give so much chance to do that.
Worth repeating here. Thanks for the article.
― doug watson, Monday, 13 May 2013 16:05 (eleven years ago) link
this is pretty devastating and beautiful in parts
http://www.juliehamill.com/post/74722538816/fifteen-minutes-with-vini-reilly-guitarist-with
― Zen Dawson (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 28 January 2014 20:45 (ten years ago) link
Loved that interview. Got my reissue of Return of from Factory Benelux this week. Gorgeous packaging.
― brotherlovesdub, Tuesday, 28 January 2014 21:16 (ten years ago) link
I love the Durutti Column
― Milton Parker, Tuesday, 28 January 2014 21:22 (ten years ago) link
I couldn't wait for reissues and bit the bullet - Japanese CDs of "Another Setting" and "Without Mercy" are on their way to me.
― Gerald McBoing-Boing, Wednesday, 29 January 2014 01:01 (ten years ago) link
Liked that interview a lot, he's amazingly humble for a man who's made so many music fans happy
― Rotating prince game (I am using your worlds), Wednesday, 29 January 2014 01:04 (ten years ago) link
I bought all the Factory Too reissues and the 6 CD box thing so I'm done with buying CDs. What's the deal with the Japanese reissues? Vinyl replicas?
― brotherlovesdub, Wednesday, 29 January 2014 01:32 (ten years ago) link
Fantastic, heart-tugging interview — though I have to admit I winced a bit when I saw this topic upped, thinking it was because Vini had passed.
Can't wait for that Chronicle album to get released.
― Austin, Wednesday, 29 January 2014 01:57 (ten years ago) link
quite sad. its weird, i wouldnt associate violence with the guy but it seems to be a big issue in his life.
― everyday sheeple (Michael B), Wednesday, 29 January 2014 01:58 (ten years ago) link
I love Vini Reilly
Also I'm happy about the weird Viva Hate royalty dispute being settled once and for all
― DDD, Wednesday, 29 January 2014 10:27 (ten years ago) link
I must admit I came away from that interview with a vague feeling of ... I dunno ... it felt weird to hear him underplaying what he brought to Viva Hate.
― djh, Wednesday, 29 January 2014 17:53 (ten years ago) link
He's right that Late Night Maudlin Street is the highlight though. It has the most 'Durutti' guitar sound of any of the tracks.
― brotherlovesdub, Wednesday, 29 January 2014 18:35 (ten years ago) link
Not weird for me, seems more like this "humble genius" thing where highly skilled people underestimate their talents. Also having a stroke and reflecting your life/artistic legacy could have changed his self-assessment.
― DDD, Wednesday, 29 January 2014 18:39 (ten years ago) link
reflecting on*
Do you guys know about the extra/missing track on some versions of "Return" ?
― Mark G, Wednesday, 29 January 2014 18:43 (ten years ago) link
I had trouble following a lot of that Soundcloud interview, even at full volume. When he was saying "dont laugh at me", I wasnt sure if he meant someone in the audience or if it was about him feeling belittled by some people in general or something else. Also wondering if him talking about seeing an old lady getting beaten up is about something he saw happen or comparing that to the situation of some depressed people. I kept rewinding it and still couldnt really hear.
In that other interview he said that he doesnt get royalties from his albums. Did he mean that he actually doesnt at all or that they dont sell well enough for him to get much?
― Robert Adam Gilmour, Wednesday, 29 January 2014 18:44 (ten years ago) link
DDD ... I think what I meant was that the guitar on much of "Viva Hate" is undeniably Vini-esque ... and so it feels uncomfortable to read him crediting Street with the skills and dismissing his own previous claims as "displaced anger", when perhaps he was absolutely justified in feeling un(der)credited ... whilst not feeling surprised to read him denying he's anything special. Can understand why he would want peace with others, at this point though.
― djh, Wednesday, 29 January 2014 18:52 (ten years ago) link
He said he'd not "Sold anything" for 4 years, so I guess it's that.
I daresay he'll get a good amount from the new "Return of" reissue
― Mark G, Wednesday, 29 January 2014 18:55 (ten years ago) link
I'd hope so...but I don't know how much profit something like is going to make.
― dan selzer, Wednesday, 29 January 2014 18:57 (ten years ago) link
I was actually disappointed (truly disappointed) that the guitar wasn't more distinctively identifiable as Vini. Seems like he compromised his sound for the album. Where are you hearing Vini-esque playing?
― brotherlovesdub, Wednesday, 29 January 2014 19:00 (ten years ago) link