Angel Haze

xp Well for one thing it misses the point of the track. Haze has been open about coming from Michigan and writing it when she'd only just moved to New York so it's knowingly outrageous - you arrive somewhere and you have so much self-belief that you feel like you own it. She's not trying to trick anybody.

― Deafening silence (DL), Friday, January 4, 2013 12:55 PM (4 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

its concern with policing boundaries?

xposts

― TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Friday, January 4, 2013 12:55 PM (4 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

i believe that's what anti-immigrant rhetoric worldwide stems from, yes

xp exactly

― lex pretend, Friday, January 4, 2013 12:55 PM (4 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

putting it on the spectrum of anti-immigrant rhetoric is LOL thats all

people in america generally only care where you were born, not ancestry. if the latter mattered angel haze could pull rank as a native american!

DEFEND 212

would buy that shirt. alternately "keep central park east weird".

has no one here ever claimed their city or commented on fakers claiming their city?

personally i liked:
i mean c'mon that is some backwards type of attidude

in hip-hop, really?

has no one here ever claimed their city or commented on fakers claiming their city?

you mean like when dudes from Houston claim NYC?

http://media.soundonsound.com/sos/jul07/images/DJPremier1_l.jpg

jesus this whole thing is now making me want to delete my month-old Twitter account

maybe I should just stop following Rich FourFour

kick in the door, waivin' the @richjuz

"but perez hilton IS a messy faggot"

-- everyone

YUNG RAPUNXEL ‏@AZEALIABANKS
A faggot is not a homosexual male. A faggot is any male who acts like a female. There's a BIG difference.

oh jesus fucking christ

thanks, eminem

fourfrogbs

honestly I'm much less offended by her original statement than her clarification

yeah why some people were so eager to give her the benefit of the doubt i'm not sure.

alex in montreal otm on twitter

smh these two clowns

oh azealia :////////

putting it on the spectrum of anti-immigrant rhetoric is LOL thats all

i was obviously putting johnny's comment on that spectrum, not azealia's

Rich's reactions the most surprising.

wtf did azealia actually say that

i was obviously putting johnny's comment on that spectrum, not azealia's

Not that either comment was anti-immigrant, but how did mine come across that way when her's did not?

not surprised by his reaction, actually.

kdhjoedhewf

This backfired on both of them. Terrible stuff.

love the judgments from on high about this episode, when did male rappers beefing ever get the "tut-tut, terrible stuff" line

in a month's time no one will remember

Male rappers rarely look good beefing either - unless they can tie it into some sort of big mythology about themselves that they can build on. That certainly didn't happen here.

yeah i mean the Cassidy/Meek Mill thing is stupid as fuck too, it's pretty rare that beef isn't especially these days

i just remembered the common/drake beef over serena williams

i take my post back

though really how can anything actually "backfire" on an artist these days, that's evidence right there - everything carried on as normal for both despite their silliness, as it will here

yeah people will pretend every beef has Ja Rule levels of potential career ruination and it's just delusional, the stakes are never that high.

my fav were the rumors floating around this weekend that interscope had dropped azeala for calling perez a faggot. those labels and their strict morals!

and things move too fast. something else will happen this week. pretty sure angel at least has significantly raised her profile.

pretty sure angel at least has significantly raised her profile.

― lex pretend, Monday, January 7, 2013 9:09 AM (47 seconds ago) Bookmark

lol exactly

Beef really hasn't been the same since 50 Cent failed to take out Rick Ross. That was the Titanic of Rap Beefs.

well... the thing w/ that one is that people at the time saw 50 as being greater than ross even from an objective career perspective but he was really just on his execrable slide down a creative and moral bottomless pit, whereas ross' career was still on the upswing. granted that beef sort of amplified those trends but it was also 50 fucking with someone people cared more about even if a lot of others didn't realize it at the time. could say the same thing in less dramatic terms about his "beef" with kanye, too.

was 50 vs kanye the point where people started automatically thinking "publicity stunt" about beef? like, that was so contrived

tho yknow cf http://favstar.fm/users/roxanne_shante/status/156178152270475264

Of course. But the remarkable thing about the beef with Ross was that it was all about authenticity and myth/persona. 50 tore down Ross' narrative about himself and it still didn't help.

all of 50's beefs circa The Massacre 2 years earlier were widely dismissed as publicity stunts

I mean, 50 Cent actually suffered from his misguided crusades.

nah 50's downfall was proof that people care more about hits than drama, he stopped having hits even when he kept bringing the drama

word

Rap beef is essentially a race to the bottom. You sling as much shit as you can and hope your opponent runs out of ammo/dignity before you do. Either way you generally come out of it covered in shit. Without an album to offset the attention all these petty spats could really come back to haunt Banks.

xpost. True. But 50 Cent had built big parts of his persona around the idea of him being the guy who destroyed other people's careers. When he failed so miserably with Ross and his album underperformed, he found himself with no leg to stand on.

that's a pretty rosy reading of 50's career at that point, longneck

things just ain't the same for gangstas

they wear a lotta spandex

xpost.
Ha, the 2007 album had some minor joints at least. And it did go platinum in the end, right? His era was definitely coming to an end at that point, but the double flop (beef + album) of 09 still felt brutal. At that point there was no coming back.

Before I Self Destruct and Deeper Than Rap sold almost the exact same amount, j0rdan's right that it was more about perception and their trajectories at that time

anyway it's hilarious that major media outlets are reporting on these 2 barely famous chicks as if it were a beef between artists as big as 50 cent and rick ross