i think in most professions and even genres of music being a native new yorker is not that big a deal (like, nobody really gives a fuck where all the "Brooklyn" indie rock bands are originally from). but it's totally different with rappers, there's all the "birthplace of hip hop" stuff and a history of guys accusing each other of being from upstate/Jersey/etc. it's like that in EVERY major city, if two rappers are beefing one will accuse the other from being from the burbs or of not spending any time in the neighborhood they claim.
― some dude, Friday, 4 January 2013 20:02 (thirteen years ago)
"if i'm feeling froggy / i jump 'em like they geronimo." "got that fire flow / my tonsils prolly fuckin crispy."
― s.clover, Friday, 4 January 2013 20:02 (thirteen years ago)
but there was no beef before that post? isn't that what sparked it off?
― TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Friday, 4 January 2013 20:03 (thirteen years ago)
Best I could tell, AZB was just making a tweet about real vs. fake NYers. Angel Haze, chronic narcissist, assumes it was about her and comes back with some really awful things and two dud tracks. No beef before yesterday afaik.
― Johnny Fever, Friday, 4 January 2013 20:06 (thirteen years ago)
why is it that when male MCs go after each other and release dis tracks, they are evaluated on the strength of their attacks, but when female MCs go after each other and release dis tracks, it's a disappointing shame?
― Angel Haze is my hero (DJP), Friday, 4 January 2013 20:09 (thirteen years ago)
or "dumb"
― TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Friday, 4 January 2013 20:10 (thirteen years ago)
"chronic narcissist" ?????
― J0rdan S., Friday, 4 January 2013 20:12 (thirteen years ago)
tbf, I'm not a big proponent of male mc dis tracks either.
― Johnny Fever, Friday, 4 January 2013 20:12 (thirteen years ago)
i think a lot of the weariness here is that pretty much any female rapper with any kind of national buzz in the last couple years has beefed with at least one or two others (or several, in AB's case)
― some dude, Friday, 4 January 2013 20:13 (thirteen years ago)
brainfart...i meant to say "classic narcissist".
― Johnny Fever, Friday, 4 January 2013 20:13 (thirteen years ago)
well it is true that AB is the female 50 Cent
― Angel Haze is my hero (DJP), Friday, 4 January 2013 20:13 (thirteen years ago)
both these chicks need editors
are there disses on this diss track?
― rap steve gadd (D-40), Friday, 4 January 2013 20:14 (thirteen years ago)
dan otm repeatedly
― jazbay crostata (forksclovetofu), Friday, 4 January 2013 20:53 (thirteen years ago)
Young Gypsy @AngelHaze
Lol, so fraudulent. You know what happened between us months ago and if you want to pretend its all just twitter beef, fine.
― Deafening silence (DL), Friday, 4 January 2013 20:59 (thirteen years ago)
They both need to squash this though before it becomes all anyone wants to ask them about.
― Deafening silence (DL), Friday, 4 January 2013 21:00 (thirteen years ago)
gonna refer to online arguing as "bitter tweef" from now on
― jazbay crostata (forksclovetofu), Friday, 4 January 2013 21:04 (thirteen years ago)
yeah, all the important topics usually discussed in their interviews will be lost (xp)
― some dude, Friday, 4 January 2013 21:04 (thirteen years ago)
biter tweef
― pandemic, Friday, 4 January 2013 21:05 (thirteen years ago)
what happened months ago apparently involves a table at the spotted pig, so awesome.
― s.clover, Friday, 4 January 2013 21:05 (thirteen years ago)
xp The experiences AH talked about in Cleaning Out My Closet are kind of important imo
― Deafening silence (DL), Friday, 4 January 2013 21:06 (thirteen years ago)
yeah the spotted pig ref cracked me up
― jazbay crostata (forksclovetofu), Friday, 4 January 2013 21:07 (thirteen years ago)
if that "fake new yorkers" tweet was some kind of general diktat instead of aimed at AH it's even worse!
― TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Friday, 4 January 2013 21:09 (thirteen years ago)
i have never been to the spotted pig but my wife went once. she actually sat right next to jay-z and started talking to him without knowing who he was! if somebody had filmed it and if, er, youtube had existed then she'd have been a viral sensation
― TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Friday, 4 January 2013 21:12 (thirteen years ago)
bitter queef
― hemioblock (The Reverend), Friday, 4 January 2013 21:14 (thirteen years ago)
there it is
― Angel Haze is my hero (DJP), Friday, 4 January 2013 21:15 (thirteen years ago)
We were dancing around it for an hour.
― Johnny Fever, Friday, 4 January 2013 21:16 (thirteen years ago)
eww, that's what i stepped in?
― some dude, Friday, 4 January 2013 21:19 (thirteen years ago)
Dancing around the spotted pig like heathens.
― dyslectic Christ Brown (longneck), Friday, 4 January 2013 21:20 (thirteen years ago)
Le1f ☥ Verified @LE1FNYlemme just say if any of you faggot rappers come for me like girls come for azealia, there will be no diss tracks, just knuckles n shit
― Zero Dark 33⅓: The Final Insult (Eric H.), Friday, 4 January 2013 21:33 (thirteen years ago)
New York girl, ooh, ooh, ooh
Runnin' pretty, New York City girlTwenty-five, thirty-fiveHello, baby, New York City girl
You grew up ridin' the subways, running with peopleUp in Harlem, down on BroadwayYou're no tramp, but you're no lady, talkin' that street talkYou're the heart and soul of New York City
And love, love is just a passing wordIt's the thought that you had in a taxi cab that got left on the curbWhen he dropped you off at East 83rd
Oh, oh, oh [Oh, oh, oh]You're a native New YorkerYou should know the score by now [You should know by now]You're a native New Yorker
Music plays, everyone's dancin' closer and closerMakin' friends and findin' loversThere you are lost in the shadows, searchin' for someone [Searchin' forSomeone]To set you free from New York City
And, whoa, where did all those yesterdays goWhen you still believed love could really be like a Broadway showYou are the star, win the applause
Oh, oh, oh [Oh, oh, oh]You're a native New YorkerNo one opens the doorFor a native New Yorker
[Runnin' pretty, New York City girl]Ooh... ooh... ooh...Native, native, native New Yorker
Where did all those yesterdays goWhen you still believed love could really be like a Broadway showYou are the star
You're a native New YorkerYou should know the score by nowYou're a native New Yorker
You should know the score, you should know the score by nowYou're a native New Yorker, oh, oh, oh[Native, native, native new Yorker]You're a native New Yorker
Whoa, oh, ho, ho, you're a native New YorkerYou should know the score[Native, native, native new Yorker]You're a native New Yorker
What you waitin' for, no one opens the door[You're a native New Yorker]For a native, for a native New Yorker
― xyzzzz__, Friday, 4 January 2013 21:39 (thirteen years ago)
ilxors getting upset abt general regional pride in rap beef b/c its anti-immigrant is the funniest critique of a rapper since whoever that blogger was that said dipset anthem is 'fascist'
― rap steve gadd (D-40), Friday, 4 January 2013 22:04 (thirteen years ago)
lol word
― hemioblock (The Reverend), Friday, 4 January 2013 22:16 (thirteen years ago)
who got upset about that?
― lex pretend, Friday, 4 January 2013 22:34 (thirteen years ago)
well, Tracer did kind of
― Angel Haze is my hero (DJP), Friday, 4 January 2013 22:35 (thirteen years ago)
the only person who mentioned immigrants directly was me, in response to something johnny said, not azealia
this is the exact thing deej complains about people doing to him every day
― lex pretend, Friday, 4 January 2013 22:38 (thirteen years ago)
before this new angel diss track i had definite suspicions about it being a PR stunt but now i'm like "okaaaayyyyy it's really personal *backs away slowly*"
― lex pretend, Friday, 4 January 2013 22:39 (thirteen years ago)
who says it can't be both!
― mahatma lambert (crüt), Friday, 4 January 2013 22:46 (thirteen years ago)
rap is all about merging the personal with the public(ity stunt)
― some dude, Friday, 4 January 2013 23:22 (thirteen years ago)
Yeah that's like Beef 101. Interest generated is proportional to how real it seems.
― something of an astrological coup (tipsy mothra), Friday, 4 January 2013 23:46 (thirteen years ago)
into fisting i guess
― President Keyes, Friday, 4 January 2013 23:47 (thirteen years ago)
xp Well for one thing it misses the point of the track. Haze has been open about coming from Michigan and writing it when she'd only just moved to New York so it's knowingly outrageous - you arrive somewhere and you have so much self-belief that you feel like you own it. She's not trying to trick anybody.
― Deafening silence (DL), Friday, January 4, 2013 12:55 PM (4 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
its concern with policing boundaries?
xposts
― TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Friday, January 4, 2013 12:55 PM (4 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
i believe that's what anti-immigrant rhetoric worldwide stems from, yes
xp exactly
― lex pretend, Friday, January 4, 2013 12:55 PM (4 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
― rap steve gadd (D-40), Friday, 4 January 2013 23:52 (thirteen years ago)
putting it on the spectrum of anti-immigrant rhetoric is LOL thats all
― rap steve gadd (D-40), Friday, 4 January 2013 23:53 (thirteen years ago)
people in america generally only care where you were born, not ancestry. if the latter mattered angel haze could pull rank as a native american!
― some dude, Friday, 4 January 2013 23:59 (thirteen years ago)
DEFEND 212
― TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Saturday, 5 January 2013 00:14 (thirteen years ago)
would buy that shirt. alternately "keep central park east weird".
― s.clover, Saturday, 5 January 2013 00:25 (thirteen years ago)
has no one here ever claimed their city or commented on fakers claiming their city?
personally i liked:i mean c'mon that is some backwards type of attidude
in hip-hop, really?
― fauxmarc, Saturday, 5 January 2013 01:48 (thirteen years ago)
you mean like when dudes from Houston claim NYC?
http://media.soundonsound.com/sos/jul07/images/DJPremier1_l.jpg
― President Keyes, Saturday, 5 January 2013 02:25 (thirteen years ago)
jesus this whole thing is now making me want to delete my month-old Twitter account
maybe I should just stop following Rich FourFour
― Angel Haze is my hero (DJP), Saturday, 5 January 2013 04:50 (thirteen years ago)
kick in the door, waivin' the @richjuz
― some dude, Saturday, 5 January 2013 04:57 (thirteen years ago)
"but perez hilton IS a messy faggot"
-- everyone
― J0rdan S., Saturday, 5 January 2013 05:04 (thirteen years ago)