rolling to the bank like hawhawhaw
― dyslectic Christ Brown (longneck), Thursday, 3 January 2013 13:53 (eleven years ago) link
I am attempting to listen to this album right now on Spotify
I will spare you all the pvmic liveblogging
― GIMME SOME REGGAE (DJP), Thursday, 3 January 2013 18:13 (eleven years ago) link
feel like the odds of dan liking this album are p long
― rap steve gadd (D-40), Thursday, 3 January 2013 18:17 (eleven years ago) link
I am not sure I'm gonna make it past track 4
― GIMME SOME REGGAE (DJP), Thursday, 3 January 2013 18:23 (eleven years ago) link
you must, for our entertainment
― lex pretend, Thursday, 3 January 2013 18:25 (eleven years ago) link
i wanted a track-by-track :(
stuck between following this thread or the Angel Haze-Azealia Banks twitter beatdown #decisions
― the little prince of inane false binary hype (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 3 January 2013 18:25 (eleven years ago) link
I am on track 5
I currently feel like someone has repeatedly been shitting in my ears
hahahaha I was sitting here going "oh he's a little more coherent and less dumb, what's going on WAIT THIS IS 50 CENT"
― GIMME SOME REGGAE (DJP), Thursday, 3 January 2013 18:27 (eleven years ago) link
stealing this from someone else's twitter but 50's verse makes me want a tamale
― rap steve gadd (D-40), Thursday, 3 January 2013 18:28 (eleven years ago) link
did he just say "every day I smell like farts"
― GIMME SOME REGGAE (DJP), Thursday, 3 January 2013 18:30 (eleven years ago) link
(on track 6, not that it really matters because the overall impression given by the production job/sound palette on this album is that every single song is the same)
(except for track 7 which still sounds like an ICP outtake)
― GIMME SOME REGGAE (DJP), Thursday, 3 January 2013 18:33 (eleven years ago) link
btw dan did you know that on wiz khalifa says "i'm the shit, literally" on his album? dumbest rap line i've heard maybe ever
― lex pretend, Thursday, 3 January 2013 18:33 (eleven years ago) link
hahahahahahahaha oh man
― GIMME SOME REGGAE (DJP), Thursday, 3 January 2013 18:34 (eleven years ago) link
― GIMME SOME REGGAE (DJP), Thursday, January 3, 2013 12:33 PM (1 minute ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
so you like a song? better than expected
― rap steve gadd (D-40), Thursday, 3 January 2013 18:35 (eleven years ago) link
oh dear god the context makes it WORSE
xp: lol deej
― GIMME SOME REGGAE (DJP), Thursday, 3 January 2013 18:35 (eleven years ago) link
track 8 should have been a Rihanna cover, just for maximum lols
shit I said I wasn't liveblogging this
― GIMME SOME REGGAE (DJP), Thursday, 3 January 2013 18:36 (eleven years ago) link
okay I'm done
playing Miguel now
― GIMME SOME REGGAE (DJP), Thursday, 3 January 2013 18:38 (eleven years ago) link
fuck I forgot to turn off scrobbling
― GIMME SOME REGGAE (DJP), Thursday, 3 January 2013 18:39 (eleven years ago) link
lol
― rap steve gadd (D-40), Thursday, 3 January 2013 18:42 (eleven years ago) link
― lex pretend, Thursday, January 3, 2013 11:33 AM (25 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
someone was trying to justify that line to me a month ago. there is no justifying that line.
― bish (bosch), don't kill my vibe (rennavate), Thursday, 3 January 2013 19:00 (eleven years ago) link
part of me has been trying to give Wiz Khalifa a pass for a while now but that may be over now
― Angel Haze is my hero (DJP), Thursday, 3 January 2013 19:04 (eleven years ago) link
how do you even start justifying it?!
― lex pretend, Thursday, 3 January 2013 19:05 (eleven years ago) link
I didn't mind "Black and Yellow" and it sort of reminded me of my father-in-law, who is a massive Steelers fan
― Angel Haze is my hero (DJP), Thursday, 3 January 2013 19:05 (eleven years ago) link
no i mean ren's friend
"black & yellow" is great, wiz is...not
― lex pretend, Thursday, 3 January 2013 19:06 (eleven years ago) link
i like "roll up"
― Mordy, Thursday, 3 January 2013 19:09 (eleven years ago) link
i mean i get the wiz dislike but i unabashedly love taylor allderdice
― bish (bosch), don't kill my vibe (rennavate), Thursday, 3 January 2013 19:10 (eleven years ago) link
btw did people get far enough into the Derogatis review to notice that he interprets "I'm laughing at these lames like..." as "I'm laughing at the slave's life..."?
― JoeStork, Thursday, 3 January 2013 19:21 (eleven years ago) link
you've heard a few of his songs, right? is that micro ahead of the beat thing a constant, or is that something applicable here only? i def get the feeling like he's either ahead or behind of the beat pretty regularly, like he's laying in some kind of weird pocket that makes it feel 'off'
― D-40, Wednesday, January 2, 2013 6:55 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
yeah, he's usually not in the pocket in the traditional sense and almost always rushes/falls ahead of the beat. but it's within a certain threshold where you can still call it 'feel' and it sounds cool, or at least creates an effect. the vocal on the big lean track is just on another planet though, rhythmically speaking.
― have a sandwich or ice cream sandwich (Jordan), Thursday, 3 January 2013 19:48 (eleven years ago) link
I wanted to like Wiz Khalifa because I like the name "Wiz Khalifa"
― too many encores (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Friday, 4 January 2013 00:16 (eleven years ago) link
Wiz has a great flow and I like his basic slacker persona. But he has been struggling throughout 2012, partly because the reception of his debut album seems to have confused him and partly because his already narrow range of subject matter has become even narrower after he got a girlfriend. But most of his projects are at least decent.
― dyslectic Christ Brown (longneck), Friday, 4 January 2013 00:21 (eleven years ago) link
imo wiz khalifa needs to write more extensively about marijuana use
― Mordy, Friday, 4 January 2013 00:28 (eleven years ago) link
one of the most interesting flows on finally rich for me is "no tomorrow," where during the verses keef starts his bars before the 1 and finishes before the 2 hits and his next bar before the 3 starts and finishes before the 4 hits... really odd pocket he's in, makes it feel like he can't get his lines out fast enough, there's quite literally "no tomorrow" for him, he's gotta get his raps out asap fuck a beat
out of idle curiosity I decided to listen to this track and I don't hear anything rhythmically interesting or new about this at all; he is completely on the beat the entire time and basically doing a stupid version of something Q-Tip did about 70% of the time, only Tip managed to do so without endlessly rhyming the same word with itself.
― Angel Haze is my hero (DJP), Friday, 4 January 2013 21:04 (eleven years ago) link
otm. also this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ipnTUMv3770
― mahatma lambert (crüt), Friday, 4 January 2013 22:14 (eleven years ago) link
― Angel Haze is my hero (DJP), Friday, January 4, 2013 3:04 PM (1 hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
if only all of keef's fans knew about q-tip, they'd listen to tribe instead
― rap steve gadd (D-40), Friday, 4 January 2013 22:25 (eleven years ago) link
yes, that's the takeaway there
― Angel Haze is my hero (DJP), Friday, 4 January 2013 22:28 (eleven years ago) link
tbf jordan has never heard q-tip
― some dude, Saturday, 5 January 2013 00:02 (eleven years ago) link
get a q-tip. listen to q-tip. these are all valid takeaways
― Binder, Binder & (Sufjan Grafton), Saturday, 5 January 2013 00:08 (eleven years ago) link
― some dude, Friday, January 4, 2013 6:02 PM (16 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
― rap steve gadd (D-40), Saturday, 5 January 2013 00:18 (eleven years ago) link
-_-
― J0rdan S., Saturday, 5 January 2013 01:40 (eleven years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0hhW0OWsGNs
i like this
― bish (bosch), don't kill my vibe (rennavate), Sunday, 6 January 2013 23:51 (eleven years ago) link
nm this is old i'm an idiot
― bish (bosch), don't kill my vibe (rennavate), Monday, 7 January 2013 00:08 (eleven years ago) link
It's a trendlet or something
http://www.tnr.com/article/111702/chief-keef-finally-rich-review-debate-race-critics
― Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 8 January 2013 05:19 (eleven years ago) link
damn had no idea about the "stop writing about MY culture" tirade. Handled well though, IMO.
― NINO CARTER, Tuesday, 8 January 2013 05:38 (eleven years ago) link
you've gotta be fucking shitting me... the new republic??
― J0rdan S., Tuesday, 8 January 2013 05:49 (eleven years ago) link
Yup!
― Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 8 January 2013 05:54 (eleven years ago) link
nm that's a p good piece
― J0rdan S., Tuesday, 8 January 2013 06:01 (eleven years ago) link
never forget that b dot posted this: http://rapradar.com/2013/01/07/12-underrated-albums-1-macklemore-ryan-lewis-the-heist/
― one bish two bish red bish blue bish (fadanuf4erybody), Tuesday, 8 January 2013 07:42 (eleven years ago) link
This idea that "white people love chief keef because he is the Chief of Nothing and only poses a threat to other blacks in down-trodden neighborhoods" is so weird to me. Most white critics LOVED Public Enemy and the political rap of the late eightie/early nineties, partly because it was easy to legitimize as important music. And the idea that we are merely into aesthetics is wrong too I think. We do tend to get a kick out of whatever we can classify as "authentic" though - and I think that line of thought is discernible in both Deej's and J0rdan's approaches: Chief Keef can be legitimized because he is NOT a blog darling but a product of the streets of Chicago and so forth. Also, he's so young! Such perceived authenticity tends to fire up our aesthetic imagination, for better or worse.
― dyslectic Christ Brown (longneck), Tuesday, 8 January 2013 09:05 (eleven years ago) link
the thing about being a white guy who listens to hip hop, which i generally don't complain about because it's obviously nothing compared to how actual minorities are treated within actual power structures of society, is that there's no right way to do it -- literally any position or taste you have can pretty easily be interpreted as, if not racist, than privileged, outsider, etc. if you like no rap, you don't like black people; if you mainly like conscious/political rap, you're out of touch with what real rap fans are listening to; if you mainly like gangsta rap, you're a voyeur celebrating violence and poverty; if you like all rap, you're just obsessed with blackness in a creepy way; and so on and so on. as a critic, you at least have the option of trying to explain why you like music and why you think it's good, but of course you have to be aware of how what you say can be used against you in these kinds of accusations.
― thomp ynchon (some dude), Tuesday, 8 January 2013 12:50 (eleven years ago) link
This idea that "white people love chief keef because he is the Chief of Nothing and only poses a threat to other blacks in down-trodden neighborhoods" is so weird to me. Most white critics LOVED Public Enemy and the political rap of the late eightie/early nineties, partly because it was easy to legitimize as important music.
that was 20+ years ago and a lot has gone on in criticism since then. I think it's fair and true to say that white rap critics get excited about depictions of violence in black communities that generally won't affect them, that isn't a description of their life experience in any way - that tnr piece points out that this isn't a new phenomenon in white people engaging black art, rap is just the current space in which this dynamic is taking place.
― too many encores (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Tuesday, 8 January 2013 13:07 (eleven years ago) link