i think it's cyberpunk adorno music
― Mordy, Wednesday, 26 December 2012 03:21 (eleven years ago) link
how could we rebrand vatican shadow
― things that are jokes pretty much (Nilmar Honorato da Silva), Wednesday, 26 December 2012 03:23 (eleven years ago) link
there are about a trillion releases so if one were so inclined to carefully repackage one of them and send press releases etc, how could it be presented
― things that are jokes pretty much (Nilmar Honorato da Silva), Wednesday, 26 December 2012 03:25 (eleven years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zH9-d2YQqHU
― Mordy, Wednesday, 26 December 2012 03:25 (eleven years ago) link
an NRO contributor greatly concerned w/rise of Islamism plays techno
― Mordy, Wednesday, 26 December 2012 03:28 (eleven years ago) link
like even though it only sounds like burial to drunk people, what if we use the burial concept but alter the signifiers from grotty suburban london to some industrial city in china, press releases would focus heavily on the anomie of living in a smog cloaked exurban wasteland
all of the lp covers would be photos of shopping trolleys in canals, track names would be broken english with random chinese characters, it would be the work of a producer born in harbin in 1983 who spent a year studying industrial design in kiev and is now living a shadowy existence hiding from the CCP, emailing flacs surreptitiously from internet cafes
― things that are jokes pretty much (Nilmar Honorato da Silva), Wednesday, 26 December 2012 03:33 (eleven years ago) link
If he wants to rebrand he has to change names. Vatican Shadow is DF's war-themed bedroom techno project, just like Exploring Jezebel is his femdom/male-humiliation fetish-themed noise project and Christian Cosmos is his Christian-themed ambient-industrial project.
― crüt, Wednesday, 26 December 2012 03:37 (eleven years ago) link
Is that Exploring Jezebel thing any good? It looks like every track is 45 minutes (!)
― mh, Wednesday, 26 December 2012 03:46 (eleven years ago) link
I haven't heard that one. 8 x C90 sounds like a great way to release music! Also, lol @ each side being called a "Dildo": http://www.discogs.com/Exploring-Jezebel-Penis-Torture-Chamber/release/2384418
― crüt, Wednesday, 26 December 2012 03:49 (eleven years ago) link
It's on digital release, too, looks like.
― mh, Wednesday, 26 December 2012 03:51 (eleven years ago) link
is there any ilm thread about the arbitrariness of paratext in electronic music
like what if drexciya instead of black science fiction had been about a counterfactual reality where the british empire never finished
― things that are jokes pretty much (Nilmar Honorato da Silva), Wednesday, 26 December 2012 04:02 (eleven years ago) link
roman empire never ended iirc
― mh, Wednesday, 26 December 2012 04:12 (eleven years ago) link
what else sounds like vatican shadow
Vatican Shadow I've heard was pretty close to Sandwell District and their off-shoots (go and listen to the Silent Servant album if you haven't heard that yet). Also maybe Morphosis too.
― Albert Crampus (NickB), Wednesday, 26 December 2012 10:57 (eleven years ago) link
it sounds like early 80's SPK
― sisilafami, Wednesday, 26 December 2012 11:30 (eleven years ago) link
Fernow put out Silent Servant's album this year (Hospital Productions is his label). It's a bit like VS but better and without the war on terror titles
He's also in a black metal band, which I'm guessing won't come as a massive shock to anyone - http://www.last.fm/music/Ash+Pool
― paolo, Wednesday, 26 December 2012 12:01 (eleven years ago) link
Also merry christmas everybody
i have the silent servant album which is my kinda thing, but apart from one or two tracks it hasn't quite clicked (yet, maybe)
― things that are jokes pretty much (Nilmar Honorato da Silva), Wednesday, 26 December 2012 15:02 (eleven years ago) link
the christian cosmos youtube crut posted is great
― flopson, Wednesday, 26 December 2012 19:55 (eleven years ago) link
thanks to whoever mentioned morphosis and reminded me to listen to that album
― mh, Wednesday, 26 December 2012 22:29 (eleven years ago) link
andy stott and actress are much better ref pts than burial imo
― tell the kids it's 卵 (clouds), Thursday, 27 December 2012 03:24 (eleven years ago) link
Andy Stott definitely, Actress doesn't have quite the right kind of echoey dank sonic murk going on (it's about tone, not beats or whether one is dubstep or industrial or techno). But Andy Stott's titles are pretty innocuous so he doesn't fit the point I was making like Burial does - as far as I know there's no discourse or mythology around Andy Stott that stems almost entirely from track titles. People hear associations in the music because the producer has led them there largely through extra-musical means (although the music is certainly sombre enough to fit). As far as I know VS isn't actually sampling music from war zones, although I'd guess he uses some heavy imagery in the live show.
― Matt DC, Thursday, 27 December 2012 12:30 (eleven years ago) link
Other stuff from this year that you could probably link somehow to VatShad:
Cut Hands - power electronics mainstay goes techno while roping in themes of fear, violence and imperialism from other people's woeful historiesShackleton - labyrinthine Fourth World post-dubsteppe haunted with the ghosts of lost tribes, murdered monks and dead intelligence operativesShifted - interminable grey slog across a shell-pocked landscape all to the deadened thump of a post-Gas kick drum as heard from the shitty confines of a cold, dark car bootShed - combat zone techno with big blocks of sound rumbling into position on the backs of scud transporters under sporadic but futile small arms fire from renegade snaresRaime - bleak but pouty post-goth electro played at doom metal slug speed, something tells me these guys tuck their jeans into their lace-up boots, but probably more out of sartorial pride rather than agricultural necessity
― Albert Crampus (NickB), Thursday, 27 December 2012 12:42 (eleven years ago) link
darkwave darkwave darkwave, i feel like i've come over all martian
― Albert Crampus (NickB), Thursday, 27 December 2012 12:43 (eleven years ago) link
There's a Prurient album coming out on BEB next year, and the last track was on some BEB radio show recently (it's on Doufcloud somewhere) - I only listened once a few weeks ago, but it sounded pretty awesome - going further in a techno direction, I guess.
― toby, Thursday, 27 December 2012 14:19 (eleven years ago) link
Greedily checking out anything I haven't heard of on this thread in the hope of finding something I love as much as the Silent Servant album (the VatShad is p. good too, since I'm on his thread)
― a panda, Malmö (a passing spacecadet), Thursday, 27 December 2012 19:01 (eleven years ago) link
No one's mentioned Rainforest Spiritual Enslavement yet (at least according to a quick check a moment ago), and they deserve to be mentioned, esp. since it's on Hospital Productions, is already another really prolific project, and is most likely D. Fernow yet again (either solo or maybe with Kris Lapke as on the Christian Cosmos material).
Ltd. cassette releases from the last year or maybe two have been made digitally available throughout 2012, to the extent that this catalog of downloads collectively made #9 on Boomkat's staff year-end list:
http://boomkat.com/search?q=Artist%3A%20RAINFOREST%20SPIRITUAL%20ENSLAVEMENT&fields[]=artist,track_artists
(Everything I've heard has at least been very good IMO, but FWIW, I'd recommend checking out either "Fallen Leaves Camouflaged Behind Tropical Flowers" or "Papua Land Where Spirits Still Rule" to start)
― BISH HOOS aka the teendrimer (Craig D.), Friday, 28 December 2012 01:34 (eleven years ago) link
(In other words: Antipodean death-ambient eco-justice OSTs FTW?)
― BISH HOOS aka the teendrimer (Craig D.), Friday, 28 December 2012 01:46 (eleven years ago) link
if you're looking for some dark industrial techno, this is outstanding : http://opaltapes.bandcamp.com/album/basic-house-im-not-a-heaven-man
this year's best stuff best stuff in the genre with carter tutti void & silent servent.
― sisilafami, Friday, 28 December 2012 16:45 (eleven years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Keap3YKrcAk
this is more like it
― things that are jokes pretty much (Nilmar Honorato da Silva), Friday, 28 December 2012 19:38 (eleven years ago) link
"interminable grey slog"
lol
― flopson, Friday, 28 December 2012 19:57 (eleven years ago) link
dl'd immediately from the descrip tbh
― nevaeh for evaeh (clouds), Friday, 28 December 2012 20:06 (eleven years ago) link
Prurient track I mentioned upthread is at 1hr 39m here:
http://soundcloud.com/n_u_t_s/2012-11-02-14-00-00-open-deck
― toby, Wednesday, 2 January 2013 08:59 (eleven years ago) link
feel like vatican shadow ppl would also like fatima al qadiri's GSX
― 乒乓, Wednesday, 2 January 2013 18:07 (eleven years ago) link
Prurient album now streaming here:
http://pitchfork.com/advance/31-through-the-window/
Really can't get enough of this, esp. the title track (the one I linked above).
― toby, Tuesday, 19 February 2013 08:11 (eleven years ago) link
this is really great, title track is amazing. first prurient album i've heard - much more technoey than i was expecting
― lex pretend, Thursday, 28 February 2013 10:14 (eleven years ago) link
technoey deschanel
― Mark G, Thursday, 28 February 2013 11:45 (eleven years ago) link
it almost makes me want to check out the other prurient albums, but I suspect they don't sound much like this?
― toby, Thursday, 28 February 2013 18:59 (eleven years ago) link
most of them don't. it really depends, but most of them tend towards the harsh noise end of the spectrum.
― :C (crüt), Thursday, 28 February 2013 19:00 (eleven years ago) link
bermuda drain has some similar moments, but a lot more yelling over the top
― ☠ ☃ ☠ (mh), Thursday, 28 February 2013 19:01 (eleven years ago) link
this is the sort of thing I think of when I think of Prurient: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F-kIMhSD5r8
― :C (crüt), Thursday, 28 February 2013 19:04 (eleven years ago) link
Seriously this is the best Prurient album since '08 or '09, before he went off the deep end
I ordered this from Barnes and Noble, was totally expensive but I think it'll be worth it
― Raymond Cummings, Friday, 1 March 2013 04:59 (eleven years ago) link
Tiger Smells A Corpse is incredible
― C: (crüt), Friday, 8 March 2013 18:17 (eleven years ago) link
is there something up w/the spotify versh
― слабоумие и отвага (cozen), Friday, 8 March 2013 18:42 (eleven years ago) link
this is how i remember prurient back in the day: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CLlSnjs-rl0
― Ward Fowler, Friday, 8 March 2013 22:05 (eleven years ago) link
I really like the minimal synths he does on Bermuda Drain. I can just about put up with the screaming. On the Palm Tree Corpse tune it's fucking incredibly awesome.
― kraudive, Saturday, 9 March 2013 01:01 (eleven years ago) link
so many future vatican shadow track titles floating around right now
― max, Tuesday, 23 April 2013 15:32 (eleven years ago) link
i cant read an article about the boston bombers without picking out phrases for vs tapes
chechnya's ghosts loom large in death of former santa
― lex pretend, Tuesday, 25 December 2012 08:07 (3 months ago)
― Toxicara Delevingne (Nilmar Honorato da Silva), Tuesday, 23 April 2013 16:17 (eleven years ago) link
i checked out the new prurient project but it just wasn't as enjoyable as vs
― Mordy, Tuesday, 23 April 2013 22:39 (eleven years ago) link
can't get into prurient
― love's secret borad (clouds), Tuesday, 23 April 2013 23:51 (eleven years ago) link
New one features a track titled 'The Other Blackbirds Required Shipping to Their Final Resting Places Which Necessitated Their Wings Being Sawed Off by Worldwide Aircraft Recovery'.
― pomenitul, Saturday, 6 March 2021 20:39 (three years ago) link
Pretty good article going deep on Fernow's connections to the far-right:
https://jeanhugueskabuiku.substack.com/p/about-vatican-shadow-link-with-the
Didn't expect the side swipes at St0suy. They were fair, from the context of the article, but I thought everyone loved that guy. Anyway, saw St0suy posted something on his Twitter about it this morning, but I haven't had a chance to read that yet.
― a superficial sheeb of intelligence (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Monday, 12 July 2021 14:14 (two years ago) link
It is worth reading:
A piece on Dominick Fernow and his links to artists with right wing ideologies was published Friday. I spent the weekend thinking of my laziness and complacency re: these connections and wanted to post the below. It's from a letter I wrote to the piece's author, @amazinggaijin pic.twitter.com/CfyiNYMTfP— brandonstosuy (@brandonstosuy) July 12, 2021
― Ned Raggett, Monday, 12 July 2021 15:13 (two years ago) link
Disappointing, but not all that surprising. Every time someone who produces negative art that I connect with turns out to be a creep, I wonder what about it hooked me in the first place. It's a concern. I guess it's a thing where we're both angry about things - just turns out they were coming at that shit from the opposite side of the spectrum. I loved DSO before I found out about that dude, too.
― beard papa, Monday, 12 July 2021 18:56 (two years ago) link