TOPICS: CHICAGO, CHIEF KEEF, RAP, DRILL RAP, HIP-HOP, GUNS, GANGS, GANG VIOLENCE, EDITOR'S PICKS, ENTERTAINMENT NEWS, NEWS
― epic album: the pluto (Whiney G. Weingarten), Thursday, 20 December 2012 04:22 (thirteen years ago)
no NEWTOWN or SANDY HOOK tho weirdly enough
― salute me or crut me (J0rdan S.), Thursday, 20 December 2012 04:23 (thirteen years ago)
most of whom were subsequently hyped through photo spreads and features on a handful of online sites: the Fader, Fake Shore Drive, Stereogum and Pitchfork.
― epic album: the pluto (Whiney G. Weingarten), Thursday, 20 December 2012 04:24 (thirteen years ago)
THIS IS THE SAME FUCKING GUY THAT WROTE THE TAYLOR SWIFT STORY
oh god i knew the name sounded familiar but i could not remember why
― salute me or crut me (J0rdan S.), Thursday, 20 December 2012 04:25 (thirteen years ago)
glad he's taken that leap from sexism to racism in just five weeks
― epic album: the pluto (Whiney G. Weingarten), Thursday, 20 December 2012 04:26 (thirteen years ago)
actually, to be fair to dude, his editor write that subhead and there's nothing in the story about it
― epic album: the pluto (Whiney G. Weingarten), Thursday, 20 December 2012 04:27 (thirteen years ago)
so i take the racism thing back
― epic album: the pluto (Whiney G. Weingarten), Thursday, 20 December 2012 04:28 (thirteen years ago)
T.I. also has a huge gun on his album cover.
― dyslectic Christ Brown (longneck), Thursday, 20 December 2012 08:26 (thirteen years ago)
you killed that finally famous review, j0rd
― bish (bosch), don't kill my vibe (rennavate), Thursday, 20 December 2012 17:02 (thirteen years ago)
link? please?
― pandemic, Thursday, 20 December 2012 17:03 (thirteen years ago)
ah, spin, got it.here
― pandemic, Thursday, 20 December 2012 17:05 (thirteen years ago)
straight to the "he's like waka" well eh
― 2 Celloz (some dude), Thursday, 20 December 2012 17:14 (thirteen years ago)
can't wait for deej to go line by line responding to it like the oatmeal guy
― finally rich, fun-packed, fulfilling (Whiney G. Weingarten), Thursday, 20 December 2012 17:17 (thirteen years ago)
If I didn't know better I'd have taken ""Hate Bein' Sober," the upcoming mega-single" as a shout-out to some dude.
― pandemic, Thursday, 20 December 2012 17:18 (thirteen years ago)
"hate bein' sober" is meant to be on the level of "stuntin' like my daddy" and "in da club"? LOL
― lex pretend, Thursday, 20 December 2012 17:19 (thirteen years ago)
lol pandemic
― 2 Celloz (some dude), Thursday, 20 December 2012 17:19 (thirteen years ago)
the positive reviews of this are almost as much of an "i hear what i want to hear" rorschach test as the pans
― 2 Celloz (some dude), Thursday, 20 December 2012 17:20 (thirteen years ago)
yes i will admit "upcoming mega-single" is a bit wishful thinking
― bish (bosch), don't kill my vibe (rennavate), Thursday, 20 December 2012 18:00 (thirteen years ago)
― lex pretend, Thursday, December 20, 2012 12:19 PM (1 hour ago) Bookmark
get ya mind correct
― salute me or crut me (J0rdan S.), Thursday, 20 December 2012 19:12 (thirteen years ago)
feel like you and i have very different definitions of "pop rap" when you talk about this album
― 2 Celloz (some dude), Thursday, 20 December 2012 19:17 (thirteen years ago)
"you know, pop rap! MC Hammer, The Black Eyed Peas, Crime Mob"
― 2 Celloz (some dude), Thursday, 20 December 2012 19:23 (thirteen years ago)
even "in da club" style pop rap!
― lex pretend, Thursday, 20 December 2012 19:24 (thirteen years ago)
― 2 Celloz (some dude), Thursday, December 20, 2012 2:23 PM (1 minute ago) Bookmark
well i think that's a very narrow definition (i would call black eyed peas "pop") & finally rich is waayyy more pop than crime mob. i didn't call 'back from the dead' pop when i first reviewed it cuz it's not... this album is diff tho
― salute me or crut me (J0rdan S.), Thursday, 20 December 2012 19:26 (thirteen years ago)
how is any song on this record more pop than "knuck if you buck" aside from featuring actual pop rappers like wiz khalifa and 50 cent
― 2 Celloz (some dude), Thursday, 20 December 2012 19:36 (thirteen years ago)
i was only really lukewarm to 'lollipop' when it came out then over the next few years it got promoted to personal jam status and now it seems like a landmark record rilly. dope review j0rdz. this record is dripping in pop, why fight it. 'kay kay' is my fucking shit.
― tpp, Thursday, 20 December 2012 19:49 (thirteen years ago)
yeah great review
― flopson, Thursday, 20 December 2012 21:30 (thirteen years ago)
when i saw this didn;t have a D4VID DR4K3 byline
http://www.complex.com/music/2012/12/the-10-worst-things-written-about-chief-keef-this-week
i was like
http://0-media-cdn.foolz.us/ffuuka/board/sp/image/1342/40/1342409378152.gif
― finally rich, fun-packed, fulfilling (Whiney G. Weingarten), Thursday, 20 December 2012 22:28 (thirteen years ago)
peep the comments though:
Drake December 20th, 2012 at 04:14 PM
I agree with half this shit, but Chief Keef is bad. it's that simple. good for him becoming rich. no problem with that. but to keep claiming all of these critics are racist is your lousy back up. They aren't racist. Chief Keef is not innovative, and apparently not very intelligent. He networked and got a good promotions team. Saying he's great is like saying every modern hip hop collective (A$AP, OF, etc..) are good. Just because there is a team that knows how to manipulate its audience doesn't mean the artist is talented.
― HAPPY BDAY TOOTS (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Thursday, 20 December 2012 22:40 (thirteen years ago)
good for him becoming rich. but what took him so long?
― k3vin k., Thursday, 20 December 2012 22:42 (thirteen years ago)
lol
― 2 Celloz (some dude), Thursday, 20 December 2012 23:39 (thirteen years ago)
the positive reviews of this are...an "i hear what i want to hear" rorschach test
in fairness this is so generally true of pop crit right now across all genres big & small that it's kind of interesting how this album seems to be coming under special scrutiny about it
― too many encores (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Friday, 21 December 2012 12:34 (thirteen years ago)
yeah, the more there's a cultural narrative around an album and the higher the "stakes" feel to people, the easier it is to focus on anything but what it actually sounds like
― 2 Celloz (some dude), Friday, 21 December 2012 12:44 (thirteen years ago)
which artists tend also to play to their advantage imo
― too many encores (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Friday, 21 December 2012 18:14 (thirteen years ago)
easier still to imagine a great self-deception in people liking something you refuse or are unable to engage with
― r|t|c, Friday, 21 December 2012 18:28 (thirteen years ago)
"Love Sosa" entered the Hot 100 this week.
― Rolling "2 chainz" draadje (The Reverend), Friday, 21 December 2012 18:57 (thirteen years ago)
i don't think people who love this record are lying to themselves, i just think they have a high tolerance for monotone offbeat rapping
― nobody's bitch speaks again (some dude), Friday, 21 December 2012 21:38 (thirteen years ago)
aero otm
― If I was a carpenter, and you were a douchebag (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 21 December 2012 21:48 (thirteen years ago)
i wouldn't say monotone, what stands out to me is that half the time keef is most of the way to singing, but it's always the same three note melody.
― have a sandwich or ice cream sandwich (Jordan), Friday, 21 December 2012 21:50 (thirteen years ago)
add this guy to my kinda-long list of Guys Whose Music Is Interesting To Talk About But To Me Not Very Interesting To Hear, a list about which I have conflicting emotions
― too many encores (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Saturday, 22 December 2012 00:50 (thirteen years ago)
fwiw re: sh1pl3y's complaints i actually think he has a pretty masterful sense of rhythm cf 1:45
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ys4hIkqPteY&feature=youtu.be
― D-40, Monday, 31 December 2012 11:39 (thirteen years ago)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ys4hIkqPteY
― D-40, Monday, 31 December 2012 11:40 (thirteen years ago)
how you hear that as a masterful sense of rhythm is completely beyond me musically. it sounds like he did that a capella and then it was later cut in as near the beat as was possible. like I would be genuinely interested, if you're up for it, how that's masterful - there's a long and great tradition in say toasting of throwing in triplets, runs of 16th-notes/syllables, etc, over a straight 4/4, so the voice is essentially serving as both percussion and vocal and it sounds like maybe that's what he's trying to do? but he doesn't pull it off at all imo. like when he says "sad stories like soapbox/you ain't no gangster Tupac" - it's like he's just not listening very hard for how those would fall in with the beat. however props to him for the Xiu Xiu reference in the next line
― too many encores (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Monday, 31 December 2012 13:30 (thirteen years ago)
yeah that youtube as a rebuttal is hilarious
― some dude, Monday, 31 December 2012 13:37 (thirteen years ago)
I was really looking forward to some crazed irregular-rhythm tuplets like you get in harp and piano music so actually getting "I'm a 32-note late on every entrance like a hesitant singer who isn't sure where the beat or the note is" was kind of a letdown
― GIMME SOME REGGAE (DJP), Monday, 31 December 2012 14:26 (thirteen years ago)
i don't have a great handle on pitch or theory so when you talk about a lot of vocal stuff i take your word for it, but it genuinely surprises me when anybody with ears can't seem to get a handle on how rhythm works and whether a performance is on or off the beat
― some dude, Monday, 31 December 2012 15:08 (thirteen years ago)
kind of get the impression that keef does that deliberately, or at least whether he's *able* to rap on beat or not, his general strategy for approaching it is deliberate and in keeping w/the rest of his persona
― lex pretend, Monday, 31 December 2012 15:10 (thirteen years ago)
i think it's part of his persona to not both doing a 2nd take, but i don't know if he realizes or cares what his performance might gain if he took another pass with the beat turned up louder in his headphones
― some dude, Monday, 31 December 2012 15:12 (thirteen years ago)
not caring is part of his persona too i guess
― lex pretend, Monday, 31 December 2012 15:14 (thirteen years ago)
persona doing some heavy lifting itt
― i know your nuts hurt! who's laughing? (contenderizer), Monday, 31 December 2012 17:11 (thirteen years ago)