Scott Walker "Bish Bosch"

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There is a pretty good interview with SW and Peter Walsh, his longtime producer in this month's Sound on Sound magazine.

MaresNest, Wednesday, 19 December 2012 22:13 (thirteen years ago)

Oh, "Dimple" is terrific. That's my take-away classic from this so far, a la "Jesse" and "Farmer in the City". (I haven't got to the last two tracks yet).

Michael Jones, Thursday, 20 December 2012 09:22 (thirteen years ago)

vinyl sounds amazing! they did an amazing job. you could definitely use it as some demented reference record for fancy speakers. the tones are all over the place so it would work well. just a great transfer however they did it. very little surface noise. which obviously means a lot if you have fancy speakers. my ancient - not so fancy but nice - speakers like this record a lot.

scott seward, Monday, 31 December 2012 01:39 (thirteen years ago)

I listened to SDSS1416+13B (Zercon, A Flagpole Sitter) the other day while reading the lyrics. I couldn't sleep afterwards. This album, it is unlike other things.

silverfish, Monday, 31 December 2012 09:34 (thirteen years ago)

Having attempted to listen to this in a darkened room in full on vinyl last night, I've come to the conclusion that it's pretty much impossible to listen to this album all the way through, even if you love Walker's steez. By the end of the third side my mate and I had both agreed that we'd started tuning out and that it just sounded like a TV had been switched on in the room. This isn't really a bad thing. I think the value of these tracks work best when heard apart; maybe on headphones rather than in a room with other people.

besides Sunny Real Estate (dog latin), Thursday, 3 January 2013 15:16 (thirteen years ago)

I've found that, in general, it is a bad idea to listen to Scott Walker in a room with other people.

xanthanguar (cwkiii), Thursday, 3 January 2013 15:45 (thirteen years ago)

even if everyone's a fan, it doesn't work. you just end up feeling weird and laughing nervously to yourselves/each other.

besides Sunny Real Estate (dog latin), Thursday, 3 January 2013 16:21 (thirteen years ago)

I approach almost any album that fills an entire CD as Side A and Side B. Or if there are dud tracks I delete them forever (that doesn't work for Bish Bosch, though).

Here's a suggestion:

Bisch Bosch playlist one: everything except 'Zercon'
BB playlist two: 'Zercon' by itself

~farben~ (Jon Lewis), Thursday, 3 January 2013 16:22 (thirteen years ago)

This album is definitely something you listen to alone. Preferably somewhere dark and cold.

silverfish, Thursday, 3 January 2013 16:23 (thirteen years ago)

I really like this record, but really, do you really need much more from it other than Epizootics! and Zercon? The rest just feels like sponge cake to those tracks' jam and icing so far (note I've only had this since Christmas).

besides Sunny Real Estate (dog latin), Thursday, 3 January 2013 16:33 (thirteen years ago)

ah xposts to Jon Lewis - this could be the best strategy. Luckily Zercon takes up a whole side. It's the one I seem to go back to the most, admittedly.

besides Sunny Real Estate (dog latin), Thursday, 3 January 2013 16:34 (thirteen years ago)

epizootics! and zercon are the ones that make the most immediate impact, but there are a lot of other tracks that are worth paying close attention to. Dimple has been a favorite lately.

silverfish, Thursday, 3 January 2013 16:43 (thirteen years ago)

The closing track is definitely a highlight, blew me away right off the bat.

~farben~ (Jon Lewis), Thursday, 3 January 2013 16:44 (thirteen years ago)

I've been meaning to compile "The Drift" and "Bish Bosch" to add to my digital Scott box. For one thing, I can do without the sphincter symphony...

Gerald McBoing-Boing, Thursday, 3 January 2013 19:12 (thirteen years ago)

this album freaked out my dog. i thought she was gonna bite my speaker.

scott seward, Thursday, 3 January 2013 19:29 (thirteen years ago)

Guys what is this sphincter symphony i keep hearing about? It sounds amazing! Is it a fart sound collage or something?

Emperor Cos Dashit (Adam Bruneau), Thursday, 3 January 2013 19:52 (thirteen years ago)

'Corps de Blah'. You'll know it when you hear it.

~farben~ (Jon Lewis), Thursday, 3 January 2013 19:57 (thirteen years ago)

FWIW I think it's awesome.

~farben~ (Jon Lewis), Thursday, 3 January 2013 19:57 (thirteen years ago)

oh shit this is wonderful

Emperor Cos Dashit (Adam Bruneau), Thursday, 3 January 2013 20:04 (thirteen years ago)

it took me three listens to recognize the farts in corps de blah

sisilafami, Thursday, 3 January 2013 23:06 (thirteen years ago)

As in... ID them?

I need some comfort in my commute, so I keep going back to Dimple.

Michael Jones, Thursday, 3 January 2013 23:11 (thirteen years ago)

yes

sisilafami, Friday, 4 January 2013 00:48 (thirteen years ago)

Finally gave this a full listen. It's as good as The Drift and Tilt. Different than either, etc.

What I didn't expect was, despite the singing, lyrics, and arrangements how LIGHT this was in comparison. It felt like half an hour total listening to it. Also, despite the long songs, Bish Bosch sounds all like one multi-part piece, except probably the final track, which sounds like a coda.

Bish Bosch should be the first Scott Walker experience for fucked up teenagers, then working backward from there.

ma ck ro ma ck ro (mackro mackro), Saturday, 5 January 2013 07:55 (thirteen years ago)

I don't know, I don't dislike this album or "The Drift" or "Tilt" but I don't get very much out of them... so, I suppose, I'm not a Scott Walker fan anymore?

Tom D is secretly an important person (Tom D.), Saturday, 5 January 2013 13:05 (thirteen years ago)

i first listened to this record in a room full of people, albeit it was a hotel lobby done up to seem haunted

emo canon in twee major (BradNelson), Saturday, 5 January 2013 21:31 (thirteen years ago)

what a fantastic album. Would enthusiastically await a cd full of tracks like Conducator.

Three Word Username, Sunday, 6 January 2013 17:54 (thirteen years ago)

Sun City Girls : Horse Cock Phepner :: Scott Walker : Bish Bosch

ma ck ro ma ck ro (mackro mackro), Sunday, 6 January 2013 20:00 (thirteen years ago)

The only SCG album I don't have :(

~farben~ (Jon Lewis), Monday, 7 January 2013 17:32 (thirteen years ago)

The only rare one I DO have.

dan selzer, Monday, 7 January 2013 17:49 (thirteen years ago)

lest anyone think my apt is worth breaking into, a lot of them i only 'have' as mp3. But Horse Cock never turned up on P2P like the others.

~farben~ (Jon Lewis), Monday, 7 January 2013 17:51 (thirteen years ago)

I could hook a brother up

CGI fridays (Edward III), Monday, 7 January 2013 17:53 (thirteen years ago)

get at me

~farben~ (Jon Lewis), Monday, 7 January 2013 18:05 (thirteen years ago)

done

not their best album but def the most entertaining one

CGI fridays (Edward III), Monday, 7 January 2013 18:15 (thirteen years ago)

I expect it to remind me of Piano Bar in that respect

~farben~ (Jon Lewis), Monday, 7 January 2013 18:17 (thirteen years ago)

THANKING U

~farben~ (Jon Lewis), Monday, 7 January 2013 18:21 (thirteen years ago)

np

CGI fridays (Edward III), Monday, 7 January 2013 18:26 (thirteen years ago)

Scott Walker 70th birthday special

Designated Striver (Tom D.), Sunday, 13 January 2013 13:05 (thirteen years ago)

Scott Walker 70th birthday specialīˆ‘

besides Sunny Real Estate (dog latin), Sunday, 13 January 2013 19:19 (thirteen years ago)

Woops, sorry my iPhone did that by accidump

besides Sunny Real Estate (dog latin), Sunday, 13 January 2013 19:20 (thirteen years ago)

A broadcast on what might have strayed Scott from the path. I don't see Ligeti as a component of what Scott is thinking on orchestration at all -- the movement from the Chamber Concerto is very fast, with agile (the mechanised thing maybe) interruptions and not at all on a 'nightmarish' kick. There is a myth that this music is a horror show soundtrack and its completely untrue.

Then when you get to the Greenwood - vacuous writing purely cast as a 'soundtrack to Hitchcock'. Cynical writing.

Loved it for the Galas - I need to see her in concert one day.

xyzzzz__, Monday, 14 January 2013 00:03 (thirteen years ago)

I know when he was describing what he wanted to Evan Parker for that amazing track on Climate of Hunter he referenced Ligeti.

the dyspeptic Hirax (Jon Lewis), Monday, 14 January 2013 00:14 (thirteen years ago)

Sure, and in the broadcast the presenters talk about how Scott mentions Ligeti. I can't hear it apart from 'dense' sounding strings but a few composers wrote that kind of thing.

xyzzzz__, Monday, 14 January 2013 09:15 (thirteen years ago)

I'll give The Drift a go again, haven't heard Bisch Bosch.

xyzzzz__, Monday, 14 January 2013 09:16 (thirteen years ago)

Evan Parker talks a bit about his work on Climate of Hunter in this interview:

http://www.efi.group.shef.ac.uk/fulltext/mparkint.html

my father will guide me up the stairs to bed (anagram), Monday, 14 January 2013 09:58 (thirteen years ago)

I've had to give Bish Bosch a bit of a rest. I listened to it non-stop over Christmas week but I think, like The Drift, it's not an album that's supposed to be listened to every day.

I did put Epizootics! on a mixtape for a car journey at the weekend, and watching the country road unwind into darkening mist was just incredible.

besides Sunny Real Estate (dog latin), Monday, 14 January 2013 10:16 (thirteen years ago)

I do think The Drift is ahead/better than BischBosch, mainly probably because it came before it, but BB seems like "more of the same" in some ways.

Mark G, Monday, 14 January 2013 11:27 (thirteen years ago)

Bish Bosch is an easier listen, in all. There's a humorous fourth-wall feeling going on throughout it where the listener gets let in on the whole construction of the composition, which at once draws me in but also stops me feeling completely enveloped by it. Somehow certain elements of The Drift have taken on new meaning in the context of Bish Bosch - the "WHAT'S UP DUCK?" bit was always ludicrous and terrifying, but now I understand Walker's not really doing it with as straight a face as I once thought. There's a very warm, human element to BB that has always been rather guarded throughout his career.

besides Sunny Real Estate (dog latin), Monday, 14 January 2013 11:45 (thirteen years ago)

If you can bear Stuart Maconie then the Radio 6 interview was fun, Scott was in good form

Designated Striver (Tom D.), Monday, 14 January 2013 13:00 (thirteen years ago)

... on good form.

Designated Striver (Tom D.), Monday, 14 January 2013 13:03 (thirteen years ago)

.. under good form.

Mark G, Monday, 14 January 2013 13:29 (thirteen years ago)


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