Does anyone have an excel sheet for tabulating or know a quick way to tabulate results?
― ILM METAL POLL 2012 (New Management), Sunday, 16 December 2012 00:33 (eleven years ago) link
Eh I can probably hook you up. ILXmail me.
― a Christmas .gif for you from (seandalai), Sunday, 16 December 2012 01:24 (eleven years ago) link
Fungicide - Black CarrotDeath Gutz - The Eternal Suicide in TechnicolorCheese of God - VolkBlack Rebecca - CrannyThese - PonyoDistillation of Erik - Criminal RecordingsSpunkmeyer - VissusPieg - CrackShepreth Wildlife Park - CapybaraMonarch - OmensFucked 4 Lyfe - Bedroom PrisonBlur - Parklife
― glumdalclitch, Sunday, 16 December 2012 01:38 (eleven years ago) link
That would be grand. Webmailed you seandalai.
― ILM METAL POLL 2012 (New Management), Sunday, 16 December 2012 12:38 (eleven years ago) link
Bong - Mana-Yood-SushaiCandlemass - Psalms for the DeadDragged Into Sunlight - WidowmakerEa - EaEarthen Grave - Earthen GraveEhnahre - Old EarthHour of 13 - 333Lento - Anxiety Despair LanguishNadja - DagdrømPale Divine - Painted Windows BlackPilgrim - Misery WizardProfetus - ...To Open the Passages in DuskSeremonia - SeremoniaWindhand - WindhandWitchrist - The Grand TormentorWorship - Terranean Wake
― Frobisher the (Viceroy), Sunday, 16 December 2012 17:39 (eleven years ago) link
mordy and frobisher the viceroy both have noms left as they nominated tracks that were in the Decibel and Kerrang lists. Are there any other metal publications with a list anyone thinks would be worth adding?
― ILM METAL POLL 2012 (New Management), Sunday, 16 December 2012 18:41 (eleven years ago) link
Thanks for doing this. I don't think, however, that limiting ballots to 20 somehow increases quality. It'll simply exclude more interesting choices from making the top 100, making the results more predictable. I'd like to think part of the point of our ILM polls is to show that there are definitely more than 20 quality metal albums every year. Just my HO, I am grateful that someone could step up and do this.― Fastnbulbous,
― Fastnbulbous,
That is the way the big proper EOY poll works so I am following that successful template and also there will not be anywhere near a top 100 rollout. Quality not Quantity is my motto. I was thinking of having ballots with a max of 10 with no minimum which P&J uses. But I may change that to 15 or even 20 when time comes to vote.
― ILM METAL POLL 2012 (New Management), Sunday, 16 December 2012 18:48 (eleven years ago) link
DON'T START BITCHING ABOUT HOW THIS IS BEING DONE. All the complaints and crying is why others threw in the towel in the fist place. If you wanted done a certain way, you should've done it yourself. Let em do it how they want and be grateful its even being done at all..
― SeanWayne, Sunday, 16 December 2012 18:55 (eleven years ago) link
Listen, there's a difference between bitching and calmly stating your opinion as FNB has done. As long as people are considerate, I don't see why they shouldn't be able to voice their thoughts?
― Bound by Habitrails (J3ff T.), Sunday, 16 December 2012 20:28 (eleven years ago) link
Its everyones' opinions that made people fold on it in the first place.
― SeanWayne, Sunday, 16 December 2012 20:48 (eleven years ago) link
But you're right, FNB did graciously state his opinion, but I can see it turning for the worse as others pile on..
― SeanWayne, Sunday, 16 December 2012 20:49 (eleven years ago) link
I'm with SeanWayne - no complaints about rules, formats, etc. should be tolerated from anyone. They're all stated up top and they fucking stand. If you don't like them, don't participate - end of story.
― 誤訳侮辱, Sunday, 16 December 2012 21:27 (eleven years ago) link
FNB wasn't rude. Everyone can have their say; but they don't have the final say. AG's rules caused too many arguments. I feel his poll was too large and and too many rules and tbqh elitist and obsessed with cool and tried too hard to pimp underground metal which most people were not interested at the expense of 'popular metal'. Hence all the arguments. Afaiac its all metal and should be free to be nominated but smaller nominations also means only the best will be nominated not 3000 albums 1 person got sent by pr men.The poll from now on is to simply highlight the crème de la crème of 2012 Metal releases. There are not 100 releases that match that. There is not 50 either. One could argue there's barely a handful of releases a year that are truly great. 20 votes is more than enough and I am seriously considering 10 votes like P&J as if its good enough for them (It shall not be more than 20). Voting should not be something you labor over trying to fulfill minimum quotas. More will vote if we have a smaller nominations pool and smaller ballot and the countdown will be much more exciting with a far smaller rollout. After all the full results will still be posted at the en for those who are inclined to check out lower reaches. There is a good reason albums don't get lots of votes so why waste time on them?Many argued for this and its time to show how much better it will be. Would be mucho healthier if albums were discussed than rules as the rules wont be changed.
― ILM METAL POLL 2012 (New Management), Sunday, 16 December 2012 22:21 (eleven years ago) link
Don't think any of these are duplicates, but I apologize if I missed any while searching. (Also, feel free to disqualify Devil's Blood if you want, but it came out in the U.S. in 2012. It's not like I really love it that much anyway, so no great loss if it doesn't make the cut.)
Crazy Lixx - Riot AvenueUlver - Childhood’s EndHonky - 421Skånska Mord - Paths To CharonTygers of Pan Tang - AmbushBullet - Full PullHellwell - Beyond The Boundaries Of SinAltar Of Oblivion - Grand Gesture Of DefianceLarman Clamor - FrogsPharaoh - Bury The Light3 Inches Of Blood- Long Live Heavy MetalBible Of The Devil - For The Love Of Thugs & Fools45 Grave - Pick Your PoisonSpiders - Flash PointCoven - Worship New GodsMekong Delta- IntersectionsThunderkraft- TotentanzTreponem Pal - Survival Sounds El Doom & The Born Electric – El Doom & The Born ElectricHuinca – Sic Semper TyrannisThe Devil’s Blood – The Thousandfold EpicentreSun Gods In Exile – Thanks For The Silver
― xhuxk, Sunday, 16 December 2012 22:23 (eleven years ago) link
Are we doing reissues? Because I think that Coven record is one, as great as it is.
― Bound by Habitrails (J3ff T.), Sunday, 16 December 2012 22:25 (eleven years ago) link
It sort of is, if super limited vinyl private pressings in 1987 count as initial issues. (Pagan Altar, which Mordy nominated above, is at least sort of one too, right? Recorded 1978.) Seems like a grey area to me, but disqualify if necessary.
― xhuxk, Sunday, 16 December 2012 22:29 (eleven years ago) link
Ancestors - In Dreams and TimeGoddess - DiscoveryKowloon Walled City - Container ShipsMenace Ruine - Alight In AshesRAM - DeathSula Bassana - Dark DaysTigon - Infinite TeethTweak Bird - Under Cover Crops
― EZ Snappin, Sunday, 16 December 2012 22:37 (eleven years ago) link
USA release in 2012 is fine. No problem with EP's,compilations and reissues that nobody had heard of at the time seem fine with me. Nobody is forced to vote for them if they disagree.
― ILM METAL POLL 2012 (New Management), Sunday, 16 December 2012 22:43 (eleven years ago) link
Another one I wasn't sure about, and held off on nominating, was
Sleep - Dopesmoker
maybe more questionable 'new release' than pagan altar or coven...
― Mordy, Sunday, 16 December 2012 22:51 (eleven years ago) link
I said I was against veto-ing nominations and voting would sort these matters out but I think dopesmoker is going too far
― ILM METAL POLL 2012 (New Management), Monday, 17 December 2012 02:23 (eleven years ago) link
good call
― SeanWayne, Monday, 17 December 2012 03:09 (eleven years ago) link
This is a big blow to the whole Weedian community...
― Frobisher the (Viceroy), Monday, 17 December 2012 03:12 (eleven years ago) link
I am sure they can process it
― ILM METAL POLL 2012 (New Management), Monday, 17 December 2012 14:10 (eleven years ago) link
Oh I had an idea - can we include the StonerHive top 20 in the nominations, it's countdown will end the same day as nominations here end. Obviously things will already be nominated that are on it, but can you include the albums on it that aren't already nommed? Thank you for your consideration on this matter, New Management.
― Frobisher the (Viceroy), Monday, 17 December 2012 17:13 (eleven years ago) link
http://stonerhive.blogspot.com/
― Frobisher the (Viceroy), Monday, 17 December 2012 17:14 (eleven years ago) link
Only if some here have voted in it. if so post the full results once its done and I shall add anything not already nominated. Does anyone have the Terrorizer or Revolver lists?
― ILM METAL POLL 2012 (New Management), Monday, 17 December 2012 17:18 (eleven years ago) link
Everyone happy with just doing a maximum of 10 votes like with Pazz & Jop? Makes it far easier to knock up a list and everyone will only vote the very best rather than 50 albums they heard once.
― ILM METAL POLL 2012 (New Management), Monday, 17 December 2012 18:05 (eleven years ago) link
I'd much rather list more -- like somebody else said above, more votes makes these polls more interesting, not less, and I've heard my favorite 30 albums this year way more than once -- but then again I'm not the one doing the tabulating. So I can live it.
― xhuxk, Monday, 17 December 2012 18:20 (eleven years ago) link
15 or 20 then as anymore would dilute the quality imo. The poll is to decide this years favorite metal albums on ILM. I.e. voting for albums you already know and rate highly.
― ILM METAL POLL 2012 (New Management), Monday, 17 December 2012 18:22 (eleven years ago) link
15 or 20 imo. 10 is too few. 20 seems like a good number, but it wouldn't kill me to do 15.
― Mordy, Monday, 17 December 2012 18:24 (eleven years ago) link
Well I voted in the Stonerhive list and I think a few other may have (Sean?)
Personally I think 10 votes is way too small but I guess this new era of metal polling has different purposes and I can understand that.
― Frobisher the (Viceroy), Monday, 17 December 2012 18:25 (eleven years ago) link
OK unless there is lots of complaints about wanting less I will go for min of 1 album max 20 votes.
No fuss no muss.
― ILM METAL POLL 2012 (New Management), Monday, 17 December 2012 18:28 (eleven years ago) link
Sounds good to me!
― Bound by Habitrails (J3ff T.), Monday, 17 December 2012 19:00 (eleven years ago) link
thanks for taking this on NM. I like to think AG is looking down from heaven, a wry smile on his face. RIP big man!
― Neil S, Monday, 17 December 2012 19:18 (eleven years ago) link
LOL more like spinning in his grave!
― Frobisher the (Viceroy), Monday, 17 December 2012 19:37 (eleven years ago) link
Good call J3ff (multiple xposts):
Astra -The Black Chord
― suing murdoch for libel (Drugs A. Money), Monday, 17 December 2012 19:38 (eleven years ago) link
AG didn't die.. lol!!!
He lurks..
― SeanWayne, Monday, 17 December 2012 20:12 (eleven years ago) link
yeah he's still around, was just kidding.
― Neil S, Monday, 17 December 2012 20:31 (eleven years ago) link
Who shot the Algerian Goalkeeper? CLIFFHANGER
― Bound by Habitrails (J3ff T.), Monday, 17 December 2012 20:44 (eleven years ago) link
AG is most welcome to participate in nominations and voting but the rules are set.
― ILM METAL POLL 2012 (New Management), Tuesday, 18 December 2012 00:21 (eleven years ago) link
You rock for doing this and I'm happy to participate with the rules as they stand.
PS - nice trolling "glumdalclitch."
― Nate Carson, Tuesday, 18 December 2012 00:49 (eleven years ago) link
Krallice - Years Past MatterBosse-de-Nage - IIICar Bomb - w^w^^w^wWizard Rifle - Speak Loud, Say NothingDog Shredder - Brass Tactics EP
― anonanon, Tuesday, 18 December 2012 04:01 (eleven years ago) link
Is trolling normally a feature of metal poll?
― ILM METAL POLL 2012 (New Management), Tuesday, 18 December 2012 15:48 (eleven years ago) link
1) Yes2) They're real records3) I think, from memory, the Wizard Rifle record is good enough to be nommed (though I might be thinking of someone else)
― Troughton-masked Replicant (aldo), Tuesday, 18 December 2012 15:59 (eleven years ago) link
Was talking about the other dude
― ILM METAL POLL 2012 (New Management), Tuesday, 18 December 2012 16:01 (eleven years ago) link
The Wizard Rifle record is great.
― EZ Snappin, Tuesday, 18 December 2012 16:07 (eleven years ago) link
Sorry, I was only skimming this. I don't normally get involved in nomination threads.
― Troughton-masked Replicant (aldo), Tuesday, 18 December 2012 16:18 (eleven years ago) link
So far, there are 247 album nominations which is a lot but do remember Nominations will close at 7pm EST on Friday, December 21st 2012 (that's midnight for the Britishes and 4pm for our friends on the left coast of the US). so if there are more albums you wish to add then you have only a few more days to do so.
― ILM METAL POLL 2012 (New Management), Tuesday, 18 December 2012 17:07 (eleven years ago) link
Eagle Claw - Timing Of The Void
Not sure how I missed that one first time around.
― EZ Snappin, Tuesday, 18 December 2012 17:12 (eleven years ago) link
Seandalai will be doing the counting up votes dealio (thank ye kindly) and has suggested, in his communications with the new management team, ending the voting period a week or so earlier in order to influence some late voters in the proper ILM poll into voting some metal from this list. One assumes that will be A-OK with the majority of y'all? It will mean voting will end on Friday January 4th 2013 with roll-out commencing on the Monday. With voting opening this weekend it will give everyone time before Christmas as well as a few days into the new year for the stragglers. With smaller ballots than the past I do not foresee any problems especially as your favorite albums will have formed over the year. I fail to see how an album heard in nominating period could be a favorite or best of the year like what AG insisted on in previous polls. As we stated earlier the point of the poll is to decide on the BEST hard rock/metal albums of 2012 not a list of every album released. A separate list thread could be started for that.I couldn't start nominations earlier because I had not got a reply from AG initially as the web-mail went to his spam folder. Luckily he found it and got back to us. So thanks to AG for that.
― ILM METAL POLL 2012 (New Management), Tuesday, 18 December 2012 17:32 (eleven years ago) link
I still think we should consider removing Green Day.
― Bound by Habitrails (J3ff T.), Thursday, 20 December 2012 16:28 (eleven years ago) link
Not worth the jail time.
― ILM METAL POLL 2012 (New Management), Thursday, 20 December 2012 17:26 (eleven years ago) link
Shall we open up extra nominations now? Please don't add hundreds of albums from Rate Your Metal just for the sake of it and instead add albums that have not been mentioned that you would vote for or think are important albums that shouldn't be left out.
― ILM METAL POLL 2012 (New Management), Thursday, 20 December 2012 19:48 (eleven years ago) link
Does this count?:
Yamantaka/Sonic Titan - YT/ST
― EveningStar (Sund4r), Thursday, 20 December 2012 21:00 (eleven years ago) link
Not familiar with them at all. Will trust your judgement.
― ILM METAL POLL 2012 (New Management), Thursday, 20 December 2012 21:09 (eleven years ago) link
I might count that. Did Wo Fat get nominated? What about Greenleaf?
― when worlds coincide (Drugs A. Money), Friday, 21 December 2012 05:53 (eleven years ago) link
neither have been nominated so please do
― ILM METAL POLL 2012 (New Management), Friday, 21 December 2012 08:05 (eleven years ago) link
Would it be possible for a mod to change the thread title to alert everyone to the fact that nominations end tonight at 11.59pm UK time? Please!
― NOMINATIONS END TONIGHT 11.59PM (New Management), Friday, 21 December 2012 08:13 (eleven years ago) link
Nile - At the Gate of Sethu
― besides Sunny Real Estate (dog latin), Friday, 21 December 2012 09:42 (eleven years ago) link
always surprised when i see don broco on lists like this. they're local boys.
― besides Sunny Real Estate (dog latin), Friday, 21 December 2012 09:43 (eleven years ago) link
Swans - The SeerScott Walker - Bish BoschOm - Advaitic Songs
― besides Sunny Real Estate (dog latin), Friday, 21 December 2012 10:00 (eleven years ago) link
I want everything in the StonerHive top 20 nominated
― when worlds coincide (Drugs A. Money), Friday, 21 December 2012 15:14 (eleven years ago) link
You had better post the top 20 then
― NOMINATIONS END TONIGHT 11.59PM (New Management), Friday, 21 December 2012 15:16 (eleven years ago) link
Oh and Scott Walker is not being included
if swans is included it should be
― besides Sunny Real Estate (dog latin), Friday, 21 December 2012 15:25 (eleven years ago) link
but fair enough
― besides Sunny Real Estate (dog latin), Friday, 21 December 2012 15:26 (eleven years ago) link
Wo Fat - Black CodeGreenleaf - Nest of Vipers
― when worlds coincide (Drugs A. Money), Friday, 21 December 2012 16:13 (eleven years ago) link
Castle – Blacklands Owl – First Album Elder – Spires BurnAlunah – White Hoarhound Bevar Sea – Bevar SeaBlack Pyramid – II Spirit Descent – Seven Chapters In A MinorOrchid – HereticNe Obliviscaris – Portal Of I Dødsengel – Imperator Golden Void - Golden VoidAt Devil Dirt – Chapter II (Vulgo gratissimus auctor) Horisont – Second AssaultCaptain Crimson – Dancing Madly BackwardsCorsair – Corsair Wight – Through The Woods Into Deep Water Heat – Old SparkyGlowsun – Eternal SeasonIvy Garden Of The Desert – Blood Is LoveSnail – Terminus
― Fastnbulbous, Friday, 21 December 2012 16:53 (eleven years ago) link
was gonna vote but i don't really trust my votes with this "New Management" lurker, i think they should hand the poll back to AG
― ✧ (am0n), Friday, 21 December 2012 17:38 (eleven years ago) link
AG doesn't want to run it. New Management has been gracious enough to take over. Thanks, New Management!
― Mordy, Friday, 21 December 2012 17:50 (eleven years ago) link
rly think AG should reconsider. we don't know anything about this lurker, whole thing seems v shady
― ✧ (am0n), Friday, 21 December 2012 18:00 (eleven years ago) link
I always wondered what happened to The Management since Carnivàle was prematurely canceled.
― Fastnbulbous, Friday, 21 December 2012 18:04 (eleven years ago) link
I can promise that the results will be whatever ✧ (am0n) wants them to be.
― NOMINATIONS END TONIGHT 11.59PM (New Management), Friday, 21 December 2012 18:16 (eleven years ago) link
CLOSED
― NOMINATIONS END TONIGHT 11.59PM (New Management), Saturday, 22 December 2012 00:03 (eleven years ago) link
Not really sure what to do now re voting thread since I'm not manually tabulating now. Voting thread will start hopefully tomorrow or sunday but y'all can start making your lists to have them ready. Here is the full nominations list. Will add lists from Revolver/Terrorizer once they come in unless there is objections.
Thank-you to everyone who nominated. You made things really easy.
― New Management, Saturday, 22 December 2012 01:48 (eleven years ago) link
Voting thread today? My list is almost ready to go...
― Mordy, Sunday, 23 December 2012 21:42 (eleven years ago) link
It'll be up soon.
― a Christmas .gif for you from (seandalai), Sunday, 23 December 2012 22:59 (eleven years ago) link
2012 NON-ELITIST ILM METAL POLL VOTING THREAD (Closes Jan 11th 2013 11:59pm Britishes Time)
― New Management, Monday, 24 December 2012 02:51 (eleven years ago) link