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Yeah, basically I'm hearing the same stuff when I listen to D1 as I do when I hear Aux 88 or Drexciya. Or Arpanet for that matter.

I'd like it to be genuinely techno inspired, as opposed to what drum and bass people think of when they say techy.

Back in the day Benga and Skream got called Croydon techno by grime Djs, thats how I first heard of them.

― Siah Alan (Siah Alan), Sunday, 4 February 2007 02:27 (nineteen years ago)

"plasticman"!!

― vahid (vahid), Sunday, 4 February 2007 02:28 (nineteen years ago)

so do dubstep djs wear army surplus military gear or technical sportswear?

― vahid (vahid), Sunday, 4 February 2007 02:28 (nineteen years ago)

the styling still seems more d+b than detroit techno unfortunately

― vahid (vahid), Sunday, 4 February 2007 02:30 (nineteen years ago)

there was a semi-funny article in mixmag last month about "how to dress and pose for your promo shot" divided by dance genre

the really funny one was the drum and bass one, which advised "make sure your posse photos look like the christmas photo for the residential staff of a maximum security prison. NO SMILING! this is jungle warfare, blud"

― vahid (vahid), Sunday, 4 February 2007 02:32 (nineteen years ago)

I'm more on the Dickies and a hoodie end of things.

I've met Mala and Joe Nice, I don't know, they dress like DJs I guess?

Yeah, unfortunately.

Keep your ears open for Apocalypse by Whiteboi and Kommonazmuk.

Its Tech Itch style dnb at 140.

Pisses me off.

― Siah Alan (Siah Alan), Sunday, 4 February 2007 02:33 (nineteen years ago)

And House was "look like you just had a 3 way w/ 2 models."

Gotta love the stereotypes.

― Siah Alan (Siah Alan), Sunday, 4 February 2007 02:34 (nineteen years ago)

haha yeah!!

only thing i can think for dubstep = dreadlocks is a must

― vahid (vahid), Sunday, 4 February 2007 03:17 (nineteen years ago)

For those complaining that halfstep is too slow you may be happy to know that tracks with swing are enjoying a revival.

Check out TRG and Shonky, and Intoccabile.

To be fair you won't hear half of this shit out at a a dance! (in my experience).

― jimn (jimnaseum), Sunday, 4 February 2007 03:45 (nineteen years ago)

Bunch of them are forum producers giving out 320s now I look at the list again. Not that I'm being critical of you or the mix (which I'll give a listen to when I get up tomorrow)! Just saying, maybe there are swinging tracks, but they're not the mass of what's getting played out.

― jimn (jimnaseum), Sunday, 4 February 2007 03:53 (nineteen years ago)

I think TRG's stuff is starting to get some play, he's got a couple of 12"s coming out as far as I know.

But yeah I'm half a continent away from the nearest dubstep night, and across the world from the UK.

I'm going by 2nd hand testimony here.

― Siah Alan (Siah Alan), Sunday, 4 February 2007 04:14 (nineteen years ago)

Contrary to my own prediction I really dislike DJ Clever's Science Faction mix ("Qawwali" excepted) - dire dour dirgy techstep without the speed as compensation. I guess that's what happens when you can only source tracks from Planet Mu and Hotflush.

I'm pissed that I spent money on it.

― Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Thursday, 8 February 2007 12:40 (nineteen years ago)

dirgestep is the future.

― titchyschneider (titchyschneider), Thursday, 8 February 2007 12:43 (nineteen years ago)

God I hope not.

― Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Thursday, 8 February 2007 13:09 (nineteen years ago)

maybe deadstep. i think its gonna get a lot more variations. dubstep could actually be quite fruitful and spawn a lot of its own microgenres. i wouldnt be surprised.

― titchyschneider (titchyschneider), Thursday, 8 February 2007 13:12 (nineteen years ago)

much better

― a (rslvd), Thursday, 8 February 2007 13:38 (nineteen years ago)

I didn't like that DJ Clever mix much either... I should really give one of those Tempa mixes a go someday!

― about:coffee (fandango), Thursday, 8 February 2007 14:11 (nineteen years ago)

Peverelist - he really really likes minimal techno doesn't he?

― gekoppel (Gekoppel), Thursday, 8 February 2007 15:04 (nineteen years ago)

dunno... to me it sounds more like Convextion/Deep Space-era Model 500 worship (plus a healthy dose of the Hard Wax axis) than any modern day 'minimal'

― a (rslvd), Thursday, 8 February 2007 16:03 (nineteen years ago)

although I'm thinking more in terms of texture than rhythm

― a (rslvd), Thursday, 8 February 2007 16:06 (nineteen years ago)

two weeks pass...

Just saying, maybe there are swinging tracks, but they're not the mass of what's getting played out.
I've kind of already been completely proved wrong about this (saw Benga playing out, listened to a bunch of recent rinse sets). Dirgey halfstep hegemony = false alarm.

― jim, Monday, 26 February 2007 01:29 (nineteen years ago)

peverelist: finally, the sabres of paradise have fanboy imitators!!

― moonship journey to baja, Monday, 26 February 2007 05:33 (nineteen years ago)

Name too much like pervert list for my liking.
Example of some new Skream that is absolutely killing me: http://www.bowzer.net/temp1/skream-oscillator_preview.mp3

― jim, Monday, 26 February 2007 10:24 (nineteen years ago)

dmz second birthday last night was fucking large.

― jim, Monday, 12 March 2007 01:06 (nineteen years ago)

Fuck, this is turning into one of those rolling thread soliloquy things, isn't it?

Blackdown was right on his Pitchfork column. Joker's Kapsize EP is great. First track "Stuck in the system" is the standout.

JME's Derkhead is also great, I know I'm a little late getting to that but it's true.

Dodo-dodo-doo-doo-doo-doo-dooooo. Benga and Coki - Night is still great.

― jim, Saturday, 24 March 2007 01:01 (nineteen years ago)

"Bury The Bwoy" is really good as is this Skream vs. G-Squad thing.

― Alex in SF, Saturday, 24 March 2007 01:10 (nineteen years ago)

Anyone get wind of this "thugstep" thing yet?

― Stevie D, Saturday, 24 March 2007 01:25 (nineteen years ago)

An ill wind!

― jim, Saturday, 24 March 2007 01:25 (nineteen years ago)

Holy shit this Joker EP is great. "GRIMEY PRINCESS"!

― Alex in SF, Saturday, 24 March 2007 02:45 (nineteen years ago)

new Distance cd is great. new MRK-1 cd is almost as good.

fave track at the moment though is Blackout by Moving Ninja.

― koogs, Saturday, 24 March 2007 11:17 (nineteen years ago)

the joker ep is excellent, dubstep that is actually kinda funky and not joyless.

― titchyschneiderMk2, Saturday, 24 March 2007 11:55 (nineteen years ago)

It's not dubstep.

Are you some kind of bot automated to post the biggest amount of shite possible?

― jim, Saturday, 24 March 2007 17:28 (nineteen years ago)

http://www.thegreenhead.com/imgs/robby-the-robot-1.jpg
"Yes I am, Jim".

― jim, Saturday, 24 March 2007 17:30 (nineteen years ago)

three weeks pass...

D1 - Trial run ep is pretty great. The highlight being coincidentally enough the D1, Mind and soul, a fantastic bit of vocal dubstep (vying with Burnin' and Tes la rok's "Round the world girls" for my favourite vocal dubstep tune at the moment) with slinky keys and quite cheesy but cool synth stabs. Vocals on a female r'n'b/chipmunk mode.

― jim, Tuesday, 17 April 2007 21:59 (nineteen years ago)

on another ilx thread someone recomended a mix by christine vacine called "medicate with bass weight". downloaded it and been listening to it for ages. it's so... twinkly. dubstep often seems a bit er "grey" can anyone recomend me more stuff in this vein? prettier, perhaps more psychadelic even.

― acrobat, Tuesday, 17 April 2007 23:52 (nineteen years ago)

at last

while it's nice that people don't have to shell out for individual 12"s anymore to hear this stuff in a proper fidelity, i reckon the music will suffer through being collected on 70+ minute CDs. it's going to make for a much more monotonous listen than throwing on individual sides, which aren't necessarily THAT consistent in quality anyway... (the 'review' comparing this to the rhythm and sound collection cds is well off the mark, they work perfectly)

pity there wasn't room for Skull Disco 6 either; definitely the best release on the label since 3 (Blood On My Hands + etc).

― resolved, Friday, 27 April 2007 20:35 (nineteen years ago)

correct link

― resolved, Friday, 27 April 2007 20:38 (nineteen years ago)

vansan ftw

― Belisarius, Friday, 27 April 2007 20:41 (nineteen years ago)

uh ... doesn't it include "blood on my hands"??

― moonship journey to baja, Friday, 27 April 2007 21:16 (nineteen years ago)

oh wait, i get what you're saying now

― moonship journey to baja, Friday, 27 April 2007 21:17 (nineteen years ago)

http://www.skulldisco.com/node/92

― Alex in SF, Friday, 27 April 2007 21:24 (nineteen years ago)

weird... I thought it hadn't included that either, resolved has to be WELL OTM about this format for Dubstep though.

I guess it's good for collectors and true fanatics but DO NOT ~~WANT~~ HAVE PATIENCE personally. Appreciate it's probably easier to archive stuff this way and keep in print but...

A label mix might have been better maybe?

― fandango, Friday, 27 April 2007 21:29 (nineteen years ago)

yeah sorry for the awkward phrasing up there, I just meant that Skull Disco 6 is easily the best release on the label since the Blood On My Hands EP so it's unfortunate it hasn't been included.

― resolved, Friday, 27 April 2007 21:41 (nineteen years ago)

?? This is a label mix! It's everything the label has released!

― Alex in SF, Friday, 27 April 2007 21:44 (nineteen years ago)

a mixed mix I meant ;-)

― fandango, Friday, 27 April 2007 21:45 (nineteen years ago)

Eh there was an mp3 one of their site a little while ago. I'm sure it's easily findable. I think this release is really cool and I find Skull Disco's stuff eminently listenable for hours on end.

― Alex in SF, Friday, 27 April 2007 21:47 (nineteen years ago)

"one on", ahem.

― Alex in SF, Friday, 27 April 2007 21:47 (nineteen years ago)

or perhaps I'm talking absolute cock as I regularly listen to Blood On My Hands++ 12" on it's lonesome and love it...

(on preview I'm agreeing with that, I loved that mix yeah!)

― fandango, Friday, 27 April 2007 21:49 (nineteen years ago)

is there still talk of a Shackelton album btw?

― fandango, Friday, 27 April 2007 21:50 (nineteen years ago)

I listen to the individual 12"s all the time too, I love the label. maybe I'm just trying to make myself feel better about spending all of that money.

― resolved, Friday, 27 April 2007 22:00 (nineteen years ago)

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