Sade: Classic or Dud?

theres a vinyl 2x lp of a bunch of remixes of sade out there that includes that mad prof. mix. I saw it the other day at a record store

It's OK. Don't spend a fortune on it, tho

heres one from what.cd

sade - best of (the remixes)

01-sade-love_is_stronger_than_pride__mad_professor_mix
02-sade-give_it_up__kenny_larkin_rmx
03-sade-kiss_of_live__deep_mix
04-sade-feel_no_pain__nellie_hooper_mix
05-sade-turn_my_back_on_you__heffs_mix
06-sade-sweetest_taboo__extended_version
07-sade-i_never_thought_id_see_the_day__danny_tenaglias_musk_men_mix
08-sade-by_your_side__ben_watt_mix
09-sade-somebody_already_broke_my_heart__excursions_mix

oh man im listening to that neptunes by your side and yes it is awful - talk abt completely missing the mark uhg

I guess I should have said "Everyone thinks she's classic except for one AMG reviewer who doesn't post here anyway and is more on-the-fence than negative, anyway."

I remember that Kenny Larkin remix of 'Give it Up' as being pretty good?

You're in luck: http://turbocity.blogspot.com/2007/09/best-of-remixessade.html

As much as I love Sade I don't understand how a live album could be worth having. I've been to one of her shows (at Madison Square Garden) and it was mindblowing, but aside from a conga flourish or two, the music itself seemed exactly the same as on record..

OTM. Live DVDs on the other hand...

the live DVDs are very nice. smoke some herb, watch it with your lady. the bomb.

god, 'no ordinary love' is so fucking beautiful.

YOUR LOVE IS KIIIIIIIIIIIIIIING

was she really a junkie?

!!! surely not !!!

no, i was reading some brit music magazine years ago and they more than hinted at her being into that shit

but maybe the british music press does that with any given random artist as easily as the rest of us sneeze when presented with a cotton swab tickling our nose hairs

nice

I know, right?

...

God you really hate it when people do that, don't you, I know, right?

Sade is too excellent to go on.

Also she is way too beautiful to believe.

ABBOTT BE SPEAKING THE TRUTH YO

I know I've made an ass out of myself here before, but Sade is the most attractive woman to have ever made music, ever. Why isn't she my wife? She's the creme de la creme.

bought this guy yesterday at flea market:

http://www.discogs.com/Sade-Couldnt-Love-You-More/release/105842

http://media3.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/photo/2009/11/24/PH2009112403079.jpg

FEB 8th. Stoked.

dope cover imo

wooooahhhhhhhhh

I guess this deserves its own thread, huh?

Sade - Soldier of Love

HOLY SHIT

LOVE SADE

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BvcNtoHwd6Y

this is one of the best sade things ever

that whole live dvd, jeez

hmm i dunno titchy, that youtube sounds pretty cheap

actually best live cut is of 'smooth operator' -- crazy-ass coda

RT @ToureX: People are like afraid to say Sade's album is blah bc she's such an icon and so beloved. But it is.
9:57 AM Feb 19th from TweetDeck

I haven't heard the new one but I thought I'd post this just to show that some folks don't like the new one (or at least one person!)

i think it's just that one guy.

btw the best (and perhaps only good) sade remix is Tattoo (House Mix) (i think that's what it's actually called on the 12" vinyl, though on youtube it's "deep house vocal mix))

nah tb perfecttly honest, I still haven't been won over by this album. Haven't given up on it though

xp multiple ppl on this thread have expressed similar sentiments

i think ppl were expecting a more uptempo jamming joint & instead its pretty ballad-heavy.

I expected better programmed drum machines.

no idea what you dudes are talking about with this drum machine shit

not sure that they're machines but they are quantized all to shit & it's a drag - I dig the record but it's not even in the same league as "lovers rock"

i dont ever remember their drums ever being anything but super-tight & borderline robotic tbh -- like its part of the style

"borderline robotic"? can't really agree man. you can play real tight and still sound engaged, and for that matter you can quantize here and there without having the numbing effect that solider of love's production has. sade's always had a great band, but they've been much, much better served by the production than they are here. not unique to this record obv but since it's by an artist whose records have always felt live, you notice

yes borderline robotic! theyve never really been about letting the rhythms swing. i mean, arent the drums on 'turn my back on you' super-quantized too? i dont get any sense of change between this & their older stuff at all really.

im using the wrong terms -- swing isnt what i mean -- but the precision of the drums doesnt sound like some new thing to me. at all

they don't swing, but they do sound more like they're listening to each other, which is what over-quantizing a track takes away - most of this record you don't get the feeling you're listening to a band, whereas on love deluxe you feel like no matter how many punches & overdubs there are the unit is playing together - which this doesn't sound like, to me

i see what you guys are sayin - i mean, love deluxe, iirc, had a bigger impact on me right off the block than this one. it's quite possible that several of her earlier albums are better than this one. BUT, i liked it a lot the first time i heard it, i have yet to EVER turn it off mid-album (which i'm very very prone to do to almost anything else) even after many many playthroughs, and something tells me it's gonna keep growing on me. lord knows lovers rock was a grower, in the best way possible - i'm kinda only just now realizing how awesome that one is cause i only gave it, like, 5 chances back when it came out. don't know what the hell i was thinking then back then, not loving LR to death!?!?! anyway i suspect this one will hold it's place proudly among the cannon of sade albums, some of which are inevitably better than others, but all of which are unquestionably awesome.

re:quantitization: i think none of the core members of sade (the band) are drummers - thus their growing use of drum machines over the years. therefore, the drums are almost by definition very highly quantized - and as a guy who messes with drum machines and software a lot, i suspect they program, not input by hand, their drum patterns... so almost by definition they're 100% quantized, period, and perhaps have been since love deluxe. any looseness you hear is from the musicians playing around the beat, not the drums themselves. i think this one's just pretty slick, not too lose, lots of takes to get everything perfectly perfect... hell it's their first album in like 10 years and its FUCKING SADE so i think they were really trying to get everything sounding polished...

...what am i trying to say? basically i think their drum machines have always been quantized, it's not any different here from their last 3 albums. and i suspect this album sounds more polished cause they WANTED it to sound more polished, perhaps as a turn-around from the looseness and simpleness of lover's rock...

Lyrics to Baby Father :
We were waiting for the bus
No-one much around but us
Then I see this young boy cut a look at me
I’m stunned
In a daze
He had the whole street set ablaze
It’s only love they say
Makes you feel this way

She liked his eyes she wanted more
The baby gonna have your smile for sure
He saw a lovely girl
Smelling sweet and soapy like fresh air
She saw him looking acted like she didn’t care
That’s how we knew
And so love grew a flower
A flower that is you

this kills me...

is she saying "Your daddy knows you're a fling"? If so, it's a devastating lyric.

awwww seconded

v nice

^^ said in Borat voice

“Start believing in yourself / put the blame on no one else”

https://i.imgur.com/XN7Xrbw.jpeg

I was stressed out and driving my wife’s car. She uses Sirius XM and I was stabbing my finger against the touchscreen, trying to find a station that wasn’t irritating.

I stumbled onto “Your Love is King” and it was like someone lowered my soul into a luxurious bubblebath and I instantly relaxed. Love that band, love that woman.

^

<3

Young Lion so good!

So, nice little mention of the woman herself in this short interview between Tamara Palmer and former Epic exec Dan Beck talking about his new book. Seems a very practical approach here:

I so enjoyed working with Sade! I served in a marketing capacity on her first four albums. She dreaded doing promotional work and interviews. However, she and I worked out a plan that was unique, in that she gave us four weeks of intense promotion in front of each album, and I promised we would not trouble her after that. I told her she would hate those four weeks! She’d laugh and I would tell her it was going to be terrible! She loved the fact that once it was complete, she was free to tour and not have to dread any further promotion. No artist that I know of had fewer expectations from her career. She often did it to be good to her bandmates. Jacob Bernstein did a fabulous NY Times Sunday Magazine piece several years ago that captured the essence of Sade.

(Said NYT piece in question, doubtless linked earlier: https://www.nytimes.com/2017/10/25/style/sade-sade-sade.html )

Whoops, forgot to link the interview itself: https://musicbookclub.substack.com/p/dan-beck-on-working-with-michael